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From: Dale <name-removed@some-ISP.com.au> 
To: webmaster@antichrist.net 
Subject: Quick Question 
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:12:30 +1100 
I have got a question to raise here...
Do You (James) Think that Jesus Existed,
Not necesarily as a God, But as a Person - Like you and Myself
I was just informed that "It is a fact that Jesus Existed, What varies is 
whether he was a God or a Human"
And that all scientists believe he existed in some mannor
what are your opinions?

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From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> 
To: Dale <name-removed@some-ISP.com.au> 
Subject: Re: Quick Question 
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 02:24:05 -0600 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003, you wrote:
> I have got a question to raise here...
> Do You (James) Think that Jesus Existed,
> Not necesarily as a God, But as a Person - Like you and Myself
> I was just informed that "It is a fact that Jesus Existed, What varies is 
> whether he was a God or a Human"
> And that all scientists believe he existed in some mannor
> what are your opinions?

        Not all Scientists think that jesus really existed.  Historians
certainly do not believe jesus existed as a living man.  Everyone knows who
Luke Sywalker is, yet he did not exist as a living man, how is that possible? A
popularized fictional story can _never_ become truth merely through popularity.
 There is no historical mention of a "jesus christ" prior to around 66 AD in
any recorded history.  Given the "miracles" he supposedly performed, you'd have
thought he'd warrant a mention at least somewhere in his own time. Inventing
jesus to have been alive in the past made it easy to make all the biblical
prophecy come true, and all the events seem possible.  Some of the bible is
true history, some of it is lies.  This aids in convincing the slaves.

   Linkname: Historical Jesus or Jesus Myth: The Jesus Puzzle
        URL: http://pages.ca.inter.net/~oblio/home.htm

   Linkname: The Myth of the Historical Veracity of Jesus
        URL: http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html

James
     
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From: Dale <name-removed@some-ISP.com.au> 
To: james@antichrist.net 
Subject: My Views on Religion - Unplugged 
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:36:41 +1100 
Thanks for your Reply on my last Question James, and you did it pretty 
quickly too

A question I would like to know the answer to, But unfortunately nobody 
could answer this, How long before those good old scientists and historians 
are able to PROVE there is no God? I am sick of seeing People going around, 
causing arguments about Religion, when there is no exact proof either way - 
because even after the argument the Atheist is still Atheist, and the 
Christian is still Christian.

I would like to see all Christianity removed from the face of this earth! It 
is only a hindrance to, not only society but also the whole Planet! You got 
those people out there, which accept 'miracles' as Gods work. But I'm sure 
if people stopped accepting it as God's doings, and looked deeper into the 
situation, there would be a scientific explanation - which is probably not 
found yet.

I feel it is a Crime to hold back so many people, having something as 
ridiculous as a religion hinder our Planet. Of which they have to keep 
changing, to suit the scene and not be outdated so you still have those 
little gullible people believing. Manipulation is something Strong, but 
Manipulation In groups has got to be Criminal. They can Hate Hitler for his 
manipulation and killing, Why can't we hate God for exactly the same reason?

I'm Sick of fighting Christians out there, and it having absolutely no 
effect on the infantile mind! Although it is entertaining for me, slowly its 
building up anger and isn't as fun anymore. I have never really realized how 
powerful and evil religions are till I got a Girlfriend that is a strong 
supporter of God, and I checked out your website.

All I want, is the same as you James, Religion to be removed from everyone's 
lives - so everything can progress normally. Without people fighting over 
storybooks and scared to do stuff because of 'the man upstairs' or 'the man 
downstairs' - hence proving the world was flat when religion was started, 
and contradicting themselves again.

I could go on for pages about the contradictions in the Bible, and from what 
people have said to me; and I am shocked just how many people can swallow so 
many lies, and think all of that is normal. Then go and hate Atheists for 
trying to show them the Truth!

The most offensive thing a religious person has said to me was that because 
I am Atheist, I have no Morals. Morals come with believing in God. That not 
only infuriated me, but my fellow Atheist's around me.

How can Mary have a baby without having sex? - I think everyone knows the 
answer to this, She did have sex, She went to a bar, Got drunk and had the 
best time of her life!! If they had the technology back then, they would 
have been able to check that and prove it!

How can heaven be 1500 Miles Cubed? That's pretty small to last the lifetime 
of humans! - By now it would look like one MASS ORGY, Those Christians had 
better believe in Polygamy

You have got to love the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' - This would mean 
all Christians would be dead, right? Let me elaborate, A Christian would 
have to be a vegetarian, because the animal would have to die for that, 
Animals have Souls, because they have character! So any Christian that eats 
Meat, would be going straight to 'hell' as they like to call it. But then, 
Trees have a life cycle too, so you can't kill those, therefore those 
Christians haven't got much to eat, have they? --- How come they haven't 
killed themselves off?
- Thou shalt not kill
   http://a1.nu/christian/vegetarian/nokill.htm

One thing, All Christians believe in adaptation, right? They know that if 
you move to a warmer climate, you will adapt to the surroundings, or you 
have a Panadol pill every day, your immune system will become strong to it 
and they wont work as good as they used to. But hang on, Isn't adaptation a 
part of Evolution? Although adaptation is in that being, wouldn't it pass 
through a bit on the gene pool? - Nobody ever said Evolution was quick!

The leaders of a church, they have great respect don't they? On average, any 
athiest would have more respect than the best priest in the world. They have 
got themselves up such a great name, because they get horny and touch up 
little kids. That's absolutely disgraceful! But why would "God" give someone 
testosterone, and say 'Fight it! I'm going to make gorgeous woman, and you 
can't touch them! To make it harder, I'm gonna give you Testosterone!"

If Christmas is all about Christ - I want an Athiest's Day! That's just a 
personal thought
Thoughts and experiences of a 17 year old Athiest(and very proud of it) from 
Australia

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Editor's Note:   Science has pretty much shown, by efficacy, that religion is grossly ineffective when compared to medicine.  Even the religious wholly abandon their religion without regret, and immerse themselves totally in Science when they are diagnosed with a severe malady.  Only when our current level of Science can do no more, do they return to their sh*t pile, and begin once again to wallow in self-deceit until the moment they die.  The bible claims the earth is flat, has four corners, does not move (is fixed) and is held up on pillars.  Today with satellite imagery we know this is false.  Our spaceships and space station travel freely in "heaven", without accidentally bumping into "gods" or "angels".  ;o)  The idea of a flat earth with hell below is dispelled by the fact our world is a sphere, there is no bottom, all surfaces of a sphere are equally TOP surfaces.  The reason why the religious believe in their god(s) is because their infantile minds are apparently unable to grasp the Scientific concepts we have today.  The world is much too complex for them to understand, they need simple answers, and the bible gives them that.  For those (like you and I) who are able to easily grasp and understand the complex answers, we accept that gods and myth are a product of our collective childhood, and best left in the past.  A parallel to the need for religion here in the USA is the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism), people who wish for a simpler time, a time before cars, jet airplanes, and cell phones.  These people reenact a simple time, of damsels and armor clad warriors, of horseback and kings.  This apparently gives them the same pleasure as church does to the religious and in my eyes is just another form of religion.  Personally, my "fantasy" is the future, I want to live off world, my destiny lies in the stars!