Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:14:02 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Agreement on your opinion

I fully understand your opinion and views on God. Your points of argument
provide the world with a clear and knowledgable view.Good Job. As for the
stupid comments you receive, i belive the inferior doesn't perplex the
superior.
I will gladly await the death of the "supreme" myth and the wide spread
of science.

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:15:57 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: at the end of the day your an american

On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, First Apostle James wrote:
>
> Today they are starving to death, after killing the
> white farmers, burning the hospitals and schools (as well as churches).  The
> short answer is, they deserve what they are about to receive.  :o)

Samantha,

	No further comments?  Granted, this isn't of religious, more of a
political nature, but I'd be curious to know why you think a dog that bites its
masters hand, deserves the bit hand to give it more food?  FYI, I'm in contact
with a number of people who escaped Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) and are now
living in Australia.  If you want to know what the negro is _really_ like, in
case you haven't watched daytime court shows, or seen "Cops", or have been
personally attacked by one of them (I hope that never happens to you) I have a
number of email addresses you can write to, and hear THEIR words.

	Now that the negro in Africa has killed and/or run off all the (white)
people who made their food, and since they have rejected our donations of food
(since we grow only GMO [genetically modified organisms] food here) they can
and WILL starve to death, and NATURE will balance the overpopulation!

	Anyway, I'm done ranting now.  :o)  Do you have any more comments?  I
hope you do because I'd love to know exactly how _you_ feel, Samantha.  :o)

Cheers!
James

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:22:41 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: at the end of the day your an american

On Wed, 05 Feb 2003, First Apostle James wrote:
>
> FYI, I'm in contact
> with a number of people who escaped Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) and are now
> living in Australia.  If you want to know what the negro is _really_ like, in
> case you haven't watched daytime court shows, or seen "Cops", or have been
> personally attacked by one of them (I hope that never happens to you) I have a
> number of email addresses you can write to, and hear THEIR words.

	In my curiosity I looked at the header of your email, to see where in
the world you live.  It turns out I HAVE my answer why you don't dislike the
negro, you don't live in the USA, you live in Sydney Australia!  You don't even
HAVE any african negroes!  :o)  I have a number of friends from Zim that now
live in Sydney, you can meet and speak with personally.

	I know you guys get Jerry Springer, Cops, and those kind of shows, so
you do have a TV view of what _we_ have to live with here in the States EVERY
DAY!  I guess it's easy for you to believe the propaganda that says "all people
are equal", since the brown people in your land are mostly non-violent of
indonesian descent.  Africans I'm afraid are FAR from non-violent!  They were
chosen to be used as slaves because of their beast-like nature.  They commit
the most horrible crimes, and when caught, act like they don't even know that
what they did is wrong.  Genetically, negroes seem to be without morality.

James

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:39:01 EST
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: (no subject)



I think that what you write at your site is the truth. I personally don't
believe in a god. Keep going. Maybe one day everyone will wise up and
join us.



Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:52:20 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Wow!!!





The sad things is... just because you do not believe... does not make the
existence of God untrue... I know that if God can change the hard heart
of pharoh just long enough to set the isaraelites free... he can cause
you to see the truth... your rejection will be the key or acceptance will
be the key... God proves His existence every time you open your eyes and
can see...hear...taste...smell or touch...but the amazing thing is... you
are His creation and he doesn't have to prove anything to you...

I will be praying for your heart to soften to truth!!!  By the way...
where will you go when you die?


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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:28:34 EST
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Your website

I recently discovered your Antichrist website while doing some research
online and I must admit that I am somewhat amused. Not so much over the
site's content, which I find every bit as silly as most man made religious
rhetoric, but as to the reasoning behind why you and your counterparts have
felt compelled to create and maintain such an endeavor.

Do you not realize that by doing so you are guilty of soliciting your views
on unsuspecting individuals who mentally may or may not be able to make that
decission for themselves, something you claim to despise about christianity
(a topic that you and your cohorts seem to know little or nothing about in
the first place)? Better yet, I ask you, what is the next step? Is it your
goal to lead a following of unsuspecting morons into a ritualistic self
inflicted death for your "cause", a.k.a.  your EGO, or is this your ill-fated
attempt to fullfill your fanboy dreams of rubbing elbows with the likes of
Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and the rest of the self proclaimed hollywood
know-it-alls?

In my opinion, which you did not ask for but I'm going to give it to you
anyhow seeing as you will no doubt label me as a hypocrit for emailing my
views to you,  by aligning yourself with your "Anti-Christ" you are guilty of
the same things as the modern Neo-Nazi movement. In their minds, these people
think that by their actions Adolf Hilter would be pleased with them when in
fact nothing is further from the truth. Hilter would simply chew them up,
spit them out, and stomp on them like a piece of used five cent bubble gum
just as soon as he got what he wanted out them. I am certain that if your
"Anti-Christ" is indeed a living, breathing entity OTHER than yourselves, he
has far worse plans for the likes of you.

I assure you that whatever is out there, if anything IS out there, you and
your fiends do not hold the key. Why don't you do society a favor by growing
up and getting a "life"? Better yet, get a CLUE! It is a scientific fact that
your bitterness will only lead to stress which will eventually lead to
unwanted health problems that may take years off of your miserable lives.
Live and let live by minding your own business thus allowing others to make
decissions for themselves. Can I hear an Amen?

Sincerely (if you can believe that),
Joe

Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:39:26 -0800
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Hi


Hi, i saw your page, and its very good, i am an Anti.... my self, well,
the why of this email is that i am interested in hosting your web site,
the only catch will be you would have to put a banner of my page in your
site, my page is sikul.com , its new so i havent finished, the adress
will be something like http://www.sikul.com/~anti/ and you could just
change the ip of the domain name, ok bye, if you are not interested i
will understand

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:10:45 +1100
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: religion




you sound like the typical blowhard misfortune, all you do is talk fear
and punishment! you have nothing tooo offer!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:22:26 -0700
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Read This


It has came to my attention through reading items from your website, that
you are completley false in most of your claims. You remind me of a
freind who I once had, he did everything in his power to refute religon.
Well guess what I dont belive in religon and I am a christian. In fact
religon killed my saviour Jesus Christ, and there is proof that he
exsisted. There is more scintific proof that states he lived than there
is that states that he didnt. First of all I would like to explain your
wild theories of evolution witch are completley absurd. To be true these
theories we would have actually came from a root organism that was
theorized to be formed by organisms made of organic molecules formed from
electricity (The Lighting on Early Earth), and some molcules of nitrous
along with other premitive gases. This can actually be traced to a
certian point but dies later because of impossiblites in it. Also the Big
Bang theory does not make much sense either, let me ask you a q ustion
where did the atoms and material come from have they just always
exsisted. The problems with these theories are that they lack to many
elements.

On the other hand christianty dosnt have many loose ends at all in fact
nearly everything has been proven.

I think you for your time and shall keep you in my prayers. Write me back
with your veiws I would be happy to hear your opion on things.

Paul


The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have
it.


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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:31:51 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: www.Antichrist.net is vision impaired friendly!  :o)  Why aren't ALL
    websites?

> Dennis wrote:
>
> I may make a suggestion,due to my advanced age and failing eye sight,I find
> it difficult to read my screen

Dennis,

	On the index (main) page, in the lower left hand corner you will find
an Icon showing that the website is lynx friendly (friendly to vision impaired).
If you follow that link, you will find out about the Lynx browser, and how you
can get this browser for free.  You can then view most websites in a font size
which YOU pick, and a color scheme that works best for you.  Lynx does not
interpret images nor does it follow font size rules.  I have especially adapted
antichrist dot net to be handicapped enabled (since most handicapped are
atheist by the very nature of their afflictions).  Few people "thank god" for
being born blind, deaf, or crippled.  :o)  Not all websites are blind-enabled,
but Lynx will work OK with most websites out there.  Good luck with it!  :o)

James

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:24:49 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: hahaha after all your site did prove me wrong

> wazstewpo wrote:
>
> i begin by sayin im no christian or nothing and i will probably never be one
> but f*ck ur opinion on god, u r trying to tell me there is no god????thats
> basically saying there is no satan to, sh*t dude course there is. do u have
> an explanation on what created us and what our lives stand for because i
> would be VERY pleased to hear about it
>
> cheers, stew :p

--

> wazstewpo wrote:
>
> listening to beethovens 9th (which dont normally listen 2) and reading this
> site (which i dont normally read) has thrown my perception on christianity
> and god itself. i have even gone into christian chatrooms and asking them
> about the gaps in christianity that you expose, and all they can do is say
> "no matter what the site says, its all lies" and i hear about chrisitans
> goin on this site and you gettin emails from them, those christians say they
> wont even view the site because it is anti-christ, proving the
> differentation between christian societys. i sent an email earlier stating
> that ur site was crap, i take that back, you have thrown me completely.

	Would you care to comment further on this, maybe write a detail of your
experiences, how you felt before, and after, going into great detail?  I'd like
to publish your story on the site, it will be placed at the top of the list on
the main page which receives about 4 thousand visitors per day.

	BTW, Beethoven's Symphony number 9 (Ode to Joy) is my favorite classical
work (even with it's religious references).  ;o)  It transcends all of time, and
has as much raw power today as when it was first performed.  I rank Beethoven
right up there with the other masters such as Metallica and Rammstein.  :o)

Cheers!
James

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:48:20 -0800 (PST)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: an important question.....




i just wanted to know....is it really true that christianity is a made up
religion and there is no such thing as god or jesus christ??? is there a
such thing as Satan?is there a heaven or hell?

im really confused and i'm trying to find out the truth.


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:47:33 -0600
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Woop



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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:15:58 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Please read, I wrote an essay for James

Jason wrote:
>
>      Howdy, My name is Jason and I have created my own opinions.  I have
> noticed that many christians seem to argue pointless questions that seem to
> prove them wrong anyway.
>      I have compiled my findings of the bible, history, and proofs against
> god that I have made into an essay and I would love for y'all to read it,
> please reply to this e-mail.
>                               --thanks

Jason,

	I'd love to read it, and if it's in line with what we have already, do
you want to be an apostle?  Send what you have, I'd love to read it.  :o)

James

Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:34:24 +0000 (GMT)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: re





how could you ignore the presence of God if in your everyday living God
is you? feel his presence as you smell the fragrance of early morning
breeze. the sweetness of fresh air and good smile of people you love and
care. thats precisely the point. life is God coz its about caring
yourself , and your surroundings.

with God inside you, you are nothing - nobody. you will be inexistent.


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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:09:12 -0800 (PST)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: hai




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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:47:41 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Please read, I wrote an essay for James

Hi, James, I guess that I will send it in this e-mail please reply, and
thanks :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
	Okay, questions, questions, questions!  Too many questions, so little
answers, unless you are Christian.  Then you have, of course, an answer for
everything (an answer being singular, not answers) and that is ^ÓIt is the
work of god^Ô, ^Ógod wanted it that way^Ô, or something of the like.  I have
created this essay to sum up my facts and have created a list of the proofs
of no god.

1. Throughout history there have been catastrophic events (some nearly
destroying Earth itself) and horrid plagues such as the Black Death in the
early 1300^Òs.  Many people were lined up to say that they had disfavored
god, but if ^Ógod disfavored^Ô someone today, then it would quickly be
eliminated.  That would make the will of scientists and medical doctors
more potent than the will of ^Ógod^Ô.  The will of ^Ógod^Ô had supposedly
created the Earth and, for that matter, the universe.  With our power
(above the power of ^Ógod^Ô) we are not able to create matter.  When put
together these two pieces do not fit together^×that is because they are
pieces from different puzzles.  One would reasonably assume that the
puzzles, being opposites, are ^Ótruth^Ô and ^Ófallacy^Ô.  We know of our
science and therefore that only leaves one choice left for ^Ófallacy^Ô.

2. According to the bible, god will punish satan at the end of time.
Meanwhile, we are here on Earth being tempted by satan and god tells us to
believe in him or we will suffer.  God also tells us that he is loving and
kind.  If he were so loving and kind, why would he just let us sit here to
possibly be punished?  He should smite the devil now if he were so holy
and righteous.  For example, let us say that you had a bunch of fish and
you loved your fish with all of your heart.  One day, a cat of yours that
you used to like (but don^Òt any more because it tried to kill you) is at
the top of the tank and catching your fish to eat, do you sit back and
say, ^ÓI love you fish, I hope you don^Òt get eaten^Ô and ^ÓIsn^Òt that
too bad, I am going to run some errands and be back in a couple of hours.
When I get back, I will kill the cat and flush all of you that will be
dead down the toilet.^Ô or do you take the cat away in the first place?
Notice that ^Ógod^Ô has taken the malicious choice that would cost many of
us.  Again, we have not matching.

3. If ^Ógod^Ô existed, why would he only answer some prayers of people and
not others?  The answer is simple, ^Ógod^Ô is prejudice and judgmental.
But wait, that is against the bible (even though it says that god loves
everyone, it also says that he hated people that are gay)!  Again, more
miss matching. Then, why do some people seem to be healed just by praying?
Another easy answer.  This is due to a natural phenomenon called the
^Óplacebo effect^Ô. The placebo is nothing more than a sugar-pill, as
religion is a sugar-pill to our minds.  Placebos are used in clinical
trials and the concept is simple and easy enough to understand.  Let^Òs
say that a doctor is testing out the new drug, Godisgreat.  Godisgreat is
supposed to help people who suffer from the flu.  He takes 50 people who
have the flu and gives them Godisgreat.  The doctor then takes another 50
and gives them a placebo that looks the same (but it is just sugar) and
tells them that it is Godisgreat. He checks back on them and everyone
seems to be doing better (he checks to see if there is any difference
between the people who actually did get the medicine and those who got the
placebo) and on top of that, everyone is sure that they got the ^Óreal
pill^Ô.  This would prove that Godisgreat does not work (as it has the
same effect as the placebo).  The power behind the placebo is that you
think that you have taken something that will cure it, so your body
produces more white blood cells and they seem to have more efficiency.
That is the help of praying.  It also works with tests, if you think that
you will do better, usually you will do better.

4. The bible tells of people living for thousands of years because of
^Ógod^Ô. I don^Òt know how god could make free radicals (which is the
cause of us aging) and make it affect us differently.  Oh, wait, I
forgot!!!  ^ÓGod^Ô can because he is ^Ógod^Ô which means that he can do
anything, including breaking the laws of physics.  The bible tells of
things happening instantly, faster than the speed of light, and yet that
would mean that it would be propelled into infinite speed.  Having
infinite speed means that you are everywhere at once.  Being everywhere at
once means that ^Ógod^Ô has destroyed the universe.

I bet you didn^Òt know that you were destroyed, did you? These are only 4
of my many proofs against ^Ógod^Ô though they could be limitless.  The
next portion of this essay will be devoted to my findings and beliefs of
the creation of the bible and how it became more popular than Osirus,
Thor, or Zeus.  Following that will be explained the reasons that the
religion endures and is so strong in this country. Back in the beginning,
before the bible, out of C.A., back to B.C., however you want to put it,
the people had foundations of language (but it wasn^Òt until about two
thousand five hundred years ago that we had written language).  Being
this, they relayed major historical events down by telling it to their
children and friends.  Imagine a game of telephone^Åfor a thousand years.
Also in this beginning they could not answer questions that are so simple
to us, such as causes for disease, earthquakes, floods, weather, etc.
and so they reasoned that there must be some ^Óthing^Ô, some ^Óbeing^Ô
that wanted it to be so.  This was not fully thought out (as was the world
being flat, I mean, where would the water come from if it all just keeps
falling off in an endless waterfall), but it provided the relief needed
for their curiosity, which is the key point there.

	Written language came along, this was the true birth of the bible.
Stories such as ^ÓNoah^Òs Arc^Ô and ^ÓThe Plagues of Egypt^Ô were recorded
and blown incredibly out of proportion (though there is documented proof
of the flood and the man who attempted to save some animals).  Smart
leaders of these people could use this to their advantage to keep the
human race from extinction (which they though was imminent) and get them
to obey their code of laws.  This was the bringing of the ten
commandments.  The bible also goes into detail about how to redeem
yourself if you break one of these commandments (I read about these first
in California).  The redemptions range from sacrificing animals to (if you
dare to commit adultery or have sex before marriage) having to be taken
outside the town, be tied up, and have stones thrown at you until you die.
This kept many people out of trouble and made life for the leaders easier.
Also in the ten commandments were the rules for worshiping god.  If anyone
dared to question the leaders, it was blasphemy and all competition was
eliminated ^Óby the will of god^Ô.

	Time went by and people questioned religious leaders on subjects
such as the world being flat and the Earth not being the center of
rotation for the universe.  Such people could have discovered things that
would make our daily life better, but instead were beheaded for blasphemy.
This is how the hold of religion began to form.

	Now to King James.  James learned from the past (as obviously
religious people can^Òt) and used the bible to control all of his
subjects.  The bible was to be made flowery and almost beyond
understanding so that the peasants that could read could not grasp the
entire concepts, which left the king and nobles to fill in the blanks.
Many of the bibles today are of the King James Version.

	Now we move on to Jesus.  That began with ^ÓVirgin Mary^Ô (which,
it is scientifically impossible to receive the Y chromosome needed for a
baby without a man involved) who had sex before marriage and,
consequently, had a child.  She claimed that it was a child of god, and he
grew up hearing and thinking that.  It is public knowledge that repetition
makes one believe (as demonstrated in the ^Óreeducation camps^Ô of the
Soviet Union, and so he believed as much as anyone that he was the son of
god.  It is factual knowledge that the tomb of Jesus was decided upon and
was guarded by the Romans.  Due to their religious beliefs (inherited from
the Greek) they did not keep the body in there, but instead, desecrated it
so that t could not reach an afterlife.  This became known as how Jesus
rose from the dead.  As for the documented sightings of Jesus after that,
well, do you believe the sightings of Elvis?  Unfortunately, most people
can^Òt reason and they used Christianity as a substitute to actual
knowledge application.

	As time passed, it became stronger and stronger, which leads us to
the present.  Why do people believe in Christianity, despite of our
technology and such?  That is an easy question with a lot of answers.
One is practically obvious due to one of my earlier revelations, Jesus.
Children are brought up with when they ask questions, the answer involves
god.  When children are small, that is the best time (as that is the most
crucial stage in the formation of the brain) to get them to believe
something.  It is my personal belief that a person should wait until the
age of 18 or something to adopt a religion because so many people take it
so seriously and you should b e able to reason fully and have knowledge
about a subject before making a life-altering decision on it.  That, I
bet, would produce more atheists.  Another reason that it is embraced is
because people like fairy tale endings.  Many persons want people that
they dislike to be punished in someway and Christianity feeds that belief.
They think that as they will be eternally rewarded after death, the other
person is forever in pain and suffering (what a good person to wish that
on others).  Another reason is the same as earlier as well, people still
are primitive enough to label all of their unanswered questions with an
answer like ^ÓGod wanted it that way^Ô and it makes them feel good having
their questions ^Óanswered^Ô.  Yet another reason for its steadfast hold
is because of out completely imperfect world in which we dwell.  I was in
a religious debate the other night with my father and I don^Òt know how he
was trying to make his point (because he is a respectfully intelligent
man) but I will use his great example in my essay since it develops his
opposing point well.  Let^Òs say that there is this guy who was laid off
and had several children to attend to and couldn^Òt afford his mortgage.
This literally drives some people insane.  But if this same person
believed in god, and prayed and gave his heart to Christ and knew that he
had only to endure this to gain entrance to paradise and a lot of other
ands.  This overall would give him an improved attitude and he would be
more positive.  His positivistic attitude would give him a ^Ónever give
up^Ô attitude, which would tremendously help him on job searches.  His
overall I-am-a-good-person attitude would give him a higher chance for a
job, and then slowly but steadily he would begin a steady job and get back
up on his feet.  He would get the story around and everybody would be
convinced that his love for Christ got him back up again, and indeed it
would have, but what my father did not grasp was the fact that that
doesn^Òt mean that there was a Christ or even a god, it is again the
placebo effect in disguise.  Now, I will move to my next point.

	Many people wonder why god never answers them, this is simple.
God is to busy in the prisons! Hahahaha!!!!!  This actually does have a
point to it. Christianity is spread much by (surprise, surprise) inmates
in jails or other confined places.  This has another logical reason.  In
ail, you have a lot of time on your hands, but little to do.  You could
read a book, but it must be long enough.  Lo-and-behold!  There sits ye
bible, thousands of pages of nonsense!  After reading it for a year^Åor
two^Åor three^Åthe ^Óreeducation^Ô comes back into play and so many of
them claim to have found god.  This is more spreading.  I now move on to
my conclusion.

	Religion is a powerful tool, a revival for the weary, a crutch for
the crippled, ^Óthe opium of the masses^Ô, and is still utilized well by
religious leaders (donate to our causes) worldwide.  In my opinion,
Religion is sometimes a wondrous thing, hope for the hopeless, friend for
the friendless, and a solid way of thinking for the stupid.  Back on the
stupidity of people, have turned it around and made religion something
that we are all better without.  In one word, ^ÓCrusades^Ô, in two words,
^ÓThe Holocaust^Ô, in three words, ^ÓBig Bad Terrorism^Ô, you should get
my meaning by now, so I end with etcetera...  Religion is much like
nuclear power (Einstein made everyone promise not to use it to harm
anyone, but people are liars) and can be used for good or for bad.

The End.

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:10:13 -0600
To: webmaster@antichrist.net


"I too _try_ really hard to be a good
person, even tho I'm not trying to win favors with some god or gods.  I
strive
to be a decent person because it's the RIGHT thing to do!"

James - First Apostle to David, the Antichrist


James,

I just have a couple of questions about your beliefs and comments.

First of all - Since you dont believe in God, I assume you dont believe in
Heaven or Hell, right? So if you dont believe in Heaven or Hell, then what
do you believe will happen and where will you go when you die?

Second - If the choices you make in life aren't going to matter when you
die,(unlike Christians who believe that when you die all that matters is did
you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour or not, and you will be
judged for your sins) then why do you try to be a "good person" if there
will be no judgement when you die? Do you strive to be a good person because
thats what everyone else does or thats what the world says your suppose to
do? If so then your just following what everyone else does, and I thought
you said to think for yourself?


"I cant believe in something i cant see." - Amyie


I have just one more question to ask you. - Have you ever seen a billion
dollars with your own eyes? Probably not, and neither have I, But just
because you cant see something doesnt mean it doesnt exist. You have to have
faith.

Thanks for your time and I would be interested to see your response's to
those questions.


                          Zach







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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:38:49 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

Zach wrote:
>
> I just have a couple of questions about your beliefs and comments.
>
> First of all - Since you dont believe in God, I assume you dont believe in
> Heaven or Hell, right? So if you dont believe in Heaven or Hell, then what
> do you believe will happen and where will you go when you die?

	You go nowhere, you die.  You cease to live, and begin to decompose.
Usually the most logical and most simple answer is the correct answer.  What
you see, is what you get!  :o)  It's not a happy or pleasurable thing to look
forward to, the christian story (wishful thinking) is much preferred, but no
matter how much you WANT something to be true, does not MAKE it true.

> Second - If the choices you make in life aren't going to matter when you
> die,(unlike Christians who believe that when you die all that matters is did
> you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour or not, and you will be
> judged for your sins) then why do you try to be a "good person" if there
> will be no judgement when you die? Do you strive to be a good person because
> thats what everyone else does or thats what the world says your suppose to
> do? If so then your just following what everyone else does, and I thought
> you said to think for yourself?

	I do what is right for me.  If I were a bad person, I'd have no
friends.  I have dozens of friends!  :o)  However, I am very picky who I allow
to be my friend, but even with such criteria, I have a wide variety of friends.
I don't need to do the right thing out of fear of burning in hell, or
punishment.  Most people probably do need this, but I do not.  I was born with
morality, I instinctively know right from wrong.  It works like this, I don't
do to others anything which I would not like done to me.  That is the filter by
which I govern my actions.

> "I cant believe in something i cant see." - Amyie
>
> I have just one more question to ask you. - Have you ever seen a billion
> dollars with your own eyes? Probably not, and neither have I, But just
> because you cant see something doesnt mean it doesnt exist. You have to have
> faith.

	Circular logic, something I see far too often.

> Thanks for your time and I would be interested to see your response's to
> those questions.

Cheers!
James

Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:14:28 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:


James,


"If I were a bad person, I'd have no friends." - James

So you try to be good in order to get friends. Is that all your living this
life for, "friends"? Whats the point of living life just to have "friends"?


"I don't need to do the right thing out of fear of burning in hell, or
punishment." - James


I dont try to do the right thing because of fear of buring in hell, I do the
right thing because thats what God commanded me to do, and man, your
probably wondering why I would follow God,what has he ever given me? He's
given me life, He's given me everything and anything I have or ever will
have, and He's given me eternal life.


"I instinctively know right from wrong.I do to others anything which I would
not like done to me." - James


Kinda sound like your quoting the Bible there, "Do unto others as you would
have them do unto you." Thats in the Bible, I thought you dont believe in
the Bible?



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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:47:25 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

Zach wrote:
>
> James,
>
> "If I were a bad person, I'd have no friends." - James
>
> So you try to be good in order to get friends. Is that all your living this
> life for, "friends"? Whats the point of living life just to have "friends"?

	I didn't ask to be born, I just was.  Now it's up to me to find what
makes me happy in this life I have (but didn't ask for).  Yes, friends are
important to me, so would a lover, were I to have one.  Alas, I was born with
too high of an IQ, I'm physically OK looking, but mentally ugly to women.
Women prefer their men hunky and dumb.  Women _demand_ that men be less
intelligent than they are, which is normally the case.  This isn't true with me.

	You probably don't understand what it means to be me, because you are
incapable of understanding atheism, thus you lack the acumen.  However, imagine
if you will having a group of friends, about one fourth of my friends would die
for me.  I'm serious, they would give their life for me.  Another half would
risk their lives with me, in an adventure, and another quarter would probably
shoot me in the back if given the chance.  They are all my friends, but some
are far more precious to me than the others.  I find after having wealth,
having friends is far more rewarding and satisfying.  Wealth does not buy
happiness, but without any cost, friends do bring happiness.  :o)

> "I don't need to do the right thing out of fear of burning in hell, or
> punishment." - James
>
> I dont try to do the right thing because of fear of buring in hell, I do the
> right thing because thats what God commanded me to do, and man, your
> probably wondering why I would follow God,what has he ever given me? He's
> given me life, He's given me everything and anything I have or ever will
> have, and He's given me eternal life.

	Your parents gave you life, you should study the fundamentals of
reproduction, I believe you will find creating life is a rather simple process,
even (or especially) stupid people can do it.  :o)

> "I instinctively know right from wrong.I do to others anything which I would
> not like done to me." - James
>
> Kinda sound like your quoting the Bible there, "Do unto others as you would
> have them do unto you." Thats in the Bible, I thought you dont believe in
> the Bible?
>
> Thumbs Up, Zach

	I believe you are confused.  Don't feel bad, most christians don't even
know what is and what is not part of their own religion.  Apparently, you are
no exception.  Examples are the practice of celebrating christ-mass on December
25, which is in reality a pagan ritual.  Taking of an evergreen tree into the
home is pagan, and Easter is also pagan, based upon pagan fertility rights.
Back to the point, what I was "kinda quoting" was the "Golden Rule", which is
not a part of the christian bible.  The purported original author of the "Golden
Rule" was the rabbi Hillel, however I have not spent much time verifying this.

	Out of curiosity I looked up the passage in the Talmud (Bavli Shabbat
31a) and have confirmed that it is not of christian, but of jewish origin.
This of course is not the _original_ source, a little investigation proved that
it originated from the greeks, and from there passed over into jewish writings
in the Hellenistic period.  So there we show the origins of the Golden Rule.

	In The Histories of Herodotus, Herodotus depicts Maenandrius as telling
the Samians, "It is known that I have sole charge of Polycrates' sceptre and
dominion, and it is in my power to be your ruler.  But, so far as in me lies, I
will not do myself that which I account blameworthy in my neighbor."  This
represents the original incantation of the Golden Rule.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:26:57 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: about those christians

     Howdy, I've been thinking, we (as the intellectuals of our society)
should use Cristianity to control the lower-class just as all of the
previous religous leaders have.  If we do it before the government does,
then we would have supreme power over all, make people want to be smarter
(thus continuing stem cell research) and then they will find out for
themselves that there is no god.  They would be horridly mad at us, true,
but at least we could wipe out Christianity in the whole that way.

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:52:34 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: about those christians

Jason wrote:
>
>      Howdy, I've been thinking, we (as the intellectuals of our society)
> should use Cristianity to control the lower-class just as all of the
> previous religous leaders have.  If we do it before the government does,
> then we would have supreme power over all, make people want to be smarter
> (thus continuing stem cell research) and then they will find out for
> themselves that there is no god.  They would be horridly mad at us, true,
> but at least we could wipe out Christianity in the whole that way.

	Sorry, I disagree.  Just as I would not want anyone else to put a ring
in my nose, or shackles on my legs, I in turn would not do that to anyone else,
regardless how inferior I feel them to be.  I'm a firm believer in using
non-sentient slaves (machines) to make life easier.  I would never enslave a
fellow man, a sub-human, nor any beast.  it's just a morality issue I guess.

	I look at it this way, let's say we go behind their backs and develop
cures for afflictions using stem cells.  Anyone against the research NOW should
NOT be allowed to benefit from the research LATER!  :o)  This, simply put, is
Darwin's Law, survival of the fittest.  Inferior minds should be allowed to die
out, in essence, remove THEMSELVES from the gene pool!

	One thing you have to know, you can't make people smarter, it only
frustrates dumb people when we try.  I've given up on such tasks years ago.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:53:06 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Disturbing.




First off, in response to your "prolific" 14 year old antichrist: there
is no objective, scientific proof to validate your claims that atheism
does indeed improve grammar and "e-mail ettiquitte". Etiquette is what I
assumed he meant, as long as we're being technical that is. The
anti-christ embraces modern rationality and scientific focus rather than
simply making gross generalizations, you degenerate irritator. Your
points are so mundane they disgust me; defending any type of Christian is
heresy.

Enough though. It seems that the individuals that contribute to this site
are misinformed, misdirected, and often times attempting to elevate their
vocabularies and/or ideology to an intellectual level. Unfortunately, as
our friend the 14 year old antichrist clearly exemplifies, they merely
fail.

I don't mean to burn people so ruthlessly, but I am imploring you to
listen to me. If you reply I can reveal a wealth of information that will
not only make your post a more lively one, but also one that has a focal
point of conceptual continuity.

I assume the worst.






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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:34:19 +0000
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Mis guided




Ive never been a devoute christian! Ive been brought up in a fairly
religious backgroud! More so than anyone i Know! I always had everything
imposed onto me! You have to belive in this and that! It never really made
any sense.

Its only now that it is! I know i am no saint, although i am trying far
harder now to better myself religiously, but for someone like you to openly
falsify the bible and christ himself i just feel sorry for you!

i have recently started to examine my beliefs through the wizardry of the
internet! Along with strengthening my belief it has also strengthened my
belief that judgement day is approaching! The possibility of war between the
US and Iraq/ Korea etc is one of the sure steps towards the end.

A bit drastic i'm sure you'd comment! But this has only entered my mind
after researching a certain person named: Maitreya! If your a firm believer
in  the antichrist i urge you to read about him! Follow him and you will get
what you deserve!

Use your for mentioned GOOGLE and type in "Maitreya" "Antichrist" - just
visit a few of these sites but especially

http://eth.faithweb.com/maitreya-1.html

if you have a few moments read this site! This man's opinions and arguements
are very well researched.

After reading his site i have also began seeing Maitreya's photo in strange
places. As propheciesed by his followers he will create a peace. Yesterday
15/2/03 a anti war protest march was held in london! Many banners i saw had
his image on it!

If anything out of this email is going to reach your opinion let it be the
prementioned website! Read it and form your opinions on it!

May god forgive you!

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:47:31 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:



"You probably don't understand what it means to be me, because you are
incapable of understanding atheism." - James


Your right, I dont understand what it means to be you and I probably will
never understand all of the believes of atheism, And you dont understand
what it means to be me. But you know whats different about your religion and
mine, You said I will never be capable of understanding your religion, but
everyone is capable of understanding mine.



"However, imagine if you will having a group of friends, about one fourth of
my friends would die for me.  I'm serious, they would give their life for
me." - James


Your friends WOULD die for you, my friend (Jesus) ALREADY HAS.



"Your parents gave you life, you should study the fundamentals of
reproduction, I believe you will find creating life is a rather simple
process, even (or especially) stupid people can do it." - James


God made the reproduction process, hence he made me. Im curious to hear how
you think life started? How can you explain how we got here? Was it two atom
molecules that just sparked in space and created the world? If so, who made
the atom molecules?


"I believe you are confused.  Don't feel bad, most christians don't even
know what is and what is not part of their own religion.  Apparently, you
are no exception." - James


Actually I do know what is and what is not a part of my religion. And it
seems that you spend more time studying other peoples religions than your
own, kinda makes me think if you really believe in all the stuff you say?



"Examples are the practice of celebrating christ-mass on December
25, which is in reality a pagan ritual.  Taking of an evergreen tree into
the home is pagan." - James


Thats why I have a fake tree, its not really an evergreen. 8)



"And Easter is also pagan, based upon pagan fertility rights."


Actually Easter is based upon Jesus' Resurection.


"Back to the point, what I was "kinda quoting" was the "Golden Rule", which
is not a part of the christian bible." - James


Actually it is part of the Christian Bible, Its found in Matthew 7:12 if you
would like to look it up.


"The purported original author of the "Golden Rule" was the rabbi Hillel,Out
of curiosity I looked up the passage in the Talmud (Bavli Shabbat 31a) and
have confirmed that it is not of christian, but of jewish origin. This of
course is not the _original_ source, a little investigation proved that it
originated from the greeks, and from there passed over into jewish writings
in the Hellenistic period.  So there we show the origins of the Golden
Rule." - James


It doesnt really matter what human founded the golden rule, All that matters
is that God gave it to  humans, hence God founded it.



James, I enjoy hearing your opinions and beliefs and talkng to you, I really
do, And im glad God gave me the privlage to meet you, And I look foward to
further conversations.


                     Zach

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:42:18 -0500
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: From a different christians point of view


Hello,

        My name is Tony. I also have read many of your emails from
different people. I do not have a 'religion'. But I do believe in God.
Anyone who chooses not to believe in God is fine with me. I don't
consider them any different from the next person. It's there life and
they do so what they please. I consider people that are christians and
critisize people with different beliefs need to re-evaluate themselves. I
also have an answer to why God "so causes pain", it's not God. It's man.
Man will always be greedy by nature. Among MANY other things. It's been
like that from the beginning. Anybody must know that. Though there are
many conclusions in which the Bible isn't real, thus there are many
conclusions in there that are true. But I won't get into that unless
anybody wants it. If I had a child that dosn't want to believe in God I
would never critisze him/her for not doing so. Everyone has there CHOICE
to decide for themselves. Many 'chr istians' give bad names to others.
But also antichristians give bad names to others also. Each one (not
saying everyone) will foreverbe in conflict. There will never be peace in
that. All there can be is acceptence in one another. Thats all that can
be done. I do not critisize anyones beliefe. Never have never will. The
only thing I can say is that "we will know when we are gone". We both can
strongly agree on that I'm sure.


           Tony



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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:00:43 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: me again : )

     I guess that  you are right.  But it would be nice to have people stop
telling me that I am going to hell because I play D&D.  Then again it would
be nice if there was a god, but no use in dreaming.  I just find
christianity annoying.  They complain about our games, but I might listen to
them if they actually made any good games (War in Heaven, etc.).  They
complain about music, and most of their songs are horrid (like just saying
"We worship Jesus, his time is now" over and over again).  Anyway, It has
gone past stupidity.  Okay for now. Best wishes!

                                              -Jason

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:19:39 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: howdy...again

     Okay, one more thing.  You may probably know about another annoying
facet of Christianity that must be in ther commandments "Thou shalt make
horrible and crazy websites for thy lunatic GOD" (one example being
thewordofgod.com).  And about the bible again.  And about this loving god of
theirs-I've read Isiah many times due to its sheer funniness.  The loving
god destroying all of these places that he "loves" because they don't
worship him (even though he gave them free will) and then there is the book
of Revelations.  That ust sounds like some acid-trip.  Anyway, bye.

                                         -Jason

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:58:41 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: You need to be saved

James,
I have read some of the posted letters on your site and it seems to me
that there are several
that disagree with you. Let me first say that I am one that disagrees.
Satan has tried for years to discredit God but can not. The Bible
plainly states that God created this earth from nothing and each
individual in it. You ought to
be honored that he included you. Instead you
are ungrateful and are trying to send people to
Hell with you. Yes my friend Hell is a real place
not some figment of your imagination like you
like to imply. Guess what Satan is real too. I
would like to share something with you Satan
sucks. The fact is that the book of Revelations
(yes it is a book in the Bible) and YES IT IS
GOD'S WORD, tells us that Satan will bow down and say Jesus is Lord!
Praise God it
makes me want to shout. The punishment for
you in Hell will be severe if you keep this junk of
cursing my Lord. These little 10 and 12 year old
kids that post on your site that curse the Lord will be put to your
account in front of the King
(Jesus) one day.  Like several others that have
posted on your site I am here to warn you. Jesus still loves you. He
died on the cross for
you. I believe you know that because you do
seem to know of the Bible. Christ did not stay
on that cross neither did death defeat him. He
defeated death when he rose from the grave      just like he promised.
Jesus even went to Hell
and took the keys from that old suck face Satan. All you have to do to
be saved is to ask
Jesus to forgive you of your sin, cleanse your
heart and take you to heaven when you die.
Another thing the apostles were followers of
Jesus not the antichrist so your not a apostle
hate to burst your bubble.
I don't really know why I care I just don't want
to see anyone go to Hell and burn. You probably won't reply and I think
you are a yellow belly punk coward if you don't.
Bottom line GET SAVED BEFORE IT IS ETERNALLY TO LATE.


Father in the name of Jesus I ask the best I know how that you speak to
James's heart.
Lord let him realize that he truly needs you.
Let him have the desire to ask forgiveness
for his sins. Change his heart and life today
in Jesus name Amen.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:03:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

It is me again. I wrote earlier today but you
probably discarded it because you are not a
man but a mouse. I also noticed in some of the posted letters to your
site that some people made mention of the Left Behind Books and
Movies. You would do good to take their advice
and read the book or see the movies.
I will tell you how it ends. First of all the movie
is quite accurate to what will happen. If you will
watch the movie pay close attention to the last
15 minutes. Your antichrist loses. he is defeated. he is the weakest
link    bye bye.
You get the picture. Sure you do. Jesus wins
Satan and his imps lose.
Come to Christ man. Don't be a loser.
I listened to your bull crap at least be man
enough to respond even if it is to cuss me out.
I really do not care if you cuss me because in
the end I am the winner with Jesus.
Satan and the antichrist are LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          satansucks.com

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 04:40:03 +0000 (GMT)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: "Tequila Mockingbird" <marching_ocelot@some-ISP.com>

you wrote:

      I do not publish the _real_ email address of the people that
      write me out of
      common courtesy. You will notice that all email addresses end
      in
      "some-ISP.com" which is a not real domain name. If you
      forward your file copy
      of that email to me, I will then forward it to "Tequila
      Mockingbird" for you.


thanks james.

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:57:42 IST
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: May satan rule for ever

Hi there james
 i am an 19 year old. and i am really mad at that thing we call god. i
have gone over to the side of lucifer. pls can you recomend some satanic
i mean truly satanic websites. i like antichrist.net but i feel that you
guys are a bit too soft hey man where is the satanic prayer. ive made my
own you know. i written our father ........... backwards and bathed it in
blood . the bible which my dad gave me, i dipped it in a pool of my own
blood which i got from cutting a vein. i truly despise and hate than mad
son of a freak "jehovah" if you meet any more god haters please let me
know and send me their mail. well last of all i want to say "Sing hossana
to Lucifer". thanxx devils for reading
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:26:02 +0100
To: james@antichrist.net



Hi James
I've read your discussion with that so-called christian scientist,and have
laughed my head off.what a weirdo.
Looks like he read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe and misinterpreted
the entire idea.
well anyway i really enjoyed reading it.
keep up the good work.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:26:38 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Follow-up and correction.

James W.

	In our previous discussions I stated "My Stanford-Binet score is 188,
four points below the smartest man in the United States".  I've been meaning to
get back to you with the corrected statement.  A little over a week ago I was
having a discussion with a fellow mensan who informed me that I was incorrect
with my figure.  I seem to have remembered the IQ of Chris Langan incorrectly.
I believed it was 192, when in fact it is recorded as 195.  This would correctly
rank _my_ score SEVEN points below his (not four as I had previously stated).

Cheers!
James

Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:58:08 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.


Well, even still you'd have to admit that's still quite an accomplishment, be
it 1 point or 10 pts. :)
                                                              James

--- First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> wrote:
>James W.
>
>	In our previous discussions I stated "My Stanford-Binet score is 188,
>four points below the smartest man in the United States".  I've been meaning to
>get back to you with the corrected statement.  A little over a week ago I was
>having a discussion with a fellow mensan who informed me that I was incorrect
>with my figure.  I seem to have remembered the IQ of Chris Langan incorrectly.
>I believed it was 192, when in fact it is recorded as 195.  This would correctly
>rank _my_ score SEVEN points below his (not four as I had previously stated).
>
>Cheers!
>James

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:03:29 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Unsolicited comments on our discussions.

I make no denial about my being weird or peculiar ;). Being unlike others is
a virtue less appreciated by those who are mainstream, and/or those who cannot
understand how you think and why. Surely as an atheist on a planet where most
people believe in some sort of deity you of all people understand this well.
I have never read the Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe yet. I'll be sure to
pick up a copy though to see what this man is babbling about. ;)
                                                        James


--- First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> wrote:
>Regarding;  http://www.antichrist.net/jamesw.html
>
>patrick wrote:
>>
>> Hi James
>> I've read your discussion with that so-called christian scientist,and have
>> laughed my head off.what a weirdo.
>> Looks like he read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe and misinterpreted
>> the entire idea.
>> well anyway i really enjoyed reading it.
>> keep up the good work.
>> greetings from Patrick,the Netherlands.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:12:18 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.

James W wrote:
>
> --- First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> wrote:
> >A little over a week ago I was
> >having a discussion with a fellow mensan who informed me that I was incorrect
> >with my figure.
>
> Well, even still you'd have to admit that's still quite an accomplishment,
> be it 1 point or 10 pts. :)

	A high IQ isn't an accomplishment, you don't gain a high IQ from hard
work or through diligence.  You are either born with it, or you are not.  I
think the need for me to clarify the issue as to whether I am 4 or 7 points
behind the "smartest man in the USA" is based upon my need for accuracy.  I am
anal when it comes to being accurate.  In my business, I carry my books to the
penny, and when I am off even by a few cents, I explore _why_ I am off and find
the solution no matter what it takes.  Even if it costs me HOURS of time,
wasted revenue far in excess of the error, I will find and solve the
discrepancy.  This anal need for accuracy has cost me a few relationships, let
me tell you!  However, I wouldn't have it any other way.  ;o)

	However I am often annoyed by my incessant need for accuracy and
detail.  If you look at my paintings, you will see the way I torture myself, in
my lust for absolute perfection.  It's hell to be me, but I can't change what I
am.  :o)  Perfection does have its own rewards, I've never been at fault in an
automobile accident, and I've never had a design flaw on any of my creations.
And when it comes to ART, well, I'll let you be the judge of that.  :o)  Here
is my favorite digital painting which I made of a very cute, and VERY christian
friend of mine named Megan, who used to work for a company I contracted with.

http://[removed].spaceports.com/~[removed]/megan.html

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:36:32 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.



--- First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> wrote:

>A high IQ isn't an accomplishment, you don't gain a high IQ from >hard
>work or through diligence.  You are either born with it, or you are >not.

I believe that to a point. I know that a person can become smarter through
sheer force of will to do better, and to firmly stick to it. However, it is
also true that some people are more naturally able to excel and exceed
standards for excellence when contrasted to others.

>I
>think the need for me to clarify the issue as to whether I am 4 or 7 points
>behind the "smartest man in the USA" is based upon my need for accuracy.  I am
>anal when it comes to being accurate.

I appreciate the fact you are forthcoming as you are accurate.

>In my business, I carry my books to the
>penny, and when I am off even by a few cents, I explore _why_ I am off and find
>the solution no matter what it takes.  Even if it costs me HOURS of time,
>wasted revenue far in excess of the error, I will find and solve the
>discrepancy.  This anal need for accuracy has cost me a few relationships, let
>me tell you!  However, I wouldn't have it any other way.  ;o)

Very few people are aware of the importance of efficiency. It's a unique
quality to insist on determining resolution to an error over the end goal.
Many times, people feel it is sufficient to simply meet the end goal having
made severe errors along the way. When those errors are not needed to justify
those means though, I don't feel they should be made. Many people would
disagree with me on this I'm sure, because they've lived life only to see
results done...not to see results done well. So though it may have cost you a
few relationships, it may have been because those same people did not
understand or fully realize the drive and ambition you exercise when seeking
quality at all costs.

>	However I am often annoyed by my incessant need for accuracy and
>detail.  If you look at my paintings, you will see the way I torture myself, in
>my lust for absolute perfection.  It's hell to be me, but I can't change what I
>am.  :o)

It is possible to be a different type of person if you wanted to, but with
every change comes a serious sacrifice. I don't believe people should be whom
they are not if they can help it. Perfection is good, and an admirable
quality. It shouldn't be a painful process, though...at least one that brings
more grief sometimes than gratification.

>Perfection does have its own rewards, I've never been at fault in an
>automobile accident, and I've never had a design flaw on any of my >creations.

We are similar with our uncanny drive for perfect creation. However, I'll
plead the 5th on the automobile accidents! :">

>And when it comes to ART, well, I'll let you be the judge of that.  :o)  Here
>is my favorite digital painting which I made of a very cute, and VERY christian
>friend of mine named Megan, who used to work for a company I contracted with.
>
>http://[removed].spaceports.com/~[removed]/megan.html
>
>James

Aww, she's adorable! And well done picture too, James. I can tell you put a
lot of time and effort into her painting. I have always been one to appreciate
artistic talent and female beauty, so I give you two thumbs up on this
painting. :) Did you ever date her?
James
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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:05:44 -0800 (PST)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: DONT ERASE! But be willing to hear from the opposition...




James,

I truly understand the way you feel about crazy fanatics e-mailing you,
but I also feel it is your duty to reply to everyone whether it be good
or bad. When you started this so called project of yours, you had to know
that it would cause a small uproar among the christian web community. I
have seen many sites just like antichrist.net, for some reason
though..yours differs from most. Unlike others, you only say you're
atheist but not really a devil worshipper or anything of the kind. You
also say you are a religious person, but I disagree with you there. The
sole basis of religion is faith. Obviously you believe that "if you can't
see it, it's not there." Then how can you say that you're a religious
person when your sole judgement depends on scientific proof? I am a
devout catholic and sometimes have my own doubt about God. But no matter
what happens in my life, I will never stop believing in God. Some people
may think it's stupid to pray to someone not there , and when you think
about it..it sort of is. For a time, I was only a christian because all
my friends were. And I was disgusted when I saw how close they were to
the Lord and that I had never experienced that. But when I did...it was
amazing. At the time, I was lost in a world full of despair and one night
i talked out loud begging God to just answer back..for me just to know
that he was there. Even though no voice came..the answer did. It was as
if a warmth flowed throught my whole body. I felt him watching me, and i
felt how sad he was for the Earth. He had created us and we let him down.
But I knew that I wouldn't be another name on his list of screw ups. You
may think this all sounds stupid, but in the end...faith is what ties you
closer to him. You can see a mirage, but that doesn't mean it's there. As
long as you believe something..it is real (at least to you it is) and I
don't know what I would do if I didn't have my belief in God. He is in my
heart and it's the gre atest feeling. I would rather suffer a christian
than live a sad empty life. E-mail me on your thoughts..i would really
like to hear them.

-Angela


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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:38:18 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Howdy : )

     Howdy, I've been thinking about making an essay on a book published
about the proofs of god and why it dosn't prove anything.  What do you
think?

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:56:29 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Mis guided

edward wrote:
>
> Its only now that it is! I know i am no saint, although i am trying far
> harder now to better myself religiously, but for someone like you to openly
> falsify the bible and christ himself i just feel sorry for you!

	But it is false, moreover, it's an ancient middle-eastern religion that
we white Americans have no business believing in.  Most of us descended from
pagans, and paganism should be our proper birthright.

> i have recently started to examine my beliefs through the wizardry of the
> internet! Along with strengthening my belief it has also strengthened my
> belief that judgement day is approaching! The possibility of war between the
> US and Iraq/ Korea etc is one of the sure steps towards the end.

	I remember back in 1969 everyone was saying that as soon as man steps
foot on the moon, God would destroy us with his wrath.  They were predicting
doomsday back then, with the Vietnam war and all.  It's all just the same old
thing, just a different day, a different age.

	Too bad you weren't on the Internet back when I first began.  It was
called Darpanet, then Arpanet, then the Arpanet, Bitnet, and Tymnet combined to
form the Internet.  This was 11 years before Al Gore claims to have "taken the
initiative and invented the Internet".  ;o)  I've been here since the Arpanet
days, and I can attest that the Internet was ATHEIST prior to the dot com
invasion which started around 1993 or so.  I do long for those days again.

> A bit drastic i'm sure you'd comment! But this has only entered my mind
> after researching a certain person named: Maitreya! If your a firm believer
> in  the antichrist i urge you to read about him! Follow him and you will get
> what you deserve!

	Maiteya is another fictional character.

> After reading his site i have also began seeing Maitreya's photo in strange
> places. As propheciesed by his followers he will create a peace.

	People see what they want to see, study psychology sometime to see how
easy it is to insert thoughts into peoples psyche, or even YOUR OWN!

> May god forgive you!

	There is no such thing as god(s).  For you to be a modern person, using
a computer and a worldwide network for communications and STILL believe in
mystic forces, gods and demons is just silly!  GROW UP!  :o)

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:11:14 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

Zach wrote:
>
> "You probably don't understand what it means to be me, because you are
> incapable of understanding atheism." - James
>
> Your right, I dont understand what it means to be you and I probably will
> never understand all of the believes of atheism, And you dont understand
> what it means to be me. But you know whats different about your religion and
> mine, You said I will never be capable of understanding your religion, but
> everyone is capable of understanding mine.

	Wow, you insulted yourself, was that intentional?

> "However, imagine if you will having a group of friends, about one fourth of
> my friends would die for me.  I'm serious, they would give their life for
> me." - James
>
> Your friends WOULD die for you, my friend (Jesus) ALREADY HAS.

	I'm not saying it really happened, but as the story goes, he was picked
up by the police, tried and convicted of a crime, and punished by crucifixion.
He didn't die for _me_, he died because he broke caesar's law.  This is not an
admission that I agree with caesar's laws however.

> "Your parents gave you life, you should study the fundamentals of
> reproduction, I believe you will find creating life is a rather simple
> process, even (or especially) stupid people can do it." - James
>
> God made the reproduction process, hence he made me. Im curious to hear how
> you think life started?

	My parents copulated, and I was formed in utero.  Same as you.

> How can you explain how we got here?

	I just did.

> Was it two atom
> molecules that just sparked in space and created the world? If so, who made
> the atom molecules?

	Molecules are made up of atoms, but your words show that you don't
understand Scientific concepts so this is why you believe in god(s).  Were you
mentally competent enough to understand what I have explained over and over,
in many places on this website, you would also be an atheist.

> "I believe you are confused.  Don't feel bad, most christians don't even
> know what is and what is not part of their own religion.  Apparently, you
> are no exception." - James
>
> Actually I do know what is and what is not a part of my religion. And it
> seems that you spend more time studying other peoples religions than your
> own, kinda makes me think if you really believe in all the stuff you say?

	If you only study one religion, you will believe it to be the only one.
When you study ALL religions, you will come to the conclusion that they are all
equally worthless.  I think everyone should study all religions, so they can
realize just how silly it is for muslims to want to kill jews, and jews to want
to kill muslims (in the name of god) and so on.

> "Examples are the practice of celebrating christ-mass on December
> 25, which is in reality a pagan ritual.  Taking of an evergreen tree into
> the home is pagan." - James
>
> Thats why I have a fake tree, its not really an evergreen. 8)

	I don't celebrate christ-mass, however I do celebrate Winter Solstice.
I do not use a tree in my celebrations.  ;o)

> "And Easter is also pagan, based upon pagan fertility rights."
>
> Actually Easter is based upon Jesus' Resurection.

	Check your history books, you'll find I'm correct.

> "Back to the point, what I was "kinda quoting" was the "Golden Rule", which
> is not a part of the christian bible." - James
>
> Actually it is part of the Christian Bible, Its found in Matthew 7:12 if you
> would like to look it up.

	It's also in the talmud, and greek and roman texts.  Since the greek
and roman texts predate the bible, obviously it was plagiarized.  ;o)  But then,
the romans wrote the new testament to control their slaves, so that is to be
expected.  Piso wasn't too creative, he'd rather steal older religions than to
build a new one from scratch.  Oh well.  ;o)

> "The purported original author of the "Golden Rule" was the rabbi Hillel,Out
> of curiosity I looked up the passage in the Talmud (Bavli Shabbat 31a) and
> have confirmed that it is not of christian, but of jewish origin. This of
> course is not the _original_ source, a little investigation proved that it
> originated from the greeks, and from there passed over into jewish writings
> in the Hellenistic period.  So there we show the origins of the Golden
> Rule." - James
>
> It doesnt really matter what human founded the golden rule, All that matters
> is that God gave it to  humans, hence God founded it.

	Man gave it to man, get it straight.  :o)

> James, I enjoy hearing your opinions and beliefs and talkng to you, I really
> do, And im glad God gave me the privlage to meet you, And I look foward to
> further conversations.

	Usually religious people get pissed off talking to me.

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:33:35 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

Jeff wrote:
>
> It is me again. I wrote earlier today but you
> probably discarded it because you are not a
> man but a mouse.

	I didn't respond to it because there was nothing of interest in there.
Tossing biblical threats and quoting from the bible is useless.  Imagine of I
was to send you an email quoting from a tabloid newspaper?  Same thing!

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:37:44 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

patrick wrote:
>
> Hi James
> I've read your discussion with that so-called christian scientist,and have
> laughed my head off.what a weirdo.
> Looks like he read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe and misinterpreted
> the entire idea.
> well anyway i really enjoyed reading it.
> keep up the good work.
> greetings from Patrick,the Netherlands.

	Thanks for the friendly email of encouragement, I don't get too many
like this anymore.  :o)  Anyone who is intelligent would get a kick out of that
email, that's for sure.  :o)  What is amazing however, is that theists who call
themselves Scientists have proven over and over again they are not very good
Scientists, and probably not very good mystics either.

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:44:26 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.

James W wrote:
>
> --- First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net> wrote:
>
> >A high IQ isn't an accomplishment, you don't gain a high IQ from >hard
> >work or through diligence.  You are either born with it, or you are >not.
>
> I believe that to a point. I know that a person can become smarter
> through sheer force of will to do better, and to firmly stick to it.
> However, it is also true that some people are more naturally able to
> excel and exceed standards for excellence when contrasted to others.

	True genius is inherited, it is not earned.  However, one must realize
there is a difference between genius and talent.  Anyone can become talented,
but only a genius can achieve without much effort, that which another must work
hard to achieve.  This has caused great animosity between those with talent,
and those with genius.  Animosity, and more accurately, jealousy.  :o)

> >think the need for me to clarify the issue as to whether I am 4 or 7 points
> >behind the "smartest man in the USA" is based upon my need for accuracy.  I am
> >anal when it comes to being accurate.
>
> I appreciate the fact you are forthcoming as you are accurate.

	It just bothers me when I know I've made a mistake.  If you detect any,
please feel free to point them out.  Becoming aware is how one grows.  :o)

> >In my business, I carry my books to the
> >penny, and when I am off even by a few cents, I explore _why_ I am off and find
> >the solution no matter what it takes.
>
> Very few people are aware of the importance of efficiency. It's a
> unique quality to insist on determining resolution to an error over
> the end goal. Many times, people feel it is sufficient to simply meet
> the end goal having made severe errors along the way.

	And catastrophic failures are often the result.  Note the recent loss
of the Columbia (my favorite Space Shuttle).  I have had many employers along
the way who would force me to cut corners and hurry a project to completion.  I
HATED IT!  A recent foreman on a contract used to use the phrase "Done is
done!" to emphasize that he wanted to get done, quality be damned.

> When those
> errors are not needed to justify those means though, I don't feel they
> should be made. Many people would disagree with me on this I'm sure,
> because they've lived life only to see results done...not to see
> results done well. So though it may have cost you a few relationships,
> it may have been because those same people did not understand or fully
> realize the drive and ambition you exercise when seeking quality at
> all costs.

	Pride is a major factor too.  I am very proud to put my name on what I
do, and there are spacecraft that have my name on it, which I am proud to
claim.  Nothing is more satisfying that doing a good job to advance Science.

> >       However I am often annoyed by my incessant need for accuracy and
> >detail.  If you look at my paintings, you will see the way I torture myself, in
> >my lust for absolute perfection.  It's hell to be me, but I can't change what I
> >am.  :o)
>
> It is possible to be a different type of person if you wanted to, but
> with every change comes a serious sacrifice. I don't believe people
> should be whom they are not if they can help it. Perfection is good,
> and an admirable quality. It shouldn't be a painful process,
> though...at least one that brings more grief sometimes than
> gratification.

	I am what I am, I will never change.  All of my ex'es have tried to
change me, but I refused, and left them frustrated and angry.  Love has always
turned to hate.  What they loved most about me, or what they found most
attractive, ultimately became that which they most despised.  [intelligence]

> >Perfection does have its own rewards, I've never been at fault in an
> >automobile accident, and I've never had a design flaw on any of my >creations.
>
> We are similar with our uncanny drive for perfect creation. However,
> I'll plead the 5th on the automobile accidents! :">

	It's easy to be a safe driver, just do exactly what you are taught in
drivers ed.  Go slow!  Look both ways, enter intersections with caution, even
if you have the green light.  I recently avoided a serious accident when I
crept into an intersection, and saw a truck coming too fast to be able to stop.
I came to a stop in the intersection, and he blew through, right in front of me,
yacking away on his cell phone, oblivious to what just transpired.  :o/

	You may not believe this but I never exceed 50 mph on the highway, not
out of fear of higher speeds, but because my transmission isn't geared to do
65.  I measured the optimum RPM of travel (speed versus fuel economy) and 50
mph was the magic speed (2100 RPM).  So that's the speed at which I travel.
Some would probably say I drive like an old lady, and I guess I do!  :o)

> >And when it comes to ART, well, I'll let you be the judge of that.  :o)  Here
> >is my favorite digital painting which I made of a very cute, and VERY christian
> >friend of mine named Megan, who used to work for a company I contracted with.
> >
> >http://[removed].spaceports.com/~[removed]/megan.html
>
> Aww, she's adorable!

	Yes, she is.  I could not be more in love with another person than I am
with Megan.  However, she does have her faults, but the most incredible aspect
of her is that no matter how bad I feel, she ALWAYS and CONSISTENTLY makes me
feel good about myself, and about the world in general.  She is amazing!  :o)

> And well done picture too, James. I can tell you
> put a lot of time and effort into her painting.

	This is not my first rendering, my first was with acrylics which did not
turn out so good.  It's online too, but I'm reluctant to show it to people.

> I have always been one
> to appreciate artistic talent and female beauty, so I give you two
> thumbs up on this painting. :) Did you ever date her?

	Thank you, people can often find common ground with art.  :o)  When I
share with people my art, or my music, they don't think I'm some kind of
satanic demonic devil worshiper (which I'm not anyway, merely an atheist).
However, when the subject turns to religion, the hatred always begins.  :o(

	No, I never dated my pretty little Megan.  I did give her a hug once,
but I didn't let go when she did, in fact I never wanted to let go.  I wished I
could die, right then, so that I wouldn't have to know that feeling, for the
first time in my life, and then have it taken away.  This rather freaked her
out a bit, but she didn't show it.  She never again gave me a hug.  So with
that one expression, and my memories, that's all I have now.  Today I measure
every girl I meet by Megan.  Her perky personality, charming smile, positive
outlook, and bubbly/giggly persona has totally won my heart.  Love is something
you can't quantify, qualify, or even explain.  I have loved so very few, and I
do truly love Megan.  And yes, her eyes really are THAT BLUE!  :o)

James

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:33:25 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: hey




you f*cking suck you f*cking Nazi i hate everything you stand for and i
hate you be carful what you say because people are watching.

                                           signed,

                                                      f*ck you


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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:34:52 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: DONT ERASE! But be willing to hear from the opposition...

Angela wrote:
>

	First let me note that I read everything sent to me, but I only reply
to those worth replying to.  Yours seems to have fit the criteria somewhat.  :o)

> James,
>
> I truly understand the way you feel about crazy fanatics e-mailing you, but
> I also feel it is your duty to reply to everyone whether it be good or bad.

	If you saw all of the letters which I receive, you'd be selective about
replying to them too!  :o/

> When you started this so called project of yours, you had to know that it
> would cause a small uproar among the christian web community. I have seen
> many sites just like antichrist.net, for some reason though..yours differs
> from most. Unlike others, you only say you're atheist but not really a devil
> worshipper or anything of the kind.

	The "devil-ish" appearance is merely an artistic expression.  :o)  The
project began as pre-apocalypse (Y2K) performance art.  We premiered on 6-6-96
and had thoroughly freaked out the radio preachers on shortwave.  :o)  We had
our own weekly radio broadcast each Sunday on WWCR Shortwave!  :o)

> You also say you are a religious person,
> but I disagree with you there. The sole basis of religion is faith.

	The _other_ definition of "religious".  Go back to the james page, and
click on the words in green (links).  Clicking on the word "religious" will
take you to a dictionary page wherein you will find your answer.  :o)

> Obviously you believe that "if you can't see it, it's not there." Then how
> can you say that you're a religious person when your sole judgement depends
> on scientific proof?

	One can be religious, and not be a christian, correct?  Jews and
muslims can be VERY religious.  So can Scientists, the best ones always are,
just as the best ones are also always atheist.

> I am a devout catholic and sometimes have my own doubt
> about God. But no matter what happens in my life, I will never stop
> believing in God. Some people may think it's stupid to pray to someone not
> there , and when you think about it..it sort of is.

	Then why do it?  Study the theory of memetics to discover how your
religion came to be, and how it propagates (like a disease).

> For a time, I was only a
> christian because all my friends were. And I was disgusted when I saw how
> close they were to the Lord and that I had never experienced that. But when
> I did...it was amazing. At the time, I was lost in a world full of despair
> and one night i talked out loud begging God to just answer back..for me just
> to know that he was there. Even though no voice came..the answer did. It was
> as if a warmth flowed throught my whole body.

	You describe a mild schizotypal event.  Religions are created, almost
always, by schizophrenics (people who experience 24/7 what you experienced).
Take any major biblical or infamous character for example.  Moses heard voices
in his head, perceived that it was god, and the voice told him to kill people,
so he did.  Charley manson also heard voices in his head, perceived that voice
to be god, and did what the voices said (killed people).  Schizophrenics like
Moses, and Manson are almost always charismatic, and have NUMEROUS followers.
Manson still has followers even tho he is currently in prison.  Amazing, isn't
it?  Jeffrey Dahmer not only claimed god told him to kill and EAT people, but
used bible quotes in his trial, for his defense.  Dahmer was a devout
christian, a christian with a very unusual eating disorder I guess.  ;o)

> I felt him watching me, and i
> felt how sad he was for the Earth. He had created us and we let him down.

	I'm amazed that a god would create flawed creatures and then punish
them for being flawed.  ;o)  Perhaps you'd be happier as an atheist?  :o)

> But I knew that I wouldn't be another name on his list of screw ups. You may
> think this all sounds stupid, but in the end...faith is what ties you closer
> to him. You can see a mirage, but that doesn't mean it's there.

	But I can reproduce a mirage in the laboratory.  You can NOT reproduce
god(s).  If something can be reproduced, it is real (mirages are real, the
perceived pool of water is what is NOT real).  However, I have been known to
experiment using hallucinogens and was able on many occasions, to not only see,
but ultimately to BECOME god.  Doing mental experiments such as this only
fortified my testament that I would forever be atheist.  Initially I was able
to hear god speaking to me, eventually I was able to make god say silly things,
and in the end, I supplanted god with myself (what's called the level 5 trip).
Induced schizophrenia such as this has been VERY enlightening.

> As long as
> you believe something..it is real (at least to you it is)

	Remember when you were a child, and believed that santa clause and the
easter bunny were real?  To you they were!  Don't you feel silly today for
believing such?  Don't you feel silly for believing in god(s)?

> and I don't know
> what I would do if I didn't have my belief in God.

	Throw away the crutch, stand on your own?  :o)

> He is in my heart and
> it's the gre atest feeling. I would rather suffer a christian than live a
> sad empty life.

	You describe sadness and emptiness which is only filled with the love
of a non-existent entity (Harvey the Rabbit is REAL).  :o)

> E-mail me on your thoughts..i would really like to hear
> them.

	Remember Angela, you DID ask for this.  :o)

James

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:50:46 +0100
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:


hi James.
Exactly like that.Either you're an atheïst or you're not.People who include
gods in their calculations are false prophets(or fake scientists,whatever).
btw i've had quite a few reactions from people because of your website on
the rear of my car.Most of them were positive.Guess there's hope after
all.best wishes,Heusdude






>From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:37:44 -0600
>Reply-To: james@antichrist.net
>To: patrick
>Subject: Re:
>
>patrick wrote:
> >
> > Hi James
> > I've read your discussion with that so-called christian scientist,and
>have
> > laughed my head off.what a weirdo.
> > Looks like he read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe and
>misinterpreted
> > the entire idea.
> > well anyway i really enjoyed reading it.
> > keep up the good work.
> > greetings from Patrick,the Netherlands.
>
>	Thanks for the friendly email of encouragement, I don't get too many
>like this anymore.  :o)  Anyone who is intelligent would get a kick out of
>that
>email, that's for sure.  :o)  What is amazing however, is that theists who
>call
>themselves Scientists have proven over and over again they are not very
>good
>Scientists, and probably not very good mystics either.
>
>James


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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:11:52 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

patrick wrote:
>
> hi James.
> Exactly like that.Either you're an atheïst or you're not.People who include
> gods in their calculations are false prophets(or fake scientists,whatever).
> btw i've had quite a few reactions from people because of your website on
> the rear of my car.Most of them were positive.Guess there's hope after
> all.best wishes,Heusdude

	Wow, man have YOU got balls!  :o)  However, I know it's much better for
atheists and anti-christianity in the Netherlands.  Here, our president talks
about god every 5 minutes, that would NEVER happen in the Netherlands!  Here,
if you get caught with even a small amount of marijuana, under the new
zero-tolerance laws, you will spend the next 5 years in a prison labor camp
since we now have mandatory minimum sentences for drugs.  We both know what the
marijuana laws are like where YOU are.  ;o)

	People around here have had www.antichrist.net on their cars, but the
4th Apostle Frederick can tell you first hand what the police do to you IF they
catch you.  We have freedom of speech here, so long as you don't say bad things
against the most dominant god (jesus).  There is no justice for the atheists.

	I would be afraid to have antichrist dot net on my car for the above
reason, and for the fact I'm sure I'd come back to find the tires slashed, and
the paint job keyed with deep scratches.  It just isn't worth it.  Still, it's
great to hear YOU'RE doing it, I hope to hear from more Dutch atheists!  :o)

James
Editor's note: Marijuana is LEGAL in the Netherlands.


Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:25:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Jerk

If you feel threatened don't blame me. You ought to realize it is the
Lord trying to get a hold of you. So the Bible is nothing more than
tabloid in your opinion. Here is a tabloid headline;
          FOOL BURNS IN HELL FOR ETERNITY
Yes that will be you because the Bible says  a
fool hath said in his heart there is no God.
You will get it worse because you are causing kids to read and believe
your bullsh*t.
Go ahead burn in hell. When you look up and
see all of God's saints in Heaven just know  that
nobody can bring you any water. Read the story of the rich man and
Lazarus.
Well have fun in Hell Jerk. I hope this is more
interesting to you.
You are the weakest link      bye bye.

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:41:46 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Jerk

Jeff wrote:
>
> If you feel threatened don't blame me. You ought to realize it is the
> Lord trying to get a hold of you. So the Bible is nothing more than
> tabloid in your opinion. Here is a tabloid headline;
>           FOOL BURNS IN HELL FOR ETERNITY
> Yes that will be you because the Bible says  a
> fool hath said in his heart there is no God.

	Do you believe everything you read?  My point was, that taboids contain
written text, and most people do NOT believe it because it is far too fantastic
to be real.  The bible also contains written text, which are fantastic reports.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."  -- Carl Sagan

> You will get it worse because you are causing kids to read and believe
> your bullsh*t.
> Go ahead burn in hell. When you look up and
> see all of God's saints in Heaven just know  that
> nobody can bring you any water. Read the story of the rich man and
> Lazarus.

"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on
evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."  -- Carl Sagan

> Well have fun in Hell Jerk. I hope this is more
> interesting to you.
> You are the weakest link      bye bye.

	My first instinct was not to write to you, as you want to insult me,
and accused me of ignoring your first email, "It is me again. I wrote earlier
today but you probably discarded it because you are not a man but a mouse".  I
see now that my instincts were correct.  I will however, leave you with
something to think about.  Do you realize that if you were to compare yourself
to me, based solely upon our personality traits, that I am more christ-like
than you, while you on the other hand are more akin in your persona to the
biblically described character named satan?  Just something to think about.

	I think most of the christians who will be reading this email on the
website will agree, they would NOT want to be in heaven with the likes of you.
And as far as christianity is concerned YOU are in fact, the weakest link.

James
Editor's note: Keep watching for more messages from Jeff throughout this
               MOTHERLOAD 3 section.  He is quite literally the worst
               example to champion christianity.  However, he has proven
               to be most entertaining, as I am sure you will all agree.
               Jeff has become the centerpiece for this section.  :o)


Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:06:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

Fair questions to which I will respond.
First of all No I do not believe everything I read.
However I do believe the Bible. You are right
the Bible is a written text but it was inspired text. What that means is
that God breathed the
words and Holy men of God penned them as they were moved by the Holy
Spirit. True the
Bible is fantastic but it is to fantastic not to
believe.
Secondly the evidence of truth is found all
through the Bible. In Genesis Chapter 1 it
says God created the world and here we are.
Isaiah prophesied of a coming king and lo and
behold Jesus was born of a virgin just as promised.
I don't know nor do I care who that Carl Sagan
idiot was. I do not believe because I need to I
believe because Jesus said to and that is all
there is to belief Jesus said it that settles it
whether you believe or not.
Now you made a funny. You are a atheist you
do not even believe there is a God and you are
going to say you are more Christ like and I am
more like Satan man are you ever in the real
world sounds to me you are living in the twilight zone.
I have read some of the posted letters on your
site and some of them are from Christians I suppose. I will say the ones
from Christians that
I have read agree with me. They have tried to
warn you to come to Christ that is all I have done.  Go ahead and post
me I am sure even more Christians would agree with me. I know
I agree with one posting I saw your site
does suck.

Jeff

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:54:10 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.

>True genius is inherited, it is not earned.  However, one must realize
>there is a difference between genius and talent.  Anyone can >become talented,
>but only a genius can achieve without much effort, that which another must work
>hard to achieve.  This has caused great animosity between those with talent,
>and those with genius.  Animosity, and more accurately, jealousy.  :o)

That's an interesting observation. I hadn't seen it from that light before,
but there does seem to be somewhat of a noticeable division between those who
work hard to achieve greatness, and those who seem to have it come with ease.

>
>	It just bothers me when I know I've made a mistake.  If you detect any,
>please feel free to point them out.  Becoming aware is how one grows.  :o)

Of course. What are friends for? :)

>And catastrophic failures are often the result.  Note the recent loss
>of the Columbia (my favorite Space Shuttle).  I have had many employers along
>the way who would force me to cut corners and hurry a project to completion.  I
>HATED IT!  A recent foreman on a contract used to use the phrase "Done is
>done!" to emphasize that he wanted to get done, quality be damned.

Oh gosh...I've been there before! Seems like people only want it done their
way for the sake of their benefit...not for the sake of the best possible
outcome and to say the least, it's disturbing that people like that have any
sort of authority in society...

>Pride is a major factor too. I am very proud to put my name on what I
>do, and there are spacecraft that have my name on it, which I am proud
>to claim.  Nothing is more satisfying that doing a good job to advance
>Science.

It's the warm fuzzy feeling. ;) (among the others that come with it like the
major sense of accomplishment)

>I am what I am, I will never change. All of my ex'es have tried to
>change me, but I refused, and left them frustrated and angry.  Love has
>always turned to hate.  What they loved most about me, or what they
>found most attractive, ultimately became that which they most despised.
>[intelligence]

Why...why do women think they can change a man??? That is probably woman's #1
fault...trying to alter what they will never have control of. Will they be
frustrated? You bet! Because it never works. They end up hating those they
could not change or mold to be what they wanted. Some women genuinely care
about a man and want the change for his own well being. Many more women just
want to claim credit for the change as it makes them feel as if they were able
to successfully manipulate a man to do what they wanted them to.

>It's easy to be a safe driver, just do exactly what you are taught in
>drivers ed.  Go slow!  Look both ways, enter intersections with
>caution, even if you have the green light.  I recently avoided a
>serious accident when I crept into an intersection, and saw a truck
>coming too fast to be able to stop. I came to a stop in the
>intersection, and he blew through, right in front of me, yacking away
>on his cell phone, oblivious to what just transpired.  :o/

Do you think people should be permitted to use cell phones while they are
driving? I don't. I feel it distracts them from their attention of the road.
The only thing worse would be to have a television set on the dashboard they
are using for video-conferences while they drive. While I don't have a perfect
traffic record, I can honestly say I've never provoked nor been in an accident
due to cell phones or any similar situations where I should have known better.

>You may not believe this but I never exceed 50 mph on the highway, not
>out of fear of higher speeds, but because my transmission isn't geared
>to do 65.  I measured the optimum RPM of travel (speed versus fuel
>economy) and 50 mph was the magic speed (2100 RPM).  So that's the
>speed at which I travel. Some would probably say I drive like an old
>lady, and I guess I do!  :o)

Well, if you get optimal milage for fuel expendature, then there's no prob.
with that. Especially with the gas prices as high as they are now, thanks to
Gee-dubya's war on sanity...

>> Aww, she's adorable!
>
>Yes, she is.  I could not be more in love with another person than I am
>with Megan.  However, she does have her faults, but the most incredible
>aspect of her is that no matter how bad I feel, she ALWAYS and
>CONSISTENTLY makes me feel good about myself, and about the world in
>general.  She is amazing!  :o)

I used to be in love with a woman named Serena who was much to me like Megan
is to you. It's a long story, but even being with my g/f of three years and
living together with her peacefully, there are days I still dream about and
miss Serena...

>This is not my first rendering, my first was with acrylics which did
>not turn out so good.  It's online too, but I'm reluctant to show it to
>people.

Well, prototypes are never meant to look like finished products. ;) If you
want to show it I'd like to see it, but that's entirely up to you.

>> I have always been one
>> to appreciate artistic talent and female beauty, so I give you two
>> thumbs up on this painting. :) Did you ever date her?
>
>	Thank you, people can often find common ground with art.  :o)
>When I share with people my art, or my music, they don't think I'm some
>kind of satanic demonic devil worshiper (which I'm not anyway, merely
>an atheist).

Yeah, art is a wonderful thing. :) From music to poetry to any other form it
may assume, it's always able to leave people with a good feeling when people
understand it.

>However, when the subject turns to religion, the hatred always begins.
>:o(

Well, I think it may be the way the site is, the way the discussion goes, and
the way people are often brought up to think, too. When people see the word
anti-christ (especially Christians), their immediate response and association
to this is satanic and/or possible devil worshiper, which is not always the
case. It's a little unfair, to say the least, to see jews be called children
of God (something they are not and will never be), though they do not believe
that Jesus was the son of God, and that makes them anti-christ! Yet, try to
tell anyone this...Christian or not...who kisses the ass of their nearest jew,
and they will call you an anti-semite, a neo-nazi, or any other propaganda
buzz word they have been trained to respond with.

The website you have portrays your views well through its text, but the use
of satanic symbols is what more than likely leads people to see you as some
sort of satan worshiping person...which you are not. If you want people to
take you more seriously, you might want to communicate your ideals pictorally
as well as you do textually, so people who cannot understand fully what you
have written on your pages can understand better by the site design and
imagery. I don't think anyoyne should hate you for being who you are and
wanting people to know it. They have the choice to type your web address or
click on your site from a search engine. If they make that choice, they should
be prepared to deal with what they know they will likely see. Knowing people
are like this though, a site design that would lead them to be more thoughtful
about how they respond may be ideal. Who knows...maybe some of the people who
write you hate mail might get to know you're actually a pretty nice person.  :)

>No, I never dated my pretty little Megan.  I did give her a hug once,
>but I didn't let go when she did, in fact I never wanted to let go.  I
>wished I could die, right then, so that I wouldn't have to know that
>feeling, for the first time in my life, and then have it taken away.
>This rather freaked her out a bit, but she didn't show it.  She never
>again gave me a hug.  So with that one expression, and my memories,
>that's all I have now.  Today I measure every girl I meet by Megan.
>Her perky personality, charming smile, positive outlook, and
>bubbly/giggly persona has totally won my heart.  Love is something
>you can't quantify, qualify, or even explain.  I have loved so very
>few, and I do truly love Megan.  And yes, her eyes really are THAT
>BLUE!  :o)

I felt that early on...because it would seem that tragedy strikes at a
moments notice, and to paint her as you did meant you were willing to give her
the time and expression she truly deserved. After what happened with Serena, I
became bitter and cold to the world. In a moment's notice, I decided to work
around the clock to destroy it. I wanted to make the world, and it's people,
suffer greatly. I wanted the legion of idiots who run amuck and act as if they
own society to be humbled and realize they are at the mercy of any one man who
hides in the shadows and never shows his true potential. I put all my energies
and my greatest mental powers to the tasks of figuring out how to make people
suffer unnecessarily as I had. I wanted revenge bitter sweet, and served cold.
Not very Christian of me, I know, but I was determined...and once I am, it is
hard if not nearly impossible to stop me.

I came to the realization, after much extensive work and nearly coming to the
completion of my goal...that if I were successful, Serena would love me less
and hate me more for what I was about to do...after several weeks of
contemplation of this, I stopped. Maybe one of the most questionable things I
still wonder about myself today is why I feel so bitter about having stopped
even still. I returned somewhat to the person I used to be prior to my time
with Serena, but I'm not sure if I will ever be who I once was now.

If you want to hear the story behind Serena let me know and I will share. It
still hurts me to this day what happened and why, but there must have been a
valid reason for it. There is nothing quite like trusting fully and putting
your love securely with the woman of your dreams only to have that love taken
away from you. If there were one thing I could protect people from of this
world, it would be that feeling.

Are you still able to talk to Megan? Or did she move away or do something
that makes it impossible to reach her now?
                                                                James

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:33:49 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

Jeff wrote:
>
> Fair questions to which I will respond.
> First of all No I do not believe everything I read.

	I believe only that which I can prove, and things which are easy to
prove, I often will assume to be true.  This is the mind of a typical Scientist.

> However I do believe the Bible. You are right
> the Bible is a written text but it was inspired text. What that means is
> that God breathed the
> words and Holy men of God penned them as they were moved by the Holy

	Charley Manson was inspired by god to write a book, I believe it was
titled something about earth, air, water, and animals.  He was also told to
kill people by god.  Jeffrey Dahmer made similar claims.  The same was true for
moses.  Here is even more information, from a Heraldo Rivera interview:

Manson calls himself Jesus Christ, but, like Emerson, he also says that every
man is Jesus Christ. Every man has the original energy within him. "I am
everything, man," he says, and he means it. But he does not bother to explain
when the "I" of his discourse is the person, Charles Manson, or the Universal
eye that is the will of God. Thus he tells Rivera, "If I could kill about fifty
million of you I might save my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife."
Taking him literally, and hoping for a good violent soundbite, Rivera responds,
"You're going to kill fifty million people?"  Manson's answer is instructive.
It shows both what he is trying to say and his inability to communicate it. "I
didn't say I would kill anything," he protests. "I'm reaping the head in
thought. I'm Jesus Christ whether you want to accept it or not... I'm reaping
it in thought. It's a thought, a thought," He taps his fingers on his head to
emphasize his point. "Do you see what I'm saying? In other words, the whole
world is a thought, and I am in the thought of Peace-on-Earth."

	So here is where one has to ask oneself, was the original jesus for
real, or made up by the Romans (as a control meme for their slaves) and if he
WERE real, was he a lord, a liar, or a lunatic like Manson?  Probability states
that since they hadn't yet identified the disease schizophrenia yet, he and
many like him were simply schizophrenics.  Today, we can take a schizophrenic
who is "channeling jesus" and simply TURN OFF the voice of god with any one of
several anti-psychotic drugs.  This is my theory for the origins of religion.

> Spirit. True the
> Bible is fantastic but it is to fantastic not to
> believe.
> Secondly the evidence of truth is found all
> through the Bible. In Genesis Chapter 1 it
> says God created the world and here we are.
> Isaiah prophesied of a coming king and lo and
> behold Jesus was born of a virgin just as promised.

	Since there was as much promiscuity back then as there is today, the
odds are that she was merely an unwed mother, something we see LOTS of today.
To avoid being killed, she made up a story to save her life.  It worked.  This
is a plausible story, since historical texts have suggested that mary had sex
with many men.  http://www.answering-christianity.com/jews1.htm

Sanhedrin 106a Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of
princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2
to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is
written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

> I don't know nor do I care who that Carl Sagan
> idiot was.

	He was a very famous astronomer, a most learned man, your academic
superior, and one of my greatest mentors.  His teachings fortified my love of
Science, and his skeptical thinking inspired me to question everything, which
has greatly advanced my standing within the Scientific community.  Sagan was
famous for his TV show "Cosmos" which aired some 20 years ago.

> I do not believe because I need to I
> believe because Jesus said to and that is all
> there is to belief Jesus said it that settles it
> whether you believe or not.

	But Charley Manson said similar things, why believe one and not the
other?  Both claim they are the voice of god!

> Now you made a funny. You are a atheist you
> do not even believe there is a God and you are
> going to say you are more Christ like and I am
> more like Satan man are you ever in the real
> world sounds to me you are living in the twilight zone.

	No, I am only stating fact.  I strive to be a good and decent person,
who uses Science to advance all of mankind, even the christians.  You appear to
be someone who insults anyone who does not have his disease (religion) in an
attempt to get them infected with the same thought virus (meme).

> I have read some of the posted letters on your
> site and some of them are from Christians I suppose. I will say the ones
> from Christians that
> I have read agree with me. They have tried to
> warn you to come to Christ that is all I have done.

	Who is to say jesus is the correct god?  There are so many.  More
people worship allah than jesus, so if it was put to a world vote, YOU would be
voted down!  Of course I believe all religions to be equally false, but what if
allah IS the true god, and he punishes you in hell for foolishly worshiping the
false god jesus?  Won't you look silly burning in allah's hell!  :o)

> Go ahead and post
> me I am sure even more Christians would agree with me. I know
> I agree with one posting I saw your site
> does suck.

	Most of the posts on my site suck.  And yes, I will post your emails,
along with many others in the upcoming MOTHERLOAD 3 section.

James

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:35:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

You can prove the Bible perhaps if you would
take the time to check it out.
Manson and Dahmer were maniacs that were
probably barely able to write their abc's much
less any book I would ever read.
There is only one mediator between God and
man and that was Christ, The Bible says no man has seen God so how can
these idiot's
call themself God or Christ. Furthermore  when
God spoke to people it was to follow him not to
go kill people and eat their body parts.
There is one thing wrong with the science theory science did not create
the world my God
did. However I do agree with the big bang theory God said bang and it
came into existence.
That is strange my Bible says Mary the mother
of my Lord was a highly favored woman. Don't
sound like no whore to me.
In Your eyes you are good and decent that is
admirable. But unfortunately the word of God
says there is none good no not one. It also says
all our righteousness is as filthy rags.
You talk of scientist Darwin was a scientist.
He later said he never meant his theory to become a religion. He
recanted because he knew he was wrong.
In my opinion that is how this no God thing was
started .
I can only hope you realize the truth one day.
I have done stated Manson was a loon off his
rocker. His words have no credibility. zilch.
nada. Enough said about the fruit.
Are you from America. This Allah god was the same thing that the
terrorist worshipped  when
they hurt our land, You are going to tell me that
a true god would condone such a act.
A true God would intervene. In a way a true
God did. If you could ask any survivor who
held the twin towers up long enough for people to get out they would say
Jesus that is the true
God. I feel like preaching.
Most people worship Allah where you base that
assumption. Most real Christians that are not ashamed to be identified
with Christ will gladly stand up and say Jesus is the true God. As far
as Hell goes thought you didn't believe in it.
There is a Hell but it is for rejectors of Christ.
Allah has nothing to do with it sorry.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:05:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

You said in this letter that you take all religion
as being false. How then can you say Allah is
the one true God? You are beginning to
contradict yourself.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:18:21 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Follow-up and correction.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, James W wrote:

> > True genius is inherited, it is not earned.  However, one must realize
> > there is a difference between genius and talent.  Anyone can become
> > talented, but only a genius can achieve without much effort, that
> > which another must work hard to achieve.  This has caused great
> > animosity between those with talent, and those with genius.
> > Animosity, and more accurately, jealousy.  :o)
>
> That's an interesting observation. I hadn't seen it from that light
> before, but there does seem to be somewhat of a noticeable division
> between those who work hard to achieve greatness, and those who seem to
> have it come with ease.

	The only people who know this truth are of course genius, since only we
know the requirements of our accomplishments.  I am able to sit back and watch
others who try to do what I do, and I genuinely feel their frustrations, as
they fail over and over, while I scarcely err doing the same tasks.  I remember
hearing black basketball players saying the same thing about white players on
their team, how they have to work very hard and the blacks can play without
even thinking.  Thats how it is with myself and Science.

	This is not to say that I always become an expert at what I attempt.  I
did learn to play guitar as well as many professional musicians in just over
two weeks, however I have never become as good as yngwie malmsteen, but I have
become approximately equal to tony iommi (who's style I closely emulate, but
not exactly by choice).  :o)  I'd rather adopt the voodoo style of jimi
hendrix, but it seems that one must be born with that style, not earn it.  :o)
I would imagine as with sports, it's a race related issue.

> >     It just bothers me when I know I've made a mistake.  If you
> > detect any, please feel free to point them out.  Becoming aware is how
> > one grows.  :o)
>
> Of course. What are friends for? :)

	I didn't imagine you'd say that after our first few emails.  :o)

> > project to completion.  I HATED IT!  A recent foreman on a contract
> > used to use the phrase "Done is done!" to emphasize that he wanted to
> > get done, quality be damned.
>
> Oh gosh...I've been there before! Seems like people only want it done
> their way for the sake of their benefit...not for the sake of the best
> possible outcome and to say the least, it's disturbing that people like
> that have any sort of authority in society...

	No, in this case it wasn't how it was done, just that it GOT DONE!
Usually I am given wide latitude in my designs, because of my reputation.  Few
engineers or designers will refute my ideas.  In the business world, if you can
walk the walk, and have the history to prove it, you can talk the talk.  :o)

> > Pride is a major factor too. I am very proud to put my name on what I
> > do, and there are spacecraft that have my name on it, which I am proud
> > to claim.  Nothing is more satisfying that doing a good job to advance
> > Science.
>
> It's the warm fuzzy feeling. ;) (among the others that come with it like
> the major sense of accomplishment)

	So why are you then hell bent on being a mystic?

> > I am what I am, I will never change. All of my ex'es have tried to
> > change me, but I refused, and left them frustrated and angry.  Love
> > has always turned to hate.  What they loved most about me, or what
> > they found most attractive, ultimately became that which they most
> > despised.  [intelligence]
>
> Why...why do women think they can change a man??? That is probably woman's
> #1 fault...trying to alter what they will never have control of. Will they
> be frustrated? You bet! Because it never works. They end up hating those
> they could not change or mold to be what they wanted. Some women genuinely
> care about a man and want the change for his own well being. Many more
> women just want to claim credit for the change as it makes them feel as if
> they were able to successfully manipulate a man to do what they wanted
> them to.

	It's funny.  Nerd women are attracted to jock men, and then try to make
nerds out of them.  Jock women (and I've dated quite a few of them) try to
convert nerds such as myself, into sports jocks.  Why this is, I do not know.
The old adage is that opposites attract, however similarities create bonds.

	My last girlfriend, an Australian named Kelly (I call her Kelly roo)
was fascinated with my Scientific abilities, but she herself was sports
oriented.  We had a long distance relationship for two years getting together
for a few months each of those two years, and it didn't work out.  She hated
the USA (and with good reason) while I was unable to immediately dump
everything I have here and move to Australia.  She was also way too young and
pretty for just one man, she had another boyfriend, so I decided she and I
should remain as friends.  We do have a closeness, but she's not nearly as into
poetry and art as I am.  Don't get me wrong, she's one of the smartest girls I
know, but her field of study is history, whereas mine are the hard Sciences.

	I have failed in relationships with Americans, French, Australians and
Russians.  I'm running out of countries pretty darn quick!  :o)  However, I
have learned new languages as a result, and now speak 5 languages.

> > coming too fast to be able to stop. I came to a stop in the
> > intersection, and he blew through, right in front of me, yacking away
> > on his cell phone, oblivious to what just transpired.  :o/
>
> Do you think people should be permitted to use cell phones while they are
> driving? I don't. I feel it distracts them from their attention of the
> road. The only thing worse would be to have a television set on the
> dashboard they are using for video-conferences while they drive. While I
> don't have a perfect traffic record, I can honestly say I've never
> provoked nor been in an accident due to cell phones or any similar
> situations where I should have known better.

	I am pretty much of the opinion that people should be allowed to do
what ever it is they want to do, travel at what ever speed they feel is safe,
with the following restrictions.  They must be insured.  They must pass a
competency test (unlike the current licensing scheme).  They are allowed two
at fault accidents per driver, lifetime total.  Upon the third at fault, their
privilege to drive is revoked.  Anyone caught driving without meeting the
aforementioned conditions should be jailed to protect society.  This is pretty
much how things work in Germany, and it works well for them.

	My attitudes also extend into the personal choices of people, if they
choose to consume/use drugs, so be it.  If they become irresponsible, they must
then pay the consequ