Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:20:50 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ

John wrote:
>
>      Generally, I'm sure many people would start out with "calling
> yourselves apostles is blasphemy". However, I don't care, I think it's great
> what you guys are doing.

	Well, it's performance art, really.  We don't believe in god(s) so we
can't be blaspheming anything if that which we blaspheme does not exist.

>    At any rate, I am a member of a pentecostal youth group in [removed],
	[...]
> supporting anti-christian points. I was wondering if perhaps the 3 of your
> could provide me with the scientific explanations on why you believe Christ
> did not exist.

	The whole of the antichrist dot net website is a wealth of information.
Just read some of the things we've all written, go over the motherload
sections, follow some of the links such as...

Linkname: ROMAN PISO FAMILY WROTE THE NEW TESTAMENT, INVENTED "JESUS"
     URL: http://www.konformist.com/blasphemy/piso.htm

> could give me would be greatly appreciated. Much of this is so convincing
> that if fully converted to the faith of Science... I would be very
> interested in becoming an apostle. You would have the John to your James, as
> it were.

	Wow, a christian becomes atheist?  You're an absolute first.  I hope
our rabid buddy Jeff (smattered all over the MOTHERLOAD 3 section) sees this
message!  :o)  Are you serious, or just joking with us?  Because most people
become atheist as children, dropping god along with santa and the easter bunny.

James

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:01:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ

Sounds to me that poor ignorant individual never really knew my Savior
in the first place.
Tell him if he truly was a christian he never
can lose it. The Bible says and I (Jesus) give
unto them eternal life and they shall never perish. Neither shall any
man pluck them out of my Father's hand. You did not convert anyone the
guy never was saved in the first place.
You avoided my statement that you have to believe something to be true
to be against it by
saying I just don't get it. Apparently you are the one who does not
understand simple logic and
you said you were genius.
You also made a incorrect statement about our
forefathers. Our nation was built on Biblical
standards God being the role model. Perhaps
you have never heard the pledge of allegiance.
Thanks to the ignorance of people like yourself
God was kicked out of our country so to speak.
But don't you fret My Lord promised the victory
over the sin f this world.
You say Satan is not real read in Isaiah where
  Lucifer (Satan) was thrown out of Heaven.
You said  Lucifer meant enlightened one the
boy don't sound intelligent to me.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:06:28 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ

one more thng you three false prophets know
nothing about christianity if you did you would
be christians. In fact sounds like you don't know
much about Satan.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:13:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

ask your atheist pal Maeline Murray O'Hare
how she is liking Hell right now,

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:28:22 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Jeff
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ

Jeff wrote:
>
> Sounds to me that poor ignorant individual never really knew my Savior
> in the first place.

	He is the rarest of individual, one who fell into religion, but is now
becoming wise to the reality it is all bunk.  I've never met such before.

> Tell him if he truly was a christian he never
> can lose it. The Bible says and I (Jesus) give
> unto them eternal life and they shall never perish. Neither shall any
> man pluck them out of my Father's hand. You did not convert anyone the
> guy never was saved in the first place.

	Whatever you say Jeff.  ;o)  "The tabloid says..."

> You avoided my statement that you have to believe something to be true
> to be against it by
> saying I just don't get it. Apparently you are the one who does not
> understand simple logic and
> you said you were genius.

	I didn't say I was a genius, my peers did, many of whom rank me above
themselves.  I did not ask to be "enlightened" I simply was (see below).  ;o)

> You also made a incorrect statement about our
> forefathers. Our nation was built on Biblical
> standards God being the role model.

	You obviously were ejumacated in the public school system.  ;o)  Our
founding fathers were ATHEIST, all of them!  Not one of them believed in god.

America's founding fathers were not Christian
http://www.sciforums.com/archive/59/2000/11/3/2490

The founding fathers views on religion - in their own words.
http://www.nofaith.org/a_founders.shtml

The Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/ffnc/

Founding Fathers Religious Comments
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0080qu

> Perhaps
> you have never heard the pledge of allegiance.

	Perhaps you didn't know that the pledge did NOT contain the word "god"
until the COLD WAR!  Perhaps you slept in school, because I too was taught in
the public school system, and I certainly _do_ remember them teaching this.

"The phrase "under God" was added in 1954 during the height of the cold war
against godless communism."
One Nation Under God We Trust
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/7250/thoughts/onenationundergodwetrust.html

"Congress would expressly endorse monotheistic religion during the Cold War by
putting ... that there is a "God" and that America is "one nation under God"
CBS News | One Nation, Under Law | June 27, 2002 06:59:29
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/27/news/opinion/courtwatch/main513567.shtml

> Thanks to the ignorance of people like yourself
> God was kicked out of our country so to speak.

	God was never IN our country.  The only person who has proven his
ignorance is of course, you.  You failed to study history, you frankly know
nothing, not of Science, nor of history, and you do _not_ live in reality!

> But don't you fret My Lord promised the victory
> over the sin f this world.
> You say Satan is not real read in Isaiah where
>   Lucifer (Satan) was thrown out of Heaven.
> You said  Lucifer meant enlightened one the
> boy don't sound intelligent to me.

	Look up the meaning of the word "Lucifer", it means "bringer of light"
or "enlightened one".  Lucifer in fact, represents anyone who refutes the belief
in god, because lucifer is `smarter than those who believe in gods'.

Lucifer (a Roman word) bringer of light, enlightenment.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/wiggy/pages/e.html

"Lucifer" the bringer of light
http://www.ladyoftheearth.com/religious/lucifer.txt

Most beloved angel the name of 'The Light Bringer' - Lucifer.
http://servantsofthelight.org/SOL/Archives/Articles/Evil_Devil_Lucifer.html

	Everything you say, 100% of what you say, I am able to easily refute,
and prove my point with web examples.  How can any one person be filled with so
much falsehoods and lies, and more so, DEFEND those falsehoods and lies?

James

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:33:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ

Do you believe everything you read, I know
for a fact our forfathers knew the truth about our natin beig uilt on
God. You ittle stupid atheism
cant handle that.
for you info Lucifer was a angel of God who wanted to be above God. read
Isaiah if you are not to chicken. He was specifically named as the
fallen angel. You still did not answer my question how can you be
against something
that is not real. You are against Christ nd brother He is real.

I did not ay anyhing the Bible says it. You made a statemen tha you
miscalculated Your intelligent scoring you sr did it said 000000000.
God was in ou country you stupid iotic moronic fool. Most of the oes who
signed or declaration of Independence were chistian men so I dont care
what your little atheist site tells you.
Once again you are the one that has proven
your
mentality.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.
get the picture you sorry piece of trash.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Jeff is unwilling, or unable to accept historical facts,
               simply because they make him feel uncomfortable.  Not
               accepting the truth does not make it any less true.  The
               United States was founded by atheists and deists, and NOT
               by christians.  Truth is sometimes, not what you expect!


Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:46:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

please do me a favor make that dude an
apostle i would love to write him and tell him what kind of low life
stinking scum he is for
turning his back on the Lord that saved
him. that is if you have the balls to do so
you ignorant piece of dog waste

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:09:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

I feel spunky today let's have some fun.
You stated that we were not created we
just are. We just happened right? You may
be on to something. Have you ever heard the
cliche sh*t happens. You know they even come
out with a bumper sticker that says that. In a
way you would be correct because you are the biggest piece of crap that
ever walked the face
of this earth. Your also full of crap.
You said that you wished that christians would
have to denounce God before they were treated by the medical field or
sent home to pray to their God to heal them.
You remember when I told you Heaven was a
three fold reality. The first heaven being the atmosphere in which we
live, the second heaven being space, the third heaven being the
celestial place he has prepared for his believers. You failed to respond
by the way.
Here is what I wish. I wish all you atheist were
put in the middle of that second heaven called space where you could see
God's creation the moon, stars,etc, . You would have no contact with any
thing u would be begging to come back to this earth. And you would say I
believe Lord.
You expect a intelligent person like me to believe some atheist can know
that men who
lived 200 years ago or more were not christians. Your site you got that
from is just like you full of crap. I can still truthfully say my Jesus
still loves you.   There is still hope for you. I have spoken nothing
but the truth and you know it. Furthermore other christians will agree
like they already have but you probably will not post this because it
shows you for what you really are worthless.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:05:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

You say that Satan is not real several of the
post in your Motherload have said he is and
they have come from your atheist friends.
I will say good for them at least they know
who is deceiving them.
May I again say the Bible calls Satan the prince
of darkness, the prince and principality of the air, and the God of this
world. After all somethinghas to be making you believe the crap you are
spreading.
But don't worry the Bible says be not afraid for I (Jesus) have overcome
the world.
Let me put this in a way that even a genius can
understand. Jesus in his death, burial, and
resurrection defeated your god (Satan) on the
cross. It is really cool to be intelligent like myself and must really
suck to be stupid like you. Post this unless you are afraid it will turn
your atheist buddies to Christ.
Jesus Lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit trying to outwit me. You are no match
for a child of the one and only true King the
MAN CHRIST JESUS.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Jeff fails to understand the difference between atheists
               and satanists.  Satanists believe in god/satan, while
               atheists do not.  We, the Apostles at antichrist dot net
               are atheist, we do not believe in any deities.  Now as for
               being no match for his wit, I will let you, the reader, be
               the judge of that.  Decide on your own.  ;o)


Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:41:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Creation Science Evangelism

http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=10

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:54:14 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

hope you enjoy the page i sent. fnally a scientist with more sense than
you.
dont worry thre is more where that came from
toprove you stupid. told you  that you cant
outwit me . bye for now STUPID

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: I probably have more patience than some people deserve.
               Now to give you, the reader, something substantial...
               WHY SUPPORTERS OF EVOLUTION AND CREATION SCIENCE BELIEVE AS
               THEY DO and CREATION SCIENCE: IS IT REALLY A SCIENCE?  Now
               you have the tools to draw your OWN conclusions.


Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:54:34 +0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: y?


hi james, its farah.

i have studied ur website alot and the only point i still not get is what
makes you not to blieve in God? if there is no god than how did the
universe kome into being? how u were created?

who is behind everything???????

waiting for ur reply

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:33:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff
To: timothy@antichrist.net
Subject:

I saw your site and I just wanted to tell yo that you are so wrong.
There is a God and he loves
you even though you deny him. You will never
destroy his existence or his ord no matter how hard or who you get to
believe your stupidity.
I done put James inhis place he won't even bother anymore you want to
take a shot I am
ready bring it on.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Timothy has disconnected his email.  No further information
               is available.


Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:22:02 EST
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: hello i feel you pain bout christians

hello i am just an ordinary man with simple dreams ......my dream is to have
a downfall of christian society. i believe that the bible was simply a scare
tactic that worked and continued too for certuries. i also believe that there
is no god/satan, heaven /hell is is simply to put in word just like santa.
but what pisses me off the most are "baptists" with their hypocracy and smug
comments they really suc what is going to make me lafe is when there so
called "savior" doesnt come that is going to make my day. also if you think
....christianity is alot like the nazi regime a movie called "left behind" is
in circulation and should be stop at all costs is is propoganda formed by
thse facist christian to make one have a "false" hope . but in closing thnk
you for your time and patience and please respond i love to have a reply from
you guys i tried "james" but he is overwelmed with hate mail

Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 01:31:23 +0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: plzzzzzzzzzzzzz do readdd my maill and plzzzzzzzzzzz do replyyy


 Hi James, my name is Farah. I am 21 years old girl. I don^Òt know
whether u r able to add my mail in ur website or if u r able to reply to
me but I m able to mail u .

Man^Òs beliefs are the foundations and prime motivators for actions.

 a non believer asked a muslim scholar:

if u r able to give answer of my questions i ll become muslim

he asked why do u believe in god even though u cannot se him

and how will devil be punished with fire , he is created from fire

so the scholar picked a piece of rock from ground and hit the non
believer

he cryed from pain

scholar  said this is the answer of both of ur questions

first u cannot see the pain but u believe there is pain

so God exists

and u r made up of mud

so u got hurt of the mud or not

so will the devil

God existed before u ,  b4 this universe.


 The true cause of the evils that beset mankind are disbelief, sinfulness
and ingratitude to God: ^ÓAnd whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is
because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much^Ô

^ÓEvil has appeared on the land and sea, because of what your hands have
earned. That Allah may make them taste a part of that which they have
done, in order that they may return^Ô.


Now I come to ^ÓQuran and Science^Ô.


At the times when things were not known, Quran had given the information
about those things. Quran has everything that is known to humans now and
which are still to be known.

It leads to pure science.

When all is said and done, scientific knowledge seems, in spite of what
many people may say or think, to be highly conducive to reflection on the
existence of God.

Science has produced theories based on empirical evidence that leads to
statements about things which we can not see. An example of this is the
existence of protons, neutrons and electrons. The existence of these is
not disputed, even though they can not be seen, because their existence
is believed in on the basis of what is visible and observable. The
Qur^Òan explains the existence of unseen realities, and the fact of their
being unseen does not make them any less real.

Why Christians are leaving their own religion and have started not
believing the Bible? The reason is : the things mentioned in Bible are
proving wrong. Bible says that universe was created in six days while
science does not believe in this short period.

Quran says that universe was created in six days; in which 4 days are for
the earth and 2 days for the sky BUT In Quran it has been mentioned that
one-day on earth is equal to 50,000 years to God. So if we multiply 6
with 50,000, it becomes 300,000 years, which means that God created the
universe in 300,000 years, which are equal to 6 days according to the
time on earth.


look at the sky, it stands without the pillars. Look at the alternacy of
day and night, look at the clouds keeping tons of water in it but still
cloud doesn^Òt fall to the ground

Quran says: look at the skies

do u see any pillar supporting them?

Science has proved it true....   show me any ceiling which stands without
a support.   Physics proves it true with the manufacturing of ceiling fan

Science says that there are gases between two seas which keeps them
separate and so there waters don^Òt mix in each other. This has been
mentioned in Quran years ago, which has been proved true by the science
now.

the statement in the Qur^Òan that life has an aquatic origin ( ^ÓAnd I
created every living thing out of water^Ô Qur^Òan, 21:30 ).

In Quran, it has been said by God that He has created everything out of
water and it has also been proved true by science.

The Sun and Moon.the Bible talks of the sun and the moon as two lights
differing only in size, the Qur^Òan distinguishes between them by the use
of different terms: light (noor) for the moon, and lamp (siraaj) for the
sun.The moon is an inert body which reflects light, whereas the sun is a
celestial body in a state of permanent combustion producing both light
and heat.

Stars and PlanetsThe word ^Ñstar^Ò (najm) in the Qur^Òan ( 86:3 ) is
accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and
consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was
much later discovered that stars are heavenly bodies producing their own
light like the sun.

Conquest of SpaceAmong the achievements of modern science is the
^Óconquest^Ô of space which has resulted in mans journey to the moon. The
prediction of this event surely springs to mind when we read the chapter
ar-Rahmaan in the Qur^Òan.

Authority to travel in space can only come from the Creator of the laws
which govern movement and space. The whole of this Qur^Òanic chapter
invites humankind to recognize God^Òs beneficence.

Water Cycle the versus in the Qur^Òan that refer to the water cycle seem
to express ideas that are now totally self-evident. But if we consider
the ideas prevalent at that time, they appear to be based more on myth
and philosophical speculation than on observed fact, even though useful
practical knowledge on soil irrigation was current at that period.

Such notions seem quite natural to us today, but we should not forget
that, not so long ago, they were not prevalent. It was not until the
sixteenth century, with Bernard Palissy, that we gained the first
coherent description of the water cycle.

BotanyProgress in botany at the time of Muhammad (S) was not advanced
enough in any country for scientists to know that plants have both male
and female parts. Today we know that fruit comes from plants that have
sexual characteristics even when they come from unfertilized flowers,
like bananas

Physiology  . One thousand years before the discovery of the blood
circulatory system, and roughly thirteen centuries before it was
determined that the internal organs were nourished by the process of
digestive , a verse in the Qur^Òan described the source of the
constituents of milk, in conformity with scientific facts. This
biological process must be basically understood, if we are to understand
a verse in the Qur^Òan which has for many centuries given rise to
commentaries that were totally incomprehensible. This very precise
concept is the result of the discoveries made in the chemistry and
physiology of the digestive system over one thousand years after the time
of Prophet Muhammad (S).

ImplantationOnce the egg has been fertilized in the fallopian tube, it
descends to lodge itself inside the uterus. This process is called the
^Ñimplantation of the egg^Ò. Implantation is a result of the development
of villosities, which, like roots in the soil, draw nourishment from the
wall of the uterus and make the egg literally cling to the womb. The
process of implantation is appropriately described in several verses by
the word ^Ñalaq.

EmbryoThe evolution of the embryo inside the maternal uterus is only
briefly described, but the description is accurate, because the simple
words referring to it correspond exactly to fundamental stages in its
growth. This is what we read in a verse from the chapter al-Mu^Òminoon:

^ÓI fashioned the clinging entity into a chewed lump of flesh and I
fashioned the chewed flesh into bones and I clothed the bones with intact
flesh.^Ô Qur^Òan, 23:14

The term ^Ñchewed flesh^Ò (mudghah) corresponds exactly to the appearance
of the embryo at a certain stage in its development.

It is known that the bones develop inside this mass and that they are
then covered with muscle. This is the meaning of the term ^Ñintact
flesh^Ò (lahm).

The embryo passes through a stage where some parts are in proportion and
others out of proportion with what is later to become the individual.
This is the obvious meaning of a verse in the chapter al-Hajj, which
reads as follows:

^ÓI fashioned (humans) a clinging entity, then into a lump of flesh in
proportion and out of proportion.^Ô Qur^Òan, 22:5.

Next, we have a reference to the appearance of the senses and internal
organs in the chapter as-Sajdah:

^Ó... and (God) gave you ears, eyes and hearts.^Ô Qur^Òan, 32:9

Nothing here contradicts today^Òs data and, furthermore, none of the
mistaken ideas of the time have crept into the Qur^Òan. The most
fundamental stage in the history of embryology came in 1651 with
Harvey^Òs statement that ^Óall life initially comes from an egg^Ô. At
that time, when science had benefited greatly from the invention of the
microscope, people were still arguing about the respective roles of the
egg and spermatozoon. Buffon, the great naturalist, was one of those in
favor of the egg theory.Bonnet, on the other hand, supported the theory
of ^Ñthe ovaries of Eve^Ò, which stated that Eve, the mother of the human
race, was-supposed to have had inside her the seeds of all human beings
packed together one inside the other.

As the Qur^Òan states: "Indeed the religion before Allah is Islam" . . .
"Whoever wishes for a way of life other that Islam, never will it be
accepted from them and in the hereafter they will be amongst the losers"
(Surah Al Imraan 3:85)

Scientists are realizing now that the universe could not have come into
being without a Creator.

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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:17:54 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: plzzzzzzzzzzzzz do readdd my maill and plzzzzzzzzzzz do replyyy

gôô©hëëë wrote:
>
> Scientists are realizing now that the universe could not have come into
> being without a Creator.

	First it is important to differentiate between religious belief and
Science.  While one can `believe' just about anything, scientific conclusions
are based on a rigorous process whereby hypotheses (ideas about how things
work) are posed and tested against observations.  This is usually based on an
empirical process of gathering observations or making measurements under a
known set of natural or experimental conditions.

	Religion involves acceptance on blind faith, for an established belief
system, things which can not be questioned and which are not subject to
revision or change.  Religion's operating principles are usually declared by
someone claiming to be of a higher authority, and the ideas of this so-called
`higher authority' are blindly accepted by the believer on the basis of faith
alone.  If one is having trouble with Science, the alternative is to define
another hypothesis and to test it by collecting additional observations.  If
one is having problems believing a religious tenet, the only alternative is to
abandon that system of belief, and study Science.  From these statements, it
should become obvious that Science and religion operate on a fundamentally
different basis, ergo, Scientists typically _do_not_ believe in creation.

James

Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 03:05:19 +0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:



thankyou for the reply James but i still dont understand this antichrist
<. i mean how is it possible for one not to blieve in god?


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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:35:18 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

"gôô©hëëë goocheee" wrote:
>
> thankyou for the reply James but i still dont understand this antichrist <.
> i mean how is it possible for one not to blieve in god?

	How is it possible _TO_ believe in god(s)?

"I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some
thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But as much as I want
to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural  traditions
that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than
wishful thinking." -Carl Sagan

James

Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:15:22 -0500
From: Frederick-Fourth Apostle to the Antichrist <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: The Case Against Christ (Not some floozy Chrisitan hate  mail)

At 10:24 PM 3/3/03 -0600, you wrote:
>To the three apostles, Haydn, Timothy, and Frederick,
>
>    Generally, I'm sure many people would start out with "calling
> yourselves apostles is blasphemy". However, I don't care, I think it's
> great what you guys are doing.


I am glad someone really appreciates the time we've invested into this
site.  If you have read through my site (Frederick) you will notice that it
is not entirely devoted to religion.  What really concerns me is the
promotion of applying illogical thinking to everything outside the realm of
the religious by religious fundamentalist groups.  I see no difference
between those who bomb abortion clinics and those who bombed the trade
center.  I don't care what god(s) they worship.  What appalls me is the
fact that people still commit atrocious acts in the name of an "all-loving"
god, period.  My main concern really is maintaining the separation between
church and state and the promotion of logic when adopting policies that our
country is to implement.  Originally, this site was a "performance work of
art" that outlived its original purpose.  However, the domain name is to
valuable to discard.  So, in the meantime it has been put to use as a more
serious forum.

>  At any rate, I am a member of a pentecostal youth group in Lathrop,
> Missouri. We are conducting a study on "The Case for Christ", a book
> meant to help us "defend our faith". However, I have really gotten tired
> of the whole dogma, because the book (though claiming to be perfectly
> open-minded in its investigation) was horridly biased, and gave little
> information supporting anti-christian points. I was wondering if perhaps
> the 3 of your could provide me with the scientific explanations on why
> you believe Christ did not exist.

First of all, we have to examine what you mean here by Christ in my
case.  I DO believe that a person named Jesus (actually likely pronounced
'Yeshuas', existed.  I have a friend who was raised Jewish and knows
Hebrew.  He says there is no phonetic equivalent for an American english
"J" as employed when pronouncing Jesus in Hebrew) that was convicted and
crucified under Roman law.  His Hebrew name was obviously Latinized, but
the mere lack of supporting historical works from the period other than the
New Testament, which is a REDACTION much like Norse mythology was handed
down word of mouth then recorded, is what makes me NOT believe he was the
Christ or "annointed one" of Hebrew legends.  Furthermore, I don't believe
modern urban legends.  Why should I believe one that is several thousand
years old?

>Our leader has elected we actually do a trial every Wednesday night.

It's funny that you wrote this.  Just the other night I was discussing with
James about electing a leader among the ranks of the Apostles to hold the
high office Antichrist for a six month term, as we are pro-democracy at
Antichrist.net.  hahaha.  We need a few more apostles to do this though.

>I, being the kind of person that questions everything that is commonly
>believed or taught, thus I was chosen to be the head prosecutor.

That questioning attitude is what James meant when he said that most people
are atheist by age 5-10.  It's an inborn proclivity for seeking truth that
forms atheists.  It can be honed as an adult, but the original tendency is
not something that would likely be taught.

>I've found only minimal amounts of information, but it seems to me the
>Christian world has ways of hiding things that are the truth. You three,
>being apostles of what is slowly convincing me to be the truth, can help
>me. You know why christianity is wrong, and can give me the answers.

My friend, I don't think I could give you any better reason besides what
you just stated as to why I don't like the Christian religion.  Also,
Christianity is not the only mass movement that has ways of hiding
truths.  Extrapolate that thinking and you will see much more what my
section of the site is about.  True concern for one's fellow human
(morality)  is driven by empathy.  It does NOT begin by blindly following
rules (10 commandments.)   I am of the opinion that children generally
possess the ability to do this at a young age (inherited trait),
too.  Although nurturing is required to have it mature.

>  Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Much of
> this is so convincing that if fully converted to the faith of Science...
> I would be very interested in becoming an apostle. You would have the
> John to your James, as it were.
>
>       Thanks to all of you, looking forward to a reply,
>
>                                     John

I appreciate your sincere interest in our opinions.  Most people that write
are disgruntled youth or religious zealots who would stone us to death if
given the chance.  Your email has been refreshing.

Frederick - Fourth Apostle to the Antichrist


Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:27:17 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: From me = )

     Hi again.  I was thinking (contrary to popular beleif, I do that a lot)
and a question popped into my mind.  What *is* your full name?  You don't
need to answer me if you don't want to.  I was just wondering, bye!


     -Jason [removed] [removed]

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Editor's note: Anyone who is clever can deduce my full name from this
               website, all the information you need is contained herein.


Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:04:02 -0800
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: antichrist.net

What happened to that guy David from Las Vegas who put together the
original Antichrist.net site?  I used to visit it fairly regularly (back
in 97-98), and then he took it down, and then put up some kind of site
for his effects company in Vegas.  I kind of got the impression that the
original site was some kind of very elaborate joke with no punch line
after that.  I don't notice any references to David on the new site, is
he still involved with it?

Thanks,
    Mike


Editor's note: I make several references to David's final treatise, which
               is available here.  http://www.antichrist.net/david.html


Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:11:21 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: umm ok? LOL

You guys are such a joke! LOL  Why don't ya grow up a little, step out
into the "real world"
maybe read a few history books for a change,  and in general CHILL!
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:48:47 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

Too sad your living in a fantasy world. My Bible
says we are to ask forgiveness for our sins.
Now if your saying you are perfect and don't sin
let me prove you wrong again. Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen?
I could go on and on. According to the worlds standard your a
lying theif that dont sound like a good decent person to me. The only
thing wrong with the perfect world you poetray is that it doesn't exsist
and won't until Christ returns.
To learn the truth go to drdino.com if you
dare.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:53:10 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

to sum it up in the words you hve used
whatever James you and your tabloid science.
whatever floats your boat i say I say your boat is going to crash and
burn one day.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:29:18 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

if God is not real why are you atheist so
intimidated by him? If God is not real why
do you want christians to denounce him?
Did you know the world is only about 6000
years old not billions like science says.
did you know dinosaurs still exist,
drdino.com

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:54:04 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: letter of concern

 hi, my name is omegastart this is a comment to amyie. i understand why
you believe that there is no God. You can't touch him and you can't see
him but have you ever thought about if there was a God.i know that you
don't believe in him but i do . I can't see him but i can feel him. When
i was depressed and i thought about killing myself he was the only one
that made me feel like i had something to live for. I don't know
what happened to you to make you not believe in God, but i will pray that
you change your mind. Even tho you don't believe in God i don't hate you
for it and i don't put you down for it, thats what you believe. We
are all entitled to our own options. I also hope that you don't look at
all Christians like a hippocrite because all are not. Love www.
omegastart.yahoo

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:33:32 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> Too sad your living in a fantasy world. My Bible
> says we are to ask forgiveness for our sins.

	My _conscience_ says, "Don't sin in the first place!"  Thus, if I keep
myself in check, and don't sin in the first place, I don't need forgiveness.

> Now if your saying you are perfect and don't sin
> let me prove you wrong again. Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen?

	I am not without sin, I like to get drunk, and sometimes use illegal
drugs, however I am _very_ careful how I do these things so as not to hurt
others.  As you have seen, I am conscientious on this website, I am like that
in life as well.  I have lied, and I have stolen, but not since I was a young
child.  I learned the consequences of lying and stealing, thus I stopped.  I
didn't need a fictional boogie man (god's wrath) to scare me straight.

> I could go on and on. According to the worlds standard your a
> lying theif that dont sound like a good decent person to me.

	And what is your foundation for these claims?  I'd venture to say that
if `society' was asked to put it to a vote, they'd vote to keep me and not you.
It appears that while I actually do good works in this world, all you do is
spread your thought virus (christianity) and potentially make other people as
mentally sick as you.  This is not considered `good works' by most people.

> The only
> thing wrong with the perfect world you poetray is that it doesn't exsist
> and won't until Christ returns.

	It will exist if we truly _want_ it to.  However, it may require harsh
measures.  For example, the gardener weeds his garden, society must also `weed
the gene pool'.  It has been my observation (and I'm sure everyone reading this
message will agree from their own observations) that grade school bullies have
all grown up to be evil young adults.  The minor harm they performed as
children on the grade school playground INCREASED in severity with their age.
Some of the bullies I grew up with, I was able to keep track of.  As they
matured, the level of evil they performed increased until ultimately, they were
placed in prison.  Now, the Scientist (or even the gardener) would agree, that
if the children seen behaving like this at the grade school level were `removed
from society', be that by euthanasia or segregation (imprisonment) this world
WOULD be a much better place!  Remember folks, what I just said IS politically
incorrect, but you ARE quietly in agreement, don't you ever forget that!

	Also, keep in mind that there are only rare cases where someone is good
all their life, then suddenly turn evil.  In the overwhelming majority of
cases, the perpetrators of evil `have a rap sheet as long as your arm'.  These
records almost universally show that minor acts of evil escalate until the
perpetrator ends up in prison.  One could _easily_ design a protocol for
selecting early, these "bad seeds" prior to them committing those detrimental
and ofttimes violent acts upon the innocents which results in prison.

> To learn the truth go to drdino.com if you
> dare.

	I don't waste my time with pseudo-science.  This so-called `creation
science' is bunk, and has been proven to be bunk by Scientific methods.  See my
previous message to "gôô©hëëë" to understand the difference between the
protocols of religion and Science.

James

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:26:13 -0800 (GMT)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: hi there

I applaud you for your hate and contempt for the Christian faith. If I had
my way, I would have every Christian shot, starting with my own mother!
F*ck Jesus, the plague of mankind and all of his simple minded rotten
disgusting followers. If there is a God, he better not come back down to
this world or we will drag him through the desert with a Ford Bronco until
his lifeless corpse lays bleeding in the mud and then we can
simultaneously pee on him drowning him in our urine stinking filth! I am
the Antichrist and I don't give a s*it what the f*ck happens as long as
Christianity is snuffed out from the earth like the vile disease that it
is. Everyone I know is a f*cking Christian and I just grit my teeth and
bare it i silence. What else can I do? Just hearing some idiot say the
word God or Jesus or Jehova makes me want to pour a can of gasoline over
my head and light a cigarette, and I don't even smoke! I could go on, but
what's the point? We'll never get rid of those skum-sucking pig
Christians! I just wish that Anton Levey was still here to lead us into
our final damnation!

Thank you for everything,

VAPS

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:17:33 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> if God is not real why are you atheist so
> intimidated by him? If God is not real why
> do you want christians to denounce him?

	We denounce god(s) for the same reason you as an adult no longer
believe in, nor propagate the myth of Santa Clause.  An adult that believes in
Santa is silly to you, and you are embarrassed to think another adult human
being could be so silly.  That's how you christians appear to us.

> Did you know the world is only about 6000
> years old not billions like science says.

	Explain where lead came from then?  Uranium decays into lead, but only
after millions of years.  Radioactive decay is the principle method for gauging
the age of antiquities.  Radioactive decay is GOOD SCIENCE!

> did you know dinosaurs still exist,
> drdino.com

	Without reading that website, let me tell you what happened to the
dinosaurs.  The larger ones were made extinct, probably by a major meteoric
impact that caused massive global changes.  The smaller ones survived because
they could live off the decay of those who perished.  Scavengers that were in
existence back then are still around today, they were best suited to survive.
Examples are crocodiles, sharks, lizards, and so on.  Reptiles do not evolve
very fast because they have stable DNA, whereas man is the most evolving (you
can see major changes in human development in just the 150 years since
photography was invented).  The upside of this, man is the most evolved, and
the most intelligent.  The down side, man has the most complex DNA, and is
subject to cancers (mutations) at a much higher rate than reptiles.  Certain
subspecies of reptiles were able to mutate at a more rapid pace, and they
became the birds we see today.  So if you want to see what happened to the
dinosaurs, just look at any bird, the reptilian qualities are still present.

	Note; some pseudo-scientific evidence is shown that since sharks do not
ever get cancer, that eating their cartilage will somehow prevent cancer in man.
The reason why sharks don't get cancer (mutations) is due to the fact their DNA
is stable, and has not appreciably changed in millions of years.  Cancer (and
birth defects) are the price we pay for being the most evolved species.

James

Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:36:12 -0500
From: Tequila Mockingbird
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: That Jeff guy...

Hello James

Anyways... I keep looking through the Motherload 3 section, and obviously
the name Jeff keeps popping up repeatedly... and... just a few things to
say...

Does this guy have ANYTHING else to do? Everything he's saying is
incredibly redundant, yet he keeps stating the same things... over and
over... in many, many emails. Does he have a job, or something? It seems
that he spends all day trying to prove you that God is real... Kinda
sad...

Also, he seems to think that Christians will be on his side... I've seen
many emails from Christians at antichrist.net, and I think the majority
of non-death threads specifically state their disliking of people like
Jeff. Those who just say you're going to hell, and all that... Wouldn't
that imply that the majority of good christians aren't on Jeff's side? It
seems that they are more supportive of you!

And more on redundancy... Trying desperately to convince a webmaster of
something called antichrist.net that God is real is just plain
ridiculous... Quoting bible verses and insulting you and other atheists
is supposed to make you believe in God? Well, it's an INTERESTING
approach...

Anyways, Jeff seemed to want to get feedback on his blatherings, so I
though i'd oblidge!

Mike

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:50:45 EST
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: (no subject)

I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD KEEP THERE BELIEFS AND OPINIONS TO THEM
SELF'S AND NOT FORCE ANY ONE TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY DO. THIS HAS BEEN THE
PROBLEM WHE HAVE HAD SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. I THINK ATHEISTS ARE
JUST AS BAD AS CHRISTIANS IN TRYING TO JUDGE THE OTHER ONE. AND TRYING TO
CHANGE THE BELIEVES OF OTHERS I KNOW THAT IM ONLY 17 AND I DON'T REALLY
KNOW MUCH OF ALL THE BELIEFS OF BOTH CHRISTIANS  AND ATHEIST ALIKE. BUT I
BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD FOLLOW THERE OWN PATH AND JUDGE FOR
themselves IN WHAT THEY HAVE DISCOVERED DURING THERE LIFE SPAN. NO ONE
REALLY KNOWS IF A GOD EXIST AND IT IS VERY HARD FOR ANY SIDE TO PROVE
WHETHER HE DOES OR DOESN'T EXIST. ITS BETTER NOT TO JUDGE ONE ANOTHER, OR
ATHEIST WIILL BECOME JUST AS BAD AS CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST
HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
I THANK U FOR LISTENING TO ME

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:27:51 -0500 (EST)
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: Your Foiled Propaganda!


This e-mail was originally meant for your first 'apostle' James, as I
would rather prefer it being forwarded.... as it pertains to his
comments of "The perfect respone to a Christian";


James = This is known as indoctrination technique, it is used by all
cults to attain new members.  Only religions which practice this
offensive technique of forcing their will upon others have survived (as
logically only those should) while benign religions which do NOT impose
their will under penalty of the sword, fear of suffering in some kind of
hell, or whatever have died out (as have the benign religions such as
the wiccans, and pagans).....

Legion = At least you are honest, and openly admit to your internet
propaganda, and use this very tactic to fuel your fire. The only part
that is indeed bothersome to many, is the recruiting of young kids.
This, in itself, is really not necessary.

James =  BTW, I do listen, and I do care, and I have been told that I am
"christ-like" by more than one person who knows me personally.  Unlike
you christians, I am free of hate, tho I do feel frustration
sometimes.  ;o)

Legion = If people consider you "Christ-like", and you do not object....
since you openly admit to 'caring', then how can you be an "antichrist"?
That's a contradiction, James. If you are disgusted with what the Romas
did to the Gospels, this is one thing....  but why do you deter young
kids from God? They cannot decipher what is right, nor what is wrong,
James.... and the only reason why they are interested, is because
society wants them to be. They think it's 'cool', which, to me, is
useless, even when you choose either way........

James = Prophecies are often subjective and misinterpreted.

Legion = Agreed

James = Miracles happen to me too, only I wonder at the amazing
properties of "life" not fictitious gods.

Legion = This ultimately depends on what your depiction of a 'God'
really is. You openly criticize the Christian church, and yet, you
always seem to categorize "God" from their translations. You must agree
that life is a little 'too' perfect to be started by nobody, as you
yourself admit to 'miracle happenings'.... that simply can't be
coincidental to you, could it?.

James = The bible speaks of a lot of things that make absolutely no
sense unless you go _way_ out on a limb with your "interpretations". 

Legion = Prophecy was spoken by people who could not decipher what they
had seen. They explained everything that they bore witness to the best
way they could.

James = Jules Verne prophesied in his fictional tales, with incredible
accuracy, how life would be today.  So did Arthur C. Clarke when he
wrote about global communications satellites WAY before sputnik was ever
launched. 

Legion = Anyone with common sense, and two eyes to see.... can predict
fragments of the future, as this is why the stock brokers of today get
paid what they do. If you ponder the future, based on the present, it
wouldn't be that hard, would it?

James = These men were visionaries, they were NOT gods. 

Legion = Nobody is claiming the disciples as Gods, if this is what your
are referring to....

James = The same may hold true, but to a far lesser extent for your
favorite work of fiction, the christian bible, tho it is poorly written.

Legion = Poorly written <smile>? I am surprised at you James! These men
were not out to win the pulitzer....

James = Pillars of smoke, rise into the heavens (what we now know to be
outer space)?  One interpretation could be nuclear bombs exploding. 
Another could be a forest fire which also produced pillars of smoke
rising high into the stratosphere, and along with it blood and death of
everything in its path.

Legion = The beauty of "Revelations", is that it is written in
uncertainty. You say that it is poorly written, but, has it ever occured
to you that it was written in this manner for a purpose?

James = Interpretation of scripture is subjective, and as all things
subjective, can be manipulated to suit ANY particular purpose,
especially if you ignore the parts that don't fit, and concentrate on
the parts that do.

Legion = Subjective? Did not all 'earthly' things in this world begin in
subjectivity?

James = If the EU forms a conjoined army, they will not call it the
"Roman" army, it will be the EU Army or something similar.

Legion = Speculation, or, as you would say..... subjective.

James = Did we have seismography back 300 years ago? 

Legion = Seismography? This is just terminology, James. It's always been
there, it was simply not a system.... until now of course, as is
everything, including religion.

James = Do you know why today people freak out over a few parts per
BILLION of lead in their water, when just 10 years ago it was
undetectable, because our technology at that point only could detect
down to parts per MILLION? 

Legion = Does this really concern you James? Understand, as I'm sure you
do, that nobody lives forever.... so why are you so concerned with the
preservation with something that is destined to die?

James = We detect more earthquakes as the equipment used to detect them
is improving year by year.  You are failing to understand the
Principia Scientia, as do all religionists.

Legion = No, it is you who fail to see that the true believers of the
'divine' (or God) are well versed in science. Just because you quote
Christians who are stuck in religious babble.... does not mean that
there are those of us who truly believe in Chirst that aren't fluent in
science. To quote a Christian scientist.... "Saying that there is no God
(or creator) is the most un-scientific thing a scientist could say"...

James = You only know of more terrorism because the "world has gotten
smaller" thanks to global communications. 

Legion = Wordly commerce, this indeed was well prophecised by St. John,
who, at that time..... had no idea what he was seeing.

James = When I was a kid, we knew nothing of the Soviet Union, but today
I see news from the Russian Federation daily (on the web).

Legion = The Soviet Union, as all other seperations of man.... are just
names. We all derived from somewhere, and someone, did we not? In the
beginning, people were of one country, Israel. Then, people broke up
into tribes. Now, the world is coming full circle. Television, and
Internet access, were also well prophecised by the book.

James = Just because we have access to more information does not mean
that terrorism, or warfare is any greater today than it always has been.

Legion = All it means, is that it is now a great deal easier to justify
war.

James = Again, prophecies are subjective, I'm sure I can interpret them
with equal accuracy to prove something completely different.

Legion = What isn't subjective?

James = The chip is not going to be embedded in the hand, where it can
be broken.  "The Chip" or "biochip" as some call it is not new. 
Biometric tags (as we scientists call them) have been around for years,

Legion = If you cannot see the prophecy in this, then you simply close
your eyes. This was written in 100 AD, when they didn't even have decent
farming tools. Just because the 'chip' is not new to you.... does not
mean that it shouldn't be 'new' to someone who lived in the first
century.

James = I began using them with laboratory animals in the early
1980's.  Back then however, they were much larger and only contained a
unique identifier (serial number).  Later they would give the ID
number, and the body temperature.  Today they can hold vast amounts of
information, including complete medical history.

Legion = When you come to understand what Revelations meant, you will
understand that the 'antichrist' can be deciphered as a country.... and
not just one man. "Those who do not bare the mark of the beast, will not
be allowed to work". Don't you see the logic in this?

James  The optimum place to insert a biometric tag in a human would be
in inner upper arm, just below the armpit of either arm.  Very little
direct impact (which could break the glass capsule) occurs in that part
of the body.  That will be where they will be implanted as that is
where implants are placed today (glass birth control implants for
example). In laboratory animals, we used the neck.

Legion = I'm sure most facilities will purposely avoid the hand and the
forehead..... for the simple fact of prophecy, so it shouldn't be a
surprise to people if they place it elsewhere. In the beginning, it will
be optional..... but after some self perpetuated attacks on its own
country.... it will be mandatory!

James = "God" said there was a flood, that covered all the mountain
tops.  Where did that water recede to?  If both polar ice caps were
to melt, the oceans would rise 28cm, hardly enough to get your feet
wet!  :o)  Again I point out, there are many provable falsehoods in
the bible.
Legion = Provable? Thats a laugh. Can you honestly prove America landing
on the moon.... when Neil Armsrong has admitted that he will go to jail
if he speaks of his experience to journalists? It's all propaganda. If
you want to question someone, why not question your own government.....
instead of focusing on things that mean very little.

James = Shame on you!  Wishing ill will upon others is wrong!  I
don't wish bad things upon YOU!

Legion = You wish 'ill will' on Jesus Christ, do you not? So shame on
you!

James = Why do you christians always ask your god to SMITE YOUR ENEMIES,
when we atheists (and antichrists) wish only that we all just get along!

Legion = Thats funny..... coming from someone who collaborates with
scientific propaganda that actually BUILD the weapons of mass
destruction, so we can all 'just get along'. You are the problem, not
religion. You hypocrite!

James = I don't wish ill upon you, but I do have pity for you and your
black heart.

Legion = Black heart? Christians despise you, because you despise Jesus.
Just as you despise Christians, because they despise self proclamation.
You are a hypocrite.

James = I hope someday atheism smiles upon you and brings you true love,
which comes from true knowledge and understanding of our Universe.

Legion = You know absolutely nothing of this universe, if you know
nothing of whence you came. Sadly, the only universe atheism leads
to.... is the outer darkness, and the abyss. Which, to you, will indeed
be home..... but to Christians (not atheists), it is hell. Hell is
simply being away from God, so in essence, you yourself are not going to
hell.... you are simply going home.

James = BTW, what does your deity jesus say about wishing ill upon
others?  Given that, I'll save you a place in hell, right next to
me.  ;o)

Legion = Jesus wants his fold (not you in particular, James) to love his
brother like his own. This excludes you.... because you don't know love,
you  only have love for this earthly (and perishable) life. This is what
seperates you from the Christians. Don't you see, James. These people
write to you, because they care (despite what they write)..... they are
bothered FOR you, not because of you.

James = The only thing that "shows the light" is people such as yourself
who work as unpaid recruitment officers for the industry known as
religion.

Legion = You are a hypocrite, as you do the very same thing to fuel your
own cause..... do you not?

James = Prove it.  As a Scientist, I am _forced_ to prove everything,
yet nobody is forced in religion to prove any of it is true (because it
can only be proven false, so they don't try).

Legion = Truth is based on feeling, and cannot be proven. You rely on
methods that are apart of U.S. propaganda, and have nothing better to
do, but to try to disprove things. For instance, why question why man
and female are truly in need (attraction) for one another..... why not
just enjoy the time you have to express it. The same goes for life....
rather than trying to disprove what Jesus was teaching, why not just
embellish on it.... which is indeed love. Do you not love anyone James,
or maybe just yourself.

James = If heaven (what we know today to be outer space) exists, then
prove it to me.

Legion = First prove that the earth circles the sun. Don't quote
anything from NASA, but I want to hear your experience of seeing this
for yourself..... or is NASA's word good enough for you, and the Bible's
isn't? Get my point?

James = What about the Sumarian god Christa that jesus was based upon
when he was created (as a fictional character in the new testament by
Calpernius Piso)? If Christa came first, wouldn't he be the more optimum
god to worship?

Legion = What is worship, and what is God.... when you understand what
these words really mean, you will understand who Jesus really was. You
yourself worship, and serve your president. Christians LOVE, and believe
in God. There's a difference James, but you cannot see it.... because
you are not supposed to......

James = You find logic in that statement, because I don't. 

Legion = Yes.... just as Christians find repose in Jesus Christ, when
you can't!

James = What does the big bang (a supernova beyond anything we've ever
witnessed in the galaxy) have to do with natural gas (a product of
bacterial decay of dead plant life)?

Legion = What have you yourself witnessed James, or are you speaking on
behalf of your predecessors?

James = We didn't evolve FROM monkeys, or more accurately, from APES. 
WE ARE APES!  Man is just another fork off the several species of apes
that exist.

Legion = That is histerical James, its a pity that apes cannot
rationalize. So, enlighten me.... how then have we almost reached
perfection, and they didn't? Did we have access to special bananas?

James = The DNA in the Orangutan is so close to our own, that they are
our closest cousins in the ape world. 

Legion = And yet, men can speak, and they cannot, why? If this DNA (as
you call it) is so close, then why so great the distinction?

James = WE forked away from what ever the Orangutan and Man both came
from (some other form of primate), and so did the gorilla, and the
chimpanzee.  We are all very much similar, right down to our DNA.

Legion = If it is important for you to believe this, more power to ya.
LOL

James = Yup, and so do you, the flat earth has hell below it.  Your
bible says so, go read it!  Galileo was jailed because he contradicted
the bible by saying the earth revolved around the sun, not the other way
around!  I bet you feel pretty stupid right now (or will you do like
most christians and reject the parts of the bible that disagree with
your ability to believe)?

Legion = Prove everything that you are reiterating, instead of quoting
things from others. You cannot prove one thing that you state.... as
neither can the Christians.

James = That is true, all scientific principles are subject to
scrutiny.  However, I subject your RELIGION to scrutiny, and you get
upset, why?

Legion = Christians get upset FOR you, not because of you..... get over
yourself, as your words are only important to the 14 year old crowd you
are drawing in, nobody else....

James = Or in my opinion 100% dead wrong, because I interpret it
differently.

Legion = You interpret it, the way your father interprets it. You derive
from those who refuse God, as its no coincidence that you find no place
in the light, because there is no light in you. You are sons of
perdition.... but again, this is indeed good for you, but not to
Christians. You find sanctuary in darkness, hey..... whatever floats
your boat, right?       

James = Heaven is not where it is supposed to be, outer space is.  Of
course the sand dwellers that invented the Sumarian religion upon which
christianity is based had no way of knowing that.  Islam explains the
stars as "lanterns".

Legion = Yeah, and the point here?

James = I did not become an atheist without careful consideration.  I
examined the bible, and deemed it to be false, it's as simple as that.

Legion = Nobody is questioning why you became an atheist..... the reason
for the overflowing amout of e-mails was known ahead of time by you. You
knew this would happen, so you are fooling nobody. You like the
attention, as you realize that Christians will give an arguement.... so
to help your site gain recognition.

James = But Science changes with the times, the bible does not!  The
Catholics teach NOT to use a condom, which causes the spread of AIDS. 
Speaking of which, doesn't disease prove there is no god?  What kind
of god would create disease to plague his pets (us)?

Legion = YOU ARE A FOOL, James! You call yourself a scientist, that is
BULLSH*T, and you have just proved it for me! As a scientist, it is WELL
known that ALL disease come from vitamin defficiencies, as there IS NO
Cancer and/or AIDS! B-17, the vitamin that your precious earthly realm
has BANNED, is the cure for these 'plagues' you speak of! YOU ARE A
HYPOCRITE!

James = SCIENCE doesn't retract it, the FDA does!  One is founded upon
truth, the other is funded by campaign contributions.  If you give the
government enough money, the FDA will approve mercury as a dietary
supplement!

Legion = No, really? Money is the root to all evil, but I guess you
disagree with this, since it's found in the Bible that is.....

James = Drink what you require, just like any other animal on the
planet.  Drink water when you're thirsty, forcing water upon yourself
CAN'T be good!  You don't see any OTHER animal on earth drinking water
in excess.

Legion = True, but you also don't see every other animal consuming FAST
FOOD each and every day of the year! Water flushes the body..... you
should know this, being a scientist and all.

James = My philosophy is to eat when I'm hungry, drink water when I'm
thirsty, and so on.

Legion = Your philosophy is contradicting in nature, and is only good
for you..... as you are the only one who chooses to understand it. If
Christians believe in God, then why argue this? Why start a site devoted
to this..... if you "Eat when your hungry, drink when your thirsty.....
and so on". Why the passion with atheism? Why not just be? Why not
simply shut down? Because you are an opportunist, thats why.....

James = I am a professional research Scientist.  We have a term for
this, it's called "spontaneous remission".

Legion = Stop lying to your little audience, as you are nothing but a
wannabe scientist. Doctors use that term to explain Cancer
remission..... not scientists!

James = From my research with rats, one out of 10 controls (who receive
NO TREATMENT for the cancers they have) will spontaneously "heal" from
the cancer.  One could say two things, that 1 in 10 will get lucky and
the body will find a way to defeat the cancer, or god loves only 1 out
of 10 albino sprague dawley lab rats who are dying of cancer.
       
Legion = Rats huh? LMAO

James = Until you can show me a 100% cure rate with prayer, I'll reject
it.

Legion = You do not live forever James, accept it..... as everyone dies
from something! Cancer, old age..... and even boredom (in which I'm
about to die of right now in writing this e-mail).

James = And religion does not, it claims to be flawless, and
unquestionable!

Legion = Typical wannabe perfectionist! Are you implying that Science as
we know it can't be questioned...... when it changes DAILY????

James = Prayer = psychotherapy.  Happy thoughts can cure disease as
well as religion.  The body responds to the mind, thus depression
causes illness, and conversely, happiness causes health.

Legion = Science = ignorance! You believe what you are told, just as the
Christians do. You cannot prove any of it, its all here-say! NASA has
all the answers don't they..... its a pity they still can't figure out
how to keep a ship from crashing into the earth! My God..... how far
they've come! NASA = Need Another Seven Astronauts (why not try out,
James)?

Take Care......

(Apologies for any mistakes in grammar, way too tired to go back and
check)......

"Legion" of God's Angels


Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:27:46 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

I finally realize the world in which you live.
Actually it is more like a state the state of
confusion.
First you say you don't sin then you say you
are not without sin. You just stated a very
important fact probably the most truthful one
you have stated since our chats. The Bible
sates we are not without sin  good job.
What does Santa Claus have to do as to why
you are intimidated by God. You gonna say
you never believed in Santa has a child bet you
didn't think it was silly. You know what is beyond silly thnking that
Julius Caesar was
Jesus Christ.
You talk about christianity as a crutch and
christians not exhibiting a high mentality  I
would not go around claiming to have mental
capabilities and say there was no God.
The reason you say drdino.com is bunk is
because he knows more than you. The man use to  be atheist until he
realized how wrong he was. You dont like it because you are afraid to be
proven wrong

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:10:53 -0600 (CST)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: forever

what is a man? that he thinks he knows? for a  man's mind is but a
polygon and infinity is the circle no matter how many sides the polygon
has it will never become a circle.

     Infinity is just on the othe rside of the vanishing point of your
vision. It is not seen but experienced, it is the step out on the water.
Infinity is the new place that is forever new, that can only be reached
from looking inside yourself.

       who are you; The Void, or The Light.

    Salem

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:44:22 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Listen up

You really have no right calling Christians idiots first off, you said
you don't hate, then why are you cutting down the people that don't want
to be burning in an eternal flame forever. When I came across your
website me and my brother were simply looking for random websites and
decided to type in your address as a joke. If you want to go to hell so
bad why don't you kill yourself and take both me and you out of your so
called "miserable life." Go ahead post this up on your idiots Christians
page, oh yeah I forgot you wouldn't and won't because you know that I'm
smarter than your God-free mind and that this would put the faith of God
into all of your physcos that come to your website. I can't believe that
you are hating on the creator that made you, its simply unbelievable. I'm
just going to point and laugh at you when you're enjoying your eternal
damnation in Hell. And notice, yes I'm a nice person, I didn't cuss you,
I tried to help you out and try to make you stop making yourself look
like a complete blind fool. It seems like your whole point of life is to
be depressed, like with the music on your homepage, its trying to sound
all sad and stuff. I bet if I really got to know you I would disapprove
of you even more and realize that you really don't have that much to
complain about. You're the kind of kids that go to my school that are
gothic and stuff and act all depressed when they really live in like a
$10,000,000 mansion. I know you're not too bad off, or otherwise you
wouldn't have a website with no pop-up ads or banner ads on it. You must
have a lot of money to invest in turning yourself into a freak. And I
read that message that girl named Danielle sent you, I honestly believe
that if she took a step back and realized that the Bible doesn't
contridict itself then she would understand where everything is coming
from. And the comment on Adamn and Eve, my answer to that is if that
didn't happen then what do you think happened? We evolved? Even if we did
we had to be created in the first place even if we were just some
organizm that was microscopic. Who made that? The answer would be and
always will be God. You're looking tough and bad when you say you don't
believe in God, you're only looking idiotic. So do me and yourself a
favor, stop with the "Screw the world" image. It might work with your
mother and father, or maybe even your girlfriend if you're lucky enough
to have one. But I'm above that, it doesn't work for me. No one has it
bad enough to lose faith in God. I don't hate you, hate is against God's
law, however I do know for a fact you're going to rot in Hell for the
rest of eternity. So do us all and a favor and kill yourself now, you can
be the antichrist you always wanted to be if you do. Have fun. And I know
for a fact you won't put this email on your website because it proves you
wrong too much. Please write back I'd love to hear your comments. God
bless and hopefully have mercry on your soul. Peace.

-DL aka JTrig

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:36:36 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Your Foiled Propaganda!

Legion wrote:
>
> This e-mail was originally meant for your first 'apostle' James, as I
> would rather prefer it being forwarded.... as it pertains to his
> comments of "The perfect respone to a Christian";
>
> James = This is known as indoctrination technique, it is used by all
> cults to attain new members
>
> Legion = At least you are honest, and openly admit to your internet
> propaganda, and use this very tactic to fuel your fire. The only part
> that is indeed bothersome to many, is the recruiting of young kids.
> This, in itself, is really not necessary.

	You missed my point, indoctrination technique is not used by me,
nowhere on my website do you see my threats that you will burn in hell (except
from the christians directed towards ME) or that any ill will come to you
UNLESS you accept Science as you personal savior.  Of course, this is true,
because if you become ill due to infection you will often REQUIRE Science to be
your savior (antibiotics and the like) but I don't use it as a threat.  I only
propose the logical hypothesis that there is no indication that gods are
anything more than the work of man, and of mans fantasies.

> James =  BTW, I do listen, and I do care, and I have been told that I am
> "christ-like" by more than one person
>
> Legion = If people consider you "Christ-like", and you do not object....
> since you openly admit to 'caring', then how can you be an "antichrist"?

	I am an antichrist because the bible in 1John4:3 says I am.  This is
the term that the christians know me by.  Personally, I prefer "atheist".

> That's a contradiction, James.

	I may be christ-like (similar to the persona) but I am antichrist
because of the aforementioned bible passage.  I'm sorry you don't understand.

> If you are disgusted with what the Romas
> did to the Gospels, this is one thing....  but why do you deter young
> kids from God?

	I try to encourage the use and application of Science.  The byproduct
of which is skepticism, and the loss of the belief in things that are not real
(such as gods, demons, elves, fairies, sprites, witches, monsters, and so
forth).

> They cannot decipher what is right, nor what is wrong,
> James.... and the only reason why they are interested, is because
> society wants them to be. They think it's 'cool', which, to me, is
> useless, even when you choose either way........

	You should give children more credit, I do.  They are obviously capable
of far more than you assume they are.  ;o)

> James = Miracles happen to me too, only I wonder at the amazing
> properties of "life" not fictitious gods.
>
> Legion = This ultimately depends on what your depiction of a 'God'
> really is. You openly criticize the Christian church, and yet, you
> always seem to categorize "God" from their translations. You must agree
> that life is a little 'too' perfect to be started by nobody, as you
> yourself admit to 'miracle happenings'.... that simply can't be
> coincidental to you, could it?.

	It's a little too simplistic to say that everything YOU don't fully
understand is the `work of gods'.  The "god" I translate is the most common god
of the visitors to my site (the christian god).  I have studied many gods, not
all five thousand known in historical documents, but many of them.  It would be
pointless to argue the fallacy of Zeus in a predominantly christian society.

> James = The bible speaks of a lot of things that make absolutely no
> sense unless you go _way_ out on a limb with your "interpretations".
>
> Legion = Prophecy was spoken by people who could not decipher what they
> had seen. They explained everything that they bore witness to the best
> way they could.

	They were hallucinating, either on drugs, or because they were
schizophrenic.  Indications are, based upon what I've read, the bible prophets
were _all_ schizophrenics.  Since schizophrenia was not understood in that
time, the normals assumed they really were talking to god.  Charley manson
"channels god" all the time, but today _we_ don't accept that as truth.  So in
conclusion, the indications are that characters like moses were simply schizoids.

> James = Do you know why today people freak out over a few parts per
> BILLION of lead in their water, when just 10 years ago it was
> undetectable, because our technology at that point only could detect
> down to parts per MILLION?
>
> Legion = Does this really concern you James? Understand, as I'm sure you
> do, that nobody lives forever.... so why are you so concerned with the
> preservation with something that is destined to die?

	Woosh!  My point flew completely over your head!  I was pointing out
that when lead could only be detected down to parts per million, the water
`contained no lead' whereas today, detecting down to parts per BILLION, the
water most assuredly has for example 100 ppb of lead.  People assume it wasn't
there before, and that when the ability to detect it came about, SUDDENLY IT
APPEARED.  The original message made point that we are having more earthquakes
today, my point is that we are able to detect better WHAT WAS ALWAYS THERE.

> James = We detect more earthquakes as the equipment used to detect them
> is improving year by year.  You are failing to understand the
> Principia Scientia, as do all religionists.
>
> Legion = No, it is you who fail to see that the true believers of the
> 'divine' (or God) are well versed in science. Just because you quote
> Christians who are stuck in religious babble.... does not mean that
> there are those of us who truly believe in Chirst that aren't fluent in
> science. To quote a Christian scientist.... "Saying that there is no God
> (or creator) is the most un-scientific thing a scientist could say"...

	Saying that there IS is also the most un-scientific thing you could
say.  The proper Scientist (myself included) simply says this.  There is
absolutely no evidence or indication that god(s) are anything more than fantasy.

> James = When I was a kid, we knew nothing of the Soviet Union, but today
> I see news from the Russian Federation daily (on the web).
>
> Legion = The Soviet Union, as all other seperations of man.... are just
> names. We all derived from somewhere, and someone, did we not? In the
> beginning, people were of one country, Israel. Then, people broke up
> into tribes. Now, the world is coming full circle. Television, and
> Internet access, were also well prophecised by the book.

	If there was only one tribe, Israel, where did the Chinese come from
then?  They have recorded history going back thousands of years BEFORE the
middle eastern religions, and they record NONE of the things the bible shows
(such as the flood of the earth which would have surely wiped them out).
Legion, you seem like an intelligent fellow, this fact alone proves the bible
is fiction, don't you agree?

> James = The chip is not going to be embedded in the hand, where it can
> be broken.  "The Chip" or "biochip" as some call it is not new.
> Biometric tags (as we scientists call them) have been around for years,
>
> Legion = If you cannot see the prophecy in this, then you simply close
> your eyes. This was written in 100 AD, when they didn't even have decent
> farming tools. Just because the 'chip' is not new to you.... does not
> mean that it shouldn't be 'new' to someone who lived in the first
> century.

	The mark was in the hand or the forehead.  They branded slaves back
then you know.  I bet that's the actual reference.  Nothing in the bible describes
electronically scannable biochips unless you LIBERALLY interpret the bible.

> James = I began using them with laboratory animals in the early
> 1980's.  Back then however, they were much larger and only contained a
> unique identifier (serial number).  Later they would give the ID
> number, and the body temperature.  Today they can hold vast amounts of
> information, including complete medical history.
>
> Legion = When you come to understand what Revelations meant, you will
> understand that the 'antichrist' can be deciphered as a country.... and
> not just one man. "Those who do not bare the mark of the beast, will not
> be allowed to work". Don't you see the logic in this?

	Ok, without a social security number, you can NOT WORK!  The mark of
the beast is already with us by your definition (not the biochip).  Why aren't
people freaking out about the social security card then?

> James  The optimum place to insert a biometric tag in a human would be
> in inner upper arm, just below the armpit of either arm.
>
> Legion = I'm sure most facilities will purposely avoid the hand and the
> forehead..... for the simple fact of prophecy, so it shouldn't be a
> surprise to people if they place it elsewhere.

	In the hand it will be subject to breakage.  In the forehead it will
cause an ugly scar-like bump under the skin, also subject to breakage.  The
only practical spot for the chip is in the inner upper arm or groin areas.  The
insertion point _needs_ to be the area least subject to physical trauma.
Unless you can guarantee noboby will ever bump their forehead or smack their
hand, you are illogical in your reasonings why it will not be placed there.

> In the beginning, it will
> be optional..... but after some self perpetuated attacks on its own
> country.... it will be mandatory!

	I agree the occupational government here in the USA wants to tag and
control us, I'm totally in agreement with you on that.  HOWEVER, you must
remember that the more complicated they make the security systems, the easier
it becomes to defeat them.  So when they implant a chip in me, I'll take it
back out, and figure out how it works, build a pocket sized replacement chip
device that gives out bogus information (perhaps the ID of a federal agent with
massive clearance) and be left alone by the federalis.  What YOU do is up to
you.  I suppose you're already aware of Patriot act II which will strip our
final remaining Constitutional rights, making us totally PROPERTY OF THE NEW
WORLD ORDER and subject to arrest and detention on suspicion alone and
subject to imprisonment without trial.

> James = "God" said there was a flood, that covered all the mountain
> tops.  Where did that water recede to?  If both polar ice caps were
> to melt, the oceans would rise 28cm, hardly enough to get your feet
> wet!  :o)  Again I point out, there are many provable falsehoods in
> the bible.
>
> Legion = Provable? Thats a laugh. Can you honestly prove America landing
> on the moon.... when Neil Armsrong has admitted that he will go to jail
> if he speaks of his experience to journalists? It's all propaganda. If
> you want to question someone, why not question your own government.....
> instead of focusing on things that mean very little.

	If we had NOT landed on the moon, the Russians would be very vocal
about it, and prove us to be fakers.  I personally pinged a 532nm YAG laser off
the retroreflector placed there by Apollo 11, so I have my proof.  I pointed
out earlier about the Chinese, not mentioned in the bible, existing and
recording history for thousands of years BEFORE the purported flood.  They
record no such flood.  They also record no such god as the middle-eastern one.

	Now as for the paradox with Armstrong.  Perhaps this is the scenario.
Perhaps he stayed home and three `expendable' men went to the moon, and if they
were killed a _fake_ moon landing would ensue.  That would explain the people
who said they made a fake moon base in a sound studio, and the weird way the
astronauts behave when directly asked questions.  Were my nations reputation on
the line, with the whole world watching, I think I would have had a back-up
plan myself, thus I believe this may be the actual events.

> James = Shame on you!  Wishing ill will upon others is wrong!  I
> don't wish bad things upon YOU!
>
> Legion = You wish 'ill will' on Jesus Christ, do you not? So shame on
> you!

	Jesus never existed, he was invented by Calpernius Piso.  Find one
place on my website where I wish ill upon that which does not exist?  You will
not.  You _assume_ by the domain name and the images on the site that I wish
ill upon that which does not and has never existed (jesus) but that's merely an
assumption.  Read more of the site, see that I am correct.  I defy you to find
ONE PLACE where I wish ill upon the character named jesus.

> James = Why do you christians always ask your god to SMITE YOUR ENEMIES,
> when we atheists (and antichrists) wish only that we all just get along!
>
> Legion = Thats funny..... coming from someone who collaborates with
> scientific propaganda that actually BUILD the weapons of mass
> destruction, so we can all 'just get along'. You are the problem, not
> religion. You hypocrite!

	I don't build weapons, as I mentioned earlier, one of the things I
build are adaptive technologies for the blind.  Not every Scientist is evil,
only a very small percentage build weapons of mass destruction, just as only a
small percentage of christians kill and eat people like the christian Dahmer did.

> James = I don't wish ill upon you, but I do have pity for you and your
> black heart.
>
> Legion = Black heart? Christians despise you, because you despise Jesus.

	I don't despise that which is not real.  Gods and jesus are myth.  The
story of jesus was plagiarized by Piso from the much older Persian religion
known as mithraism.  http://www.geocities.com/spenta_mainyu_2/mithras.htm

> Just as you despise Christians, because they despise self proclamation.
> You are a hypocrite.

	No, I am not a hypocrite, however _you_ are a fool.  :o)

> James = I hope someday atheism smiles upon you and brings you true love,
> which comes from true knowledge and understanding of our Universe.
>
> Legion = You know absolutely nothing of this universe, if you know
> nothing of whence you came. Sadly, the only universe atheism leads
> to.... is the outer darkness, and the abyss.

	Death is the ultimate goal of all of us.  The final moments may be made
more comfortable with the belief you will be transported magically to heaven,
however there is no indication that heaven is anything more than wishful thinking.

> Which, to you, will indeed
> be home..... but to Christians (not atheists), it is hell. Hell is
> simply being away from God, so in essence, you yourself are not going to
> hell.... you are simply going home.

	I will cease consciousness, I will be dead, I will go nowhere.

> James = BTW, what does your deity jesus say about wishing ill upon
> others?  Given that, I'll save you a place in hell, right next to
> me.  ;o)
>
> Legion = Jesus wants his fold (not you in particular, James) to love his
> brother like his own. This excludes you.... because you don't know love,

	I would never follow gods who command me with threats and reward me
with treats like a f*cking dog.  In fact, if gods really WERE real, I'd
probably hunt them down and kill them, for the very same reasons Roy killed his
creator in the movie Bladerunner.

> you  only have love for this earthly (and perishable) life. This is what
> seperates you from the Christians. Don't you see, James. These people
> write to you, because they care (despite what they write)..... they are
> bothered FOR you, not because of you.

	You are wasting the ONLY life you will ever have in the belief that you
will get something later that will never come.  You sir are a fool.  The reason
why they write to me is NOT because they care, but because the thought virus
infecting their mind is SELF-PROPAGATING, in that they MUST spread the
`disease' to others.  Piso wrote the virus to work that way, so that Rome would
always have an ample supply of slaves who would remain as loyal servants.

> James = The only thing that "shows the light" is people such as yourself
> who work as unpaid recruitment officers for the industry known as
> religion.
>
> Legion = You are a hypocrite, as you do the very same thing to fuel your
> own cause..... do you not?

	I do not.  I do not recruit atheists, I offer them only bleak sadness,
confusion, a little truth, and DEATH.  If they come, it's of their own
choosing.  Most people take the christian falsehoods of perpetual happiness,
all the answers (in one book, the bible), total truth (the lies in the bible)
and eternal life (another lie found in the bible).  People are weak, they
accept the lie because the truth is too horrible to stomach.  Life is moot, if
you can't handle this, then join a church.  ;o)

> James = Prove it.  As a Scientist, I am _forced_ to prove everything,
> yet nobody is forced in religion to prove any of it is true (because it
> can only be proven false, so they don't try).
>
> Legion = Truth is based on feeling, and cannot be proven.

	Try THAT one in a court of law!  ;o)  You are so silly.

> You rely on
> methods that are apart of U.S. propaganda, and have nothing better to
> do, but to try to disprove things. For instance, why question why man
> and female are truly in need (attraction) for one another..... why not
> just enjoy the time you have to express it.

	Mammals formed that way, worms are asexual.  Were we asexual, our
religious texts would reflect that as gods divine plan.  Evolution demands
diversity of genetics, and sexual reproduction is the way nature does it.

> The same goes for life....
> rather than trying to disprove what Jesus was teaching, why not just
> embellish on it.... which is indeed love. Do you not love anyone James,
> or maybe just yourself.

	Knowledge is torment (ignorance is bliss).  However, I was born with a
freakishly high IQ, so I'm stuck in the world of torment, so be it.  The
benefits DO outweigh the costs, but the price IS high.

> James = If heaven (what we know today to be outer space) exists, then
> prove it to me.
>
> Legion = First prove that the earth circles the sun. Don't quote
> anything from NASA, but I want to hear your experience of seeing this
> for yourself..... or is NASA's word good enough for you, and the Bible's
> isn't? Get my point?

	Galileo didn't go into space to "see" this, he proved it with
mathematics (trigonometry).  He was jailed for contradicting the bible.  Man
you sure are stupid Legion.  Perhaps that's why you champion a religion instead
of championing Science the way I do.  :o)  One needs Acumen to be a Scientist.

> James = You find logic in that statement, because I don't.
>
> Legion = Yes.... just as Christians find repose in Jesus Christ, when
> you can't!

	So jesus = teddy bear?  False, but comforting?

> James = We didn't evolve FROM monkeys, or more accurately, from APES.
> WE ARE APES!  Man is just another fork off the several species of apes
> that exist.
>
> Legion = That is histerical James, its a pity that apes cannot
> rationalize. So, enlighten me.... how then have we almost reached
> perfection, and they didn't? Did we have access to special bananas?

	Our DNA is more mutant than theirs, so we became what we are today.
Also, because we are more mutant, we are also more subject to cancer (1 in 10
get it) and birth defects than the animals with more stable DNA.  We are just a
fluke, the fact that a mostly hairless ape survives as we do is amazing in itself!

> James = The DNA in the Orangutan is so close to our own, that they are
> our closest cousins in the ape world.
>
> Legion = And yet, men can speak, and they cannot, why? If this DNA (as
> you call it) is so close, then why so great the distinction?

	They speak as well as a retarded human using sign language, so I guess
I just made you look foolish, sorry.  ;o)  I've watched Coco the gorilla say
"me go out" and "my kitty" which is equal to that of a tard.  And after
watching the behaviors (and facial features) of gorillas and negroes, I'd say
we are closer than you think!

> James = WE forked away from what ever the Orangutan and Man both came
> from (some other form of primate), and so did the gorilla, and the
> chimpanzee.  We are all very much similar, right down to our DNA.
>
> Legion = If it is important for you to believe this, more power to ya.
> LOL

	I don't believe, I accept it as truth.  If you don't, then you just
confirmed that ignorance is bliss and you choose happiness over truth.

> James = That is true, all scientific principles are subject to
> scrutiny.  However, I subject your RELIGION to scrutiny, and you get
> upset, why?
>
> Legion = Christians get upset FOR you, not because of you..... get over
> yourself, as your words are only important to the 14 year old crowd you
> are drawing in, nobody else....

	The `14 year old atheist' came to me AS an atheist.  I was atheist at
the age of 10.  Those capable (intelligent) are atheist, the rest pick a god
and go with the crowd.

> James = Or in my opinion 100% dead wrong, because I interpret it
> differently.
>
> Legion = You interpret it, the way your father interprets it. You derive
> from those who refuse God, as its no coincidence that you find no place
> in the light, because there is no light in you. You are sons of
> perdition.... but again, this is indeed good for you, but not to
> Christians. You find sanctuary in darkness, hey..... whatever floats
> your boat, right?

	I don't want my sanctuary to be darkness, or my future (death) to be
bleak, it just is, so I must learn to accept it.  I will NOT accept a white lie
(heaven) to make life more comfortable and my future artificially sweet.

> James = Heaven is not where it is supposed to be, outer space is.  Of
> course the sand dwellers that invented the Sumarian religion upon which
> christianity is based had no way of knowing that.  Islam explains the
> stars as "lanterns".
>
> Legion = Yeah, and the point here?

	The point is, religions are false, fictional, made up stories.  Period.

> James = I did not become an atheist without careful consideration.  I
> examined the bible, and deemed it to be false, it's as simple as that.
>
> Legion = Nobody is questioning why you became an atheist..... the reason
> for the overflowing amout of e-mails was known ahead of time by you. You
> knew this would happen, so you are fooling nobody. You like the
> attention, as you realize that Christians will give an arguement.... so
> to help your site gain recognition.

	No, I have better things to do with my time, but I try to be true to my
word and I said I'd answer everybody and I do, within reason.

> James = But Science changes with the times, the bible does not!  The
> Catholics teach NOT to use a condom, which causes the spread of AIDS.
> Speaking of which, doesn't disease prove there is no god?  What kind
> of god would create disease to plague his pets (us)?
>
> Legion = YOU ARE A FOOL, James! You call yourself a scientist, that is
> BULLSH*T, and you have just proved it for me! As a scientist, it is WELL
> known that ALL disease come from vitamin defficiencies, as there IS NO
> Cancer and/or AIDS! B-17, the vitamin that your precious earthly realm
> has BANNED, is the cure for these 'plagues' you speak of! YOU ARE A
> HYPOCRITE!

	Wow, look who just proved himself a fool.  Viruses are REAL, and if you
don't believe me, take your vitamins and inject yourself with aids contaminated
blood.  I bet you won't because deep inside YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT!

	All disease is caused by a failure of our autonomic immune system.
Once man figures out a way to custom program our own immune systems, disease
WILL become a thing of the past!

> James = SCIENCE doesn't retract it, the FDA does!  One is founded upon
> truth, the other is funded by campaign contributions.  If you give the
> government enough money, the FDA will approve mercury as a dietary
> supplement!
>
> Legion = No, really? Money is the root to all evil, but I guess you
> disagree with this, since it's found in the Bible that is.....

	No, I agree with it.  I hate money as much as I hate the greedy.

> James = Drink what you require, just like any other animal on the
> planet.  Drink water when you're thirsty, forcing water upon yourself
> CAN'T be good!  You don't see any OTHER animal on earth drinking water
> in excess.
>
> Legion = True, but you also don't see every other animal consuming FAST
> FOOD each and every day of the year! Water flushes the body..... you
> should know this, being a scientist and all.

	I don't eat junk, if you do, that's your choice.  So as a Scientist I
will agree with you, if you voluntarily take toxins into your body (and who
knows why anyone would) then chelation is the cure, flush it out with water.

> James = My philosophy is to eat when I'm hungry, drink water when I'm
> thirsty, and so on.
>
> Legion = Your philosophy is contradicting in nature, and is only good
> for you..... as you are the only one who chooses to understand it. If
> Christians believe in God, then why argue this? Why start a site devoted
> to this..... if you "Eat when your hungry, drink when your thirsty.....
> and so on". Why the passion with atheism? Why not just be? Why not
> simply shut down? Because you are an opportunist, thats why.....

	No, I am a Performance Artist, and you just walked into my trap!

> James = I am a professional research Scientist.  We have a term for
> this, it's called "spontaneous remission".
>
> Legion = Stop lying to your little audience, as you are nothing but a
> wannabe scientist. Doctors use that term to explain Cancer
> remission..... not scientists!

	You are ignorant, the whole world sees that, but I'll allow for it.
Doctors are Scientists, they use Science to cure the sick.  Now you know.  FYI,
I did attend medical college (College of Osteopathic Medicine & Surgery) to
augment my skills as a research Scientist.

> James = From my research with rats, one out of 10 controls (who receive
> NO TREATMENT for the cancers they have) will spontaneously "heal" from
> the cancer.  One could say two things, that 1 in 10 will get lucky and
> the body will find a way to defeat the cancer, or god loves only 1 out
> of 10 albino sprague dawley lab rats who are dying of cancer.
>
> Legion = Rats huh? LMAO

	What, god doesn't like (and save) 1 in 10 rats?

> James = Until you can show me a 100% cure rate with prayer, I'll reject
> it.
>
> Legion = You do not live forever James, accept it..... as everyone dies
> from something! Cancer, old age..... and even boredom (in which I'm
> about to die of right now in writing this e-mail).

	Then why did you send it?  All you did was contribute to my ever
growing database showing the fallacy of belief in fictional gods.  You wasted
YOUR time just as much as I wasted MY time in replying to it.

> James = And religion does not, it claims to be flawless, and
> unquestionable!
>
> Legion = Typical wannabe perfectionist! Are you implying that Science as
> we know it can't be questioned...... when it changes DAILY????

	And I ask you, when was the last time RELIGION was updated or changed?
The answer is NEVER.  Which would YOU prefer, Science, or god?

> James = Prayer = psychotherapy.  Happy thoughts can cure disease as
> well as religion.  The body responds to the mind, thus depression
> causes illness, and conversely, happiness causes health.
>
> Legion = Science = ignorance! You believe what you are told, just as the
> Christians do. You cannot prove any of it, its all here-say! NASA has
> all the answers don't they..... its a pity they still can't figure out
> how to keep a ship from crashing into the earth! My God..... how far
> they've come! NASA = Need Another Seven Astronauts (why not try out,
> James)?

	I've said it before, I offtimes wish that before people like you can
receive medical treatments, you must first denounce your god, otherwise the
medical facility should send you home to pray for salvation.  Science =
ignorance, huh?  Next time you need medical care, remember YOUR OWN WORDS!

> Take Care......
>
> (Apologies for any mistakes in grammar, way too tired to go back and
> check)......

	I could care less, I understood what you said.  I am frustrated that
you choose darkness/demons/mythos to knowledge/understanding/growth.

James

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:47:07 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> I finally realize the world in which you live.
> Actually it is more like a state the state of
> confusion.

	That which is unexplainable to you, and confusing to you is simple to
me because I am as achieved (and even in excess of) the gods you worship.

> First you say you don't sin then you say you
> are not without sin. You just stated a very
> important fact probably the most truthful one
> you have stated since our chats. The Bible
> sates we are not without sin  good job.

	For example, you many times verbally attacked me, then expect my
forgiveness, it isn't going to happen.  I don't call you a sh*thead for
example, even tho you are one, because it would hurt your feelings.  I don't
point out your atrocious spelling, even tho it is true, again this would hurt
your feelings, and is pointless.  Those kinds of sins I avoid.  However I do use
illicit drugs (rarely) and alcohol (sometimes) which is a sin, but I am careful
not to harm others in the process of performing those sins.

	I distinguish types of sin, and AVOID harming others, you do not.

> What does Santa Claus have to do as to why
> you are intimidated by God. You gonna say
> you never believed in Santa has a child bet you

	I was told by my mother from the start that santa was a lie, I deduced
on my own that all myths are a lie by the age of 10.  The parallels between
santa and god are that both are false, both are myth.

> didn't think it was silly. You know what is beyond silly thnking that
> Julius Caesar was
> Jesus Christ.

	Caesar asked Piso to create the savior of the slaves to have his
initials so that as the slaves swore their love of JC, the real pontifex
maximus (the living god of Rome) so he could have a nice belly laugh.  The bible
is FULL of these clues, only known to the Roman aristocracy.

> You talk about christianity as a crutch and
> christians not exhibiting a high mentality  I
> would not go around claiming to have mental
> capabilities and say there was no God.

	The prerequisite of deism is a weak mind.  If your mind were stronger,
you too would be an atheist.  There is no such thing as a dumb atheist.  :o)
Before you mention the posts from dumb kids praising satan, remember, they are
NOT atheists, they are satanists (there is a difference).

> The reason you say drdino.com is bunk is
> because he knows more than you.

Dr. Dino's Jury Trial is set for December 9
creationist Kent Hovind's arrest on assault, battery, and burglary charges
http://www.skepticnews.com/features/03/01/10/1252207.shtml

Dr. Dino Fraud : The $25,000 "Challenge" is a Fraud. But so are his academic
credentials.   http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/vlaard/

Suspicious Creationist Credentials : Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) etal claim ??
academic degrees.  http://talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html

The Dissertation Kent Hovind Doesn't Want You to Read : An interesting look
into "Dr." Dino's claim to credentials. The referenced page "Where did you get
your degree?" has been removed from the Dr. Dino website.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/bartelt_dissertation_on_hovind_thesis.htm

The Wild World of Kent Hovind : Does Mr. Hovind have tax problems?
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/hovind/wild_hovind.html

Hovind Bankruptcy Decision : The debtor having failed to file his federal
income tax returns for at least three years 1989 through 1995, having resisted
collection efforts by the IRS, and having provided false information in his
schedules and statement of affairs in connection with this case, I find that
the debtor filed this petition in bad faith and as such the petition is subject
to dismissal for cause under the provisions of 11 U.S.C. 1307(c).
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind-decision.html

Drdino.com, a leading misleading website.
http://hometown.aol.com/darwinpage/creationism.htm

> The man use to  be atheist until he
> realized how wrong he was. You dont like it because you are afraid to be
> proven wrong

	The man appear to be a con artist and appears to have realized how
lucrative the cash cow christianity is.  How much of YOUR money did he get?

James

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:18:31 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

first that article was wrtten by a skptic and has no credibility.
secondly if you had actually read the article you would have seen where
he was aquitted. that means he was found not guilty and the charges were
dropped.
thirdly and i agree 1000 percent that it is not his fault that you and
atheist like you are ignorant enough to think you came fro a rock.
read the article before you run you r mouth next time.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:54:14 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Look at this

Since you said a good typical Christian doesn't cut anyone down I will
state nothing of my religious beliefs. But you are a complete f*cking
retard. Stop with the pussy "f*ck the world" act and actually grow the
hell up. Maybe that bullsh*t works with your f*cking parents and
therapist but listen cock sucker it doesn't with me. If you want to go to
hell so f*cking bad, kill yourself you'll take me and your f*cking self
out of your so called "miserable" life. Grow up and realize you're full
of sh*t and you're going to rot in hell you stupid faggot lover. And go
ahead and post this on your website, I know you won't so I'm not afraid.
Actually I could care less if your lil' razorblade sex cutting crew knew
my email address you can all go lick pussies and blow cocks as far as I'm
concerned. And by the way, you can't put me under the "christian idiots"
category, I didn't say I was a christian but I'm for f*cking sure not a
low life loser antichrist wanna be like your faggot ass. And the
antichrist was from rome you dumb mother f*cker, your probably some Ohio
State loser like Marylin Manson that only imagines he was something as
infamous as the f*cking antichrist. So like I said grow up and stop with
the lil "f*ck the world" act, it only works with your mother. I don't
want to give low lives anymore of my day so I'm out. SEE YOU IN HELL
TINKER BELL!!! Wait, you're the only one going there. Peace out faggot.
P.S. YOU'RE JUST A MOTHER F*CKING WANNA BE!


Editor's note: This youngster is either jealous that we have the website
               he wishes he had, or just needs a good spanking.


Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:37:30 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> first that article was wrtten by a skptic and has no credibility.

	First, that statement (above) was made by a christian (you) and thus has
no credibility.  I hope you see/understand the point I just made.  ;o)

> secondly if you had actually read the article you would have seen where
> he was aquitted. that means he was found not guilty and the charges were
> dropped.

	He was not acquitted, he was not found not-guilty, and the charges were
NOT dropped!  On line 55 of the docket dated 12/9/2002 it clearly says "STATE
ANNOUNCES NOL PROS".  I suppose you don't know anything about law, past
experiences with you suggest this is true.  To explain, nol pros is short for
the latin "nolle prosequi" which means "unwilling to pursue".  The state was
`unwilling to pursue the matter'.  This does NOT mean he was innocent, it
merely means that because of his financial status, nothing was to be gained.
http://205.152.130.14/cv_web_1b.asp?ucase_id=12619523

	The criminal charge will remain on his criminal record for life.  If it
ever happens again, that record will be used to show he had `priors'.  If he
was truly innocent (or just plain smart) he would have used his right to a
trial to be found by the jury not guilty and have the record expunged.

> thirdly and i agree 1000 percent that it is not his fault that you and
> atheist like you are ignorant enough to think you came fro a rock.

	We did, actually, organic chemicals were converted from inorganic
chemicals by lighting.  Thus lightning is in fact, god (the creator of life).

> read the article before you run you r mouth next time.

	I did read it, and I understood it completely.  It's you who apparently
read it but failed to fully understand it.  I'm not a lawyer, but at least I
know the difference between not-guilty and nol pros.

James

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:25:33 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

apparently you dd not read his side of the
story.you just read what the atheist probably wrote in the first place.
he plainly said he was aquitted so get your story right rock man.
for the record God breathed into the nostrils
of man (his creation) the breath of life.
so you keep being stupid

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:44:47 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> apparently you dd not read his side of the
> story.

	Oh wow, you are INCREDIBLE!  I just about pissed my pants laughing at
your ridiculousness right now.  ;o)  Do you even realize what you just said?

	You always say that charley manson (the mass murderer) is not a child
of jesus, but of satan (even tho he claims to be of jesus).  You also assume
that he is guilty of crime.  Apparently you did not read HIS side of the story!

	I hope you now see how ridiculous you are by example.

> you just read what the atheist probably wrote in the first place.

	I read the record of the court.  I have no way of knowing if the judge
was theist or atheist.  Since it was a record of the court, it is legally true.

> he plainly said he was aquitted so get your story right rock man.

	What he says is irrelevant, just as charley manson claiming he was only
performing the murders asked of him by god.  What matters is what the court
says, and in Dr. Dino's case, the court did NOT say he was innocent!

> for the record God breathed into the nostrils
> of man (his creation) the breath of life.
> so you keep being stupid

	Don't you realize how silly those words sound?  The evolution of life
on this planet has been a LONG process taking MILLIONS of years, it wasn't done
over night by some cosmic muffin whom you call god.

James

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:08:17 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

i see how ridiculous you are by your examples.
perhaps your smoking your drugs or drunk at least that would be a
disclaimer for your stupidity. what is irrelevant is your so called
genius. what is relevant is you need to accept
the truth. manson is burning in hell right now so you can get his side
of the story when you get there because i really don't care what the
ignorant creep has to say.i know how silly you
are and i have proved it tremendously. you still
refuse to answer a lot of my questions in my e-mails because you know i
am right and you just can't admit you are wrong. six days this earth was
created not billions of years.
to answer your question where did lead come from well my God that spoke
the world into existence clearly spoke that into existence too.
Go ahead laugh and pee your pants maybe it
will put the fire out when you are roasting in
Hell.NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 01:04:03 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> i see how ridiculous you are by your examples.

	That's not up to you or I to decide, but the thousands who visit the
motherload 4 section to decide on their own.  :o)

> perhaps your smoking your drugs or drunk at least that would be a
> disclaimer for your stupidity.

	Again, which of us is stupid is up to the readers to decide.

> what is irrelevant is your so called
> genius. what is relevant is you need to accept
> the truth.

	If it can be proven, it is true and I accept it.  This is good Science.

> manson is burning in hell right now so you can get his side
> of the story when you get there because i really don't care what the
> ignorant creep has to say.

	Manson is still alive you idiot, he's alive and in prison.  Man, your
realm of knowledge is so very VERY narrow.  Do a little research will ya?

> i know how silly you
> are and i have proved it tremendously.

	Again, this is not up to us to decide, but for the readers to decide ON
THEIR OWN.  They will read both our words and draw their own conclusions.

> you still
> refuse to answer a lot of my questions in my e-mails because you know i
> am right and you just can't admit you are wrong.

	I answer every question, in fact, I routinely show you as a silly silly
man when I do it.  :o)  Everyone can see that too.

> six days this earth was
> created not billions of years.

	Now these kinds of remarks I ignore, because that's just silly.

> to answer your question where did lead come from well my God that spoke
> the world into existence clearly spoke that into existence too.

	Wow, so why does Uranium become lead in millions of years then?

> Go ahead laugh and pee your pants maybe it
> will put the fire out when you are roasting in
> Hell.NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Hell does not exist.  Neither does heaven.  Enjoy the life you have
right now, it is the only life you will ever have.

James

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:57:53 -0800 (GMT)
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: Antichrist

Hello Haydn,

I'm just curious. You say that you are the Second Apostle to the
Antichrist. So who is this Antichrist that you speak of? If Jesus came
back to this God forsaken world, do you think that he would come back as
Christ for the second time? What if (I) - realizing that I was God's Son -
like in the Bible became filled with inner turmoil realizing that all
Christians were wrong. That not only was I powerless to do anything about
it, but instead took on the only logical personification of my Father the
Devil. If Jesus came to this world a second time, would he not come as the
embodiment of evil? The Antichrist. God and the Devil are the same person.
Although there may be many people running around claiming to be the
Antichrist. You and I know that there is only one Antichrist. Believe me,
he is here, and he is watching you realizing that his children are so
close to him. You may think that I am insane. I'm not. Keep creating doubt
in the weak minds of those poor dumb Christians. Those poor lost sheep
will never find their way home, I'm afraid. You might not want to publish
the letter that I sent to you the other day. As a favor to me. So far I've
heard three humans claim to be the Antichrist. Although it amuses me, I
don't like it. There's only one Antichrist and will only ever be one true
Antichrist. All others are false. I, however am not.

Good night Haydn, sweet dreams.

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:15:50 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

your motherloads are bunk. once again the only people who agree with you
are you stupid atheist pals. the christians all agree with me and that
already has been proven. [1] you said can
1000 christians all be wrong and your answer was they are well can all
the atheist be stupid yes definitely.[2]
trouble is your science theory never had a chance to be proven right
because God is the creator regardless of what you atheist say.[3]
sorry got my scum ags mixed up must of been
thinking of ted bundy wishful thinking on mansion part.[4]

can you count to two. i have explained twice that heaven is a threefold
reality. you have not commented, i have told you twice that in the book
of Isaiah that God calls Lucifer Satan
and you fail to comment. you have not answered all my questions so quit
lying.
post this in your stupid site i am sre christians would love to know how
you avoid the truth.
I will enjoy my life you fruit cake. my Lord has blessed me with so many
things to enjoy. [5] it is
people like you that screw this world up. this
stinking sinful earth is the worst i will ever have.
i have a mansion awaiting me where i will see my blessed Lodr's face.
in the book of Revelation it tells of how people like you will have heir
part in the lake of fire. [6]
it says anyone who adds tothis book(you have
by twiting scripture) or takes away (you have by
denying) shall have their name taken out of the book of life. don't
worry your name is not there anyway. go find another turnip truck to
fally off of you stupid ignorant moronic silly piece of low life crap.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: [1] The subject states the obvious, however it has not yet
               been proven that all christians agree with him. [2] As we
               have all seen here, there are plenty of examples of stupid
               christians and satanists, however I have yet to see even
               one stupid person who is atheist. Stupidity and atheism are
               contradictory, whereas religion was made for the weakest of
               minds. [3] Unlike creationism, Science requires proof. [4]
               The subject only rarely, as in this case, admits his most
               obvious errors. [5] The subject has reported that he is
               unemployed, disabled, and living off the taxpayers. [6]
               Most of us today no longer believe the earth is flat, and
               that below the earth is a lake of fire, nor above is heaven
               (the place where the Space Station now orbits).


Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:44:26 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Please Write Back

Hey, whats up with you not writing me back? I was completey nice to you
but you just avoid me. I guess that shows how much of a man an atheist
really is. It just goes to show you, without God you're nothing but a
coward. Thank you for helping prove my point, I'm posting both my emails
on my own website and have my "atheist idiots" section, maybe you can go
to it to feel how stupid you really are. Well anyways thanks for allowing
me to see how scared the atheist and wanna be antichrists really are.
You're nothing but a coward that wants attention from his mommy so you do
this whole rebelion act. Well like I said it doesn't work with me, it
only works with your parents. Thank GOD I don't have a kid like you, I
would be so disappointed. You're a loser. Bye KID.

JTrig


Editor's note: I refuse to incite another "Jeff" and refuse to write to
               this person.  As we can all see, the mind of this person is
               ill equipped to logically debate with me (as is the case
               with "Jeff").  By not replying to these people, perhaps I
               won't need to create a MOTHERLOAD 5, given that I already
               did not want to create this MOTHERLOAD 4!


Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:59:56 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net

Just like I said before that site about Dr. Dino was written by a
skeptic and has no credibility,Let me explain what a skeptic is, A
skeptic is one who simply does not know what to believe. He doesn't know
what is right so he tells people to make their own minds up. This writer
of this site did not know what the hell he was talking about plain and
simple. You can keep trying to attack christians but you will never win.
Why don't you do research. On your site you
said christianity was formed by the Romans to keep slaves in line.
Here is the truth. The people that believed that
God was the creator did not make good slaves so your claim is just like
you STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID. Choke on that
braniac and burn in Hell I don't care anymore.
You are wrong there is a God and you will soon
find out. Another thing you did not care to comment on was when I proved
that your little stupid science KILLS. The field of science killed
that little 17 year old girl by giving her the wrong blood.     I guess
everyone in the science field is stupid. what a shame. I hope you post
this
christians need to know that there is someone more intelligent than you
who knows the truth
Once again I prove science sucks. one more for
 the good guys. Jesus lives forever. Christ is King. Glory to God in the
highest. Bye Bye

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Even when the champions of their cause are proven to be
               charlatans, the fundamentalist christian continues to cling
               on to their lies for dear life, a paradox given that the
               fundamentalist christian believes that this life sucks, and
               the afterlife is superior, why do they cling so dearly to
               the life they now have? Christianity sells poverty, and
               submission, and precludes you from defending yourself. This
               religion is suitable for slaves. It keeps them docile for
               their masters. On the final point, anyone killed by Science
               is dead anyway. Anyone who is so seriously ill that they
               need a blood transfusion is likely to die very soon if
               given no treatment at all. Mistakes happen, however
               countless lives are saved by modern medicine, and by
               Science, even this person "Jeff" benefits from Science tho
               he refuses to admit it. I am however troubled by his
               constant statement that "Science sucks" given that Science
               produced his prosthetic leg, and of course, saved his life.
               He is a typical [classic] christian hypocrite who deserves
               none of the benefits Science offers to all.


Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:20:16 +0000
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject:

Do you believe that the next pope will be the antichrist?

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:49:37 -0800 (GMT)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Antichrist

James,

That's ok. I'm not that concerned about it. I just want you to know who
and what I am. I e-mailed Haydn a URL where both of you can see my face.
It's http://www.geocities.com/allenpaulstone/mypage.html. I have not had
the time to fully look over your site, but I will. You're very important
to me. More than you know. Stay in touch with me. Please.

The Antichrist

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:30:33 EST
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: hey

I saw your page saying that you have suspended the e-mails being sent to you.
I thought maybe trying this address may let me speak to you.  If this e-mail
does reach you please e-mail me back.  By the way I love the site and I
showed it to a few of my friends who also loved it.  I am an Antichrist.
Robert

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:18:27 EST
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: hi

I'm not saying you can't believe in what you do. As a christian I'm not
going to cuss or force you out of believing in the anti-christ because
God has taught me better than that. There is an anti-christ,
unfortunatly, and there is people like you that base their trust in him.
If you ever took time to read the bible, which you probably haven't, then
maybe you would have a different point of view. I have took my time
researching the anti-christ and I have still decided that I do not want
to be a part in it. I know you are probably going to blow this emial off
but if you think christians are so evil then why am I not cussing you out
or being mean. You may think that Christ has a black heart but how can
you say that when God was the one who brought you into this world. You
can still believe in whatever you want to, I'm just  suggesting that you
read the bible and then you can feel free to write whatever you want even
though it still won't mean your right.

-Christie

P.S. Remember that God will always love you no matter what. He/she will
still forgive you no matter what you have done. Just keep that in the
back of your mind.

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:47:52 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: two words

thank you

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:17:23 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: One more for the good guys

Well once again I have proved you wrong and
myself right. I told you the only ones that you
would allow to respond to my post would be your ignorant atheist
friends. That mockingbird
atheist does not know me from Adam so their
opinions suck just like he or she does. They
have no right to give their views on what christians are thinking. That
mike guy would
not even say either way if he was a christian or not so who cares about
his opinions I don't.
I did however see several that still say the same thing I have told you
over and over although they did not mention my name. I say they are the
intelligent ones. You say you are a
decent person you would not even respond to me before you posted my
writings sounds like
a coward to me. You made a statement that the
people science killed were already dead that is the most ignorant thing
you have ever said. Don't get me wrong everything you have said is
stupid and a pack of lies but that topped them all. I guess NASA sent a
bunch of dead people
on their space shuttle challenger. I guess the
school teacher that was killed in the shuttle went to school dead every
morning.  I guess the seven people were put on columbia already
dead. Let me say this one more time you are a
ignorant moronic fool. Your science killed them
That seventeen year old girl was very much alive until your stupid
science gave her the wrong blood therefore making her transplant
useless. I hope her family sues your science for everything they have. I
also recall your science
cutting the wrong leg off a man not to long ago.
One more time let's say it together SCIENCE
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since My God created everything and it all belongs to him he allowed me
the prosthetic
leg. I am just happy your stupid sucking science
did not take the wrong leg from me. It was only
by the grace of my Lord that they knew what they were doing. I noticed
your editor's note at
the end of some of my postings let me tell you what they really mean.
You are actually saying
this christian is really intelligent and right and I
can't beat him with my stupidity so I will not say
anything, You still refuse to answer a lot of my
questions and you know it LOSER.  I will leave you now with this true
fact and I hope you take it to heart.
The Bible tells us that when Christ makes his
final triumphant return we christians will be right
beside him judging the lost with him. Won't you
look stupid when you see me standing there looking down on you.
All I and the other Christians have done is try
to tell you the truth. It is not our fault that you
don't listen. It would only be our fault if we did not try to warn you.
SCIENCE is not a religion not a true one anyway. Jesus is the only way
to Heaven.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: I have in previous emails, instructed "Jeff" in the
               Scientific method of testing me to see if I reject emails
               that agree with him. I told him to simply have his friends
               write in, then let him know how many of them wrote, and see
               if those messages appear in a Motherload section. It
               appears he has not done that. Jeff insinuates that I am a
               coward for ceasing to reply to him, however the reason is
               clear, I'm sick of his circular logic, he fails to
               understand what I say (or ignores the facts). He
               consistently has incorrectly quoted me time and again, as
               shown above, he says "You made a statement that the people
               science killed were already dead that is the most ignorant
               thing you have ever said" and then followed that statement
               with illogical examples. What I said, and you may scroll up
               to verify this, "Anyone who is so seriously ill that they
               need a blood transfusion is likely to die very soon if
               given no treatment at all". So far I have been able to
               refute "Jeff" 100%, there is not even ONE CASE where he has
               been proven correct. Jeff continues too scream "Science
               sucks" while directly benefiting from Science, and living
               as a parasite off of YOU the taxpayers, attributing ALL of
               these benefits to his god! I have given Jeff enough of a
               voice here, and will not respond to him again.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:29:45 -0800
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: Haydn

Apostle Haydn,

Recently I have taken the time to view your web site in some detail. As
I read the poor misguided theories of the dumb lost sheep Christians, I
can't help but to think of the time that I threw my back out vomiting. I
had to walk with a cane for a week. All of this Jesus s*it is very
disturbing to me. When I think about all of the heterosexual men with
^ÓReal Men Love Jesus^Ô bumper stickers on their cars, I can't help but to
think that they are as homosexual as their master, ^ÓJesus^Ô. The biggest
q*eer in town. Not that I don't support homosexuals. Any sinner, sexual
deviant or heretic is ok in my book. Anyway, Jesus loves and supports
all of his children, including the homosexuals.

There's no term that's not derogatory for queers, is there? Queers,
dykes, faggots, homosexuals, gays, fairies, fudge-packers,
weinnie-washers. The list just goes on and on. Maybe we should re-name
them. You know, give them a name like ^Óstand out on the curb and wait to
be collected^Ô.

To me, God is like a christmas tree, people hang all kinds of names on
him, like ornaments, but that doesn't make him an ornament, Hess still
the tree. Although I fully support the atheist point of view, I consider
myself to be more of an agnostic. God has denied mankind, why should we
confess Him? Where in the f*ck is Jesus? He should have been here by
now. Shouldn't he? Still the dumb christians pray. Keep praying. Maybe
your Redeemer will come to redeem you. However, I personally do not need
to be saved or redeemed or rescued by any person or god or deity or
anything or anyone.

The plague of christianity, I fear, will be with us forever. If Jesus
came to this world 2000 years ago, we should have swept that event under
the carpet of history. Not wrote a warped fictional biography about his
life. Raised the dead, my ass. I'm an intelligent human being. I cant
believe in that hocus-pocus fair tale s*it! I like ignorant people, they
just make me look smarter.

The Antichrist

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:53:29 +0200
To: James@antichrist.net
Subject: Taking control

Greetings James

It is a pleasure to see a site that has the guts to fly into the
face of the church the way you do.It was the churches fault
that we are not a space faring culture by this time as they
impeded the development of science by almost 1000 years
by killing truth seekers. I have the problem of coming from
a deeply religeous family that even named me after persons
in the bible eg Gabriel [removed] [removed].My brother has an IQ
of 135 and he wastes it by studying the bible and by relying
on god upto now has brough me nothing but trouble and
misery by hoping for a miracle to cure my mother of her
afliction of Multiple Sclerosis (I hope it is spelled correctly)
to no avail.

I therefore decided 2 weeks ago to take control of my own destiny and
haven't looked back since and for the first time I feel truly free and
able to put my 146 IQ to to the test.I already constructed my own CO2
laser from parts I scavenged and improvised two years ago . I cannot wait
for a real test of my skills now that I tossed the yoke of religion.

As a amateur scientist I have gotten sick and tired of the
lies that religion has spread across the face of the earth.
How can we think that we are special in such a large
universe of trilions upon trilions of stars.Are we truly the
only sentient species in all the universe?

Can you believe that brother and most of my family believes that the
Earth is only 6000 years old? All that I say is: if the earth is 6000
Years old then why do I have a collection of meteorites that is 4.6
billion years old or even ordinary basalts from my local area that is 1.5
to 2 billion years old?

In South Africa where I live I've been robbed twice, three of
my friends have been hijacked and one of my and my father's close friends
who is almost like family was attacked
in his home (at least he shot four of the five) and all this by
caffers or negroes as you call them last year alone.

Did you know that we were actually a nuclear power with six deliverable
weapons in our arsenal and also a ICBM program
that was nearly complete?

Hope to hear from you

Gabriel

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:59:53 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

It is not my fault that  all christians are not
on fire and sold out to Christ like myself. I wish
more would stand up and defend their Lord as
I have so rightly done. I would say the same for you but you are atheist
you believe in nothing
therefore you have nothing to defend. I do applaud all those that did
stand up and champion christianity great job guys keep up
the good work. You say I defend science. LIKE
I SAID YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND.
Get this straight those web sites you like to post are all written by
either skeptics or your atheist creeps and you know it. They mean
NOTHING
AND PROVE NOTHING JUST LIKE YOU.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: That says it all, "sold out to christ".


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:40:30 -0600
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: interesting site

i recently came across this site whilst searching for nietzsche's "Das
Antichrist", which you conveniently link to, and was intrigued by the
content of the site.  i am struggling as an atheist in a catholic family,
so i can attest to the lack of social acceptance for enlightened souls.
i do not have a whole lot else to add, except to show you a
ludicrous site i stumbled across a few years ago that i enjoy browsing
occasionally.  www.drdino.com is absolutely filled to the unevolved gills
with bad science, and goes as far as to make the claim that
environmentalism is directly related to fulfilling a communist agenda
without providing any evidence that the two are even remotely connected.
this religous fanatic must be stopped before any gullible christians
think that they are doing gods will by destroying the environment.
anyway, thats all i got, keep up the good work.

Justin

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:50:57 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Mockingbird needs to learn how to read and get their facts straight.
There has not been one
christian post that has agreed with anything you
have said that disgraces God. Everything I said
about science was meant solely to discredit the
assumption that it had anything to do with creation. You kept bringing
up its wonders
and I kept proving its blunders through God's
word and through world events. I have noticed
that some of the people that have posted do
not claim to be christian and still do not agree with you. I have made
you look silly and a lot
of others have too and I applaud them for a job well done.   If I write
anymore it will have nothing to do with science or any other
insignificant matter. It will be only to praise my
Lord and King Jesus Christ. I am still praying
for you and I have my church friends praying
for you too.. There is still hope for you.
Jesus is the answer for all your problems.
Trust Him today and live. Go ahead don't post
this i will only once again prove that I am true
and you need Jesus.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:34:32 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

go ahead and make fn of disabled people. at
least i am physically disabled and not mentally
disabled like your stupid ass. I have done kicked your stupid ass
mentally and would love to kick it physically. Guess I will just have to
wait for the day I can watch y Lord kick your sorry doubting butt into a
eternal lake of fire.
chow STUPID ASS.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: In a private message which I agreed not to publish here, I
               showed "Jeff" an example of one of the things that I do. I
               develop adaptive technologies for the blind. Perhaps some
               of you noticed that this whole website is one of a very few
               on the Internet that is "screen reader enabled" for the
               blind. On the main page, in the lower left hand corner is
               an icon showing that this website is 100% Lynx friendly.
               These facts were already known to "Jeff", but until now,
               unknown to you the readers. Given that he knew what it is
               that I do, and how my application of Science is improving
               the lives of the blind, he still writes comments such as
               this. I have no idea where he gets the idea that I "make
               fun" of the disabled, however an evil black hearted bastard
               like him does not deserve his adaptive technologies!


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:41:56 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: two words

ten wrote:
>
> thank you

	You're welcome, but would you care to elaborate a bit more?

James

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:49:10 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Taking control

> Gabriel wrote:
>
> Greetings James
>
> It is a pleasure to see a site that has the guts to fly into the
> face of the church the way you do.

	I only rarely receive letters of support, since it appears that it is
mostly _christians_ who seek out websites that deal with "antichrist" and not
atheists.  Thank you for your support and words of encouragement.  :o)  You
truly are, a brother to all of us at antichrist dot net!  :o)

> It was the churches fault
> that we are not a space faring culture by this time as they
> impeded the development of science by almost 1000 years

	It is the highly religious USA president that is impeding stem cell
research, but in honor of his god, the USA will NOT be the country to find the
cures to _all_ of mans diseases, it will be Americans working abroad who will,
just as it was Germans working abroad during WWII who invented atomic bombs!

	The USA (and of course YOUR country South Africa) _used_ to be the
greatest first world nations, but thanks to current multicultural and religious
policy, the USA is soon to be a 3rd world country, just like South Africa is
now.  Most people don't even realize that South Africa was the country that
_pioneered_ heart transplantation, they just assume it was here in the USA.

> by killing truth seekers. I have the problem of coming from
> a deeply religeous family that even named me after persons
> in the bible eg Gabriel [removed] [removed].My brother has an IQ
> of 135 and he wastes it by studying the bible and by relying
> on god upto now has brough me nothing but trouble and
> misery by hoping for a miracle to cure my mother of her
> afliction of Multiple Sclerosis (I hope it is spelled correctly)
> to no avail.

	Prayer has no effect, however MEDICINE is used even by the very
christians who denounce it, and the Science that discovers it.  You will see
the hypocrisy in the person named "Jeff" who is prolific on this website, as he
both benefits from, and also curses Science with his every word.

> I therefore decided 2 weeks ago to take control of my own destiny and
> haven't looked back since and for the first time I feel truly free and able
> to put my 146 IQ to to the test.I already constructed my own CO2 laser from
> parts I scavenged and improvised two years ago . I cannot wait for a real
> test of my skills now that I tossed the yoke of religion.

	Congratulations!  :o)  A CO2 laser is fun, but the beam isn't visible
(in the long IR band).  I've had the most fun with solid state, not gas lasers.
See if you can build an Nd:YAG laser, then put a KTP doubler in it, and produce
a bright, highly visible green beam laser.  They are _very_ cool indeed.  :o)

	By the way, if you would like to discuss Science here, feel free to, as
I'm thoroughly SICK of talking about fictional deities with christian fools.

> As a amateur scientist I have gotten sick and tired of the
> lies that religion has spread across the face of the earth.

	Hear here!  :o)

> How can we think that we are special in such a large
> universe of trilions upon trilions of stars.Are we truly the
> only sentient species in all the universe?

	The god-heads seem to think so.  They seem to think that a mostly
hairless, highly clever (but physically weak) ape is the `apple of gods eye'.

> Can you believe that brother and most of my family believes that the Earth
> is only 6000 years old? All that I say is: if the earth is 6000 Years old
> then why do I have a collection of meteorites that is 4.6 billion years old
> or even ordinary basalts from my local area that is 1.5 to 2 billion years
> old?

	They simply forego logic and wallow in self-deceit.  Read my message to
gôô©hëëë wherein I explain the difference between religion and Science (it's in
Motherload 4).  "Religion's operating principles are usually declared by
someone claiming to be of a higher authority, and the ideas of this so-called
`higher authority' are blindly accepted by the believer on the basis of faith
alone."  and  "While one can `believe' just about anything, scientific
conclusions are based on a rigorous process whereby hypotheses (ideas about how
things work) are posed and tested against observations.  This is usually based
on an empirical process of gathering observations or making measurements under
a known set of natural or experimental conditions."

> In South Africa where I live I've been robbed twice, three of
> my friends have been hijacked and one of my and my father's close friends
> who is almost like family was attacked
> in his home (at least he shot four of the five) and all this by
> caffers or negroes as you call them last year alone.

	We have similar problems here.  According to the Uniform Crime
Statistics, for the last year they were kept based upon gender and race (1997)
it clearly showed that 86% of all crime in the USA and 93% of all violent crime
were committed by just 12% of the population, negroes.  It is now unlawful, but
not illegal to say this, even tho IT IS TRUE!  It is also unlawful (but not yet
illegal) to deny the inflated "holocaust" stories perpetrated by the jews.  The
government is working hard to remove our First Amendment right to free speech,
and make my saying of these verifiable facts, a crime.  Search google for the
name "Ernst Zundel", he's an American citizen (by marriage) who was deported
for having a website discussing the truth about the holocaust.  He could not be
imprisoned here for saying what he said, so they have deported him to Canada,
who has him in jail on "spreading false news" charges, awaiting his extradition
to Germany where he can be tried as a "holocaust denier" and suffer JAIL time.

	At one time in our past, the USA would welcome anyone who was charged
with crimes in countries where free speech was outlawed, and allow them asylum
HERE where we had guaranteed freedoms.  This is now NO LONGER the case.

	These are very frightening times here in the USA, purportedly "The land
of the free, and the home of the brave".

> Did you know that we were actually a nuclear power with six deliverable
> weapons in our arsenal and also a ICBM program
> that was nearly complete?

	Yes, I knew that.  You had uranium 235 bombs only however, maximum
yield of only up to around half a kiloton, and up to maybe 10 kilotons (if they
were boosted).  I don't believe you guys ever figured out how to build a
tritium pit boosted bomb before the negroes took over.  THANKFULLY you guys
dismantled your nuclear program, destroying EVERYTHING (without handing "the
bomb" over to your negro dominated government of today).  Had your white
president not been wise, imagine the world if Mugabe or Mandella had the bomb!

> Hope to hear from you

	I hope to hear MORE from you, tell us more stories about what it's like
in South Africa, how the "loving negro" is as we speak, killing all the white
farmers in your country FORCING all of the people into starvation!  Even dogs
that eat their own sh*t are more intelligent than the negro!  However, it will
soon be illegal to point out the fact that negroes here riot, burn whole cities
to the ground, and to say that it is `just their nature' rather than OUR fault
(the white people) who supposedly oppress them by giving them a FREE RIDE!

	Please tell us more of the TRUTH, so that people can compare the
negroes in YOUR country to what they are doing here.  Here, they get away with
it by `being an oppressed minority' however they are the overwhelming MAJORITY
in your country, YET BEHAVE THE EXACT SAME WAY!  You might want to note, that
the jews who control nearly 100% of the media in the USA prevent such stories
from being seen by the white people in the USA.  We _need_ YOUR words!

James

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:40:59 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: interesting site

> Justin wrote:
>
> i do
> not have a whole lot else to add, except to show you a ludicrous site i
> stumbled across a few years ago that i enjoy browsing occasionally.
> www.drdino.com is absolutely filled to the unevolved gills with bad science

	Yes, the most prolific (rabid) christian contributor to OUR cause on
this site (by showing the more intelligent christian readers the fallacy of
their religion), "Jeff" has talked about the Dr. Dino site often.  I've also
refuted the credential and claims of Dr. Dino to this "Jeff".  Just browse
through Motherload 3 and 4 and read what I've said.  :o)

	Good luck in surviving as an atheist in a catholic family, and thank
you for writing.  Note, I have the complete Das Antichrist on the main index
page linked at the bottom for you if you wish.  It's preformatted text, so you
can easily convert it to ebook format if you so choose.  :o)

Cheers!
James

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:41:47 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Time for another lesson. The word of God says
the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord.
That word fear in this case does not mean to be
afraid of. It means to give reverence or honor unto. You see you fail to
fear the Almighty God.
How can you say you are wise? It does not matter how much you think you
know in this world it only matters who you know. Salvation comes from
the finished work of Calvary and
 not  through science. Anyone who does not believe that simply needs to
trust Christ,
Another thing you will fail to post this because it is the truth and you
are void of truth.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Obviously now that I am no longer replying to this turkey,
               he has absolutely nothing to say of any importance, and
               will no longer be included in this section. However, if
               anyone wants to agree with him, those emails will of course
               be included as promised. I have spam-blocked his email
               address so I (we) will not be bothered by him again. Of
               course he will say I am censoring him, but he has received
               enough of a voice. Time to let others have their say.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:22:21 -0600
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject:

hi- i know you're probably just going to delete this but i'm gonna send
it anyways. i need you to tell "your first apostle" who says Jesus Christ
(by the way I'm a sold out Freak for Jesus Christ) is just a myth. Since
he has decided to believe science instead of the Holy Bible, i have some
scientific facts for him. If Jesus is just a myth, ask your scientists
why He fulfills over 300 prophecies in the 3 years He was ministering!
Ask your historians any historic event in the Bible and they will say
that it happened, including the birth, death, and resurrection of my
Lord, Jesus Christ. I am not sending this to be one of the many other
Christians who want to yell at you and condemn you. I am sending this
because the conditions of this world today are pathetic. and websites
that denounce Jesus Christ as our Savior do not help much. The other day,
my cousin's friend, who is in 7th grade, got pregnant. My brother's
friend almost died from drugs. I want to give you a warning- if you don't
bow down today by choice- you will be forced to one day.


Editor's note: Curious, another "sold out to christ". Perhaps a more
               proper term is "infected with the christ meme". As for
               prophecies, there have been absolutely zero (0) validated
               prophecies, and any so-called prophecies in the bible are
               merely inadmissible hearsay evidence.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:10:56 -0600
To: timothy@antichrist.net
Subject:

May God help you and save your soul!!! Love, Candy

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:06:43 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: elaboration

elaboration: you have a well maintained site devoted to showing the
obvious faults in religious logic. this is what i thank you for...
keep teaching

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:23:54 -0800
To: timothy@antichrist.net
Subject: hello Timothy

Hello Timothy, 3/10/03

I just didn't want to pass you by. I read your page and liked many of
your ideas. All of my Satanic friends are gone now. It makes me feel
empty and alone. I sometimes think about you and James and Haydn. I have
not read Fredrick's page yet. I imagine that you recognize who and what
I am. I don't think that many people wake up and think, hmmmm... I'm the
Antichrist and then go about their daily business. Others know I'm here.
I could tell you about all of the signs that point to me, they^Yre
unmistakable. My presence was discovered when I turned 30. I am now 34.

When you're the Antichrist, there's no sanctuary to comfort you. There's
no religious point of view to make you feel better about who you are.
Instead, fragments of scripture dance around in my head like corpses
dancing in the sky on the day of "The Rapture". I was cast out of heaven
like lightening. I have been cast out of my grave ^\like an abominable
branch, like a carcase trodden under foot^]. My name has been wiped from
the face of the earth. The bible said that all traces of my existence
would be destroyed. To quote the bible (even the Devil can quote the
bible), I think Isaiah in his 14th chapter and verse 15 said it best,
and I quote: ^\Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of
the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider
thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did
shake kingdoms; That make the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the
cities thereof?^] I take those words very personally. That^Ys my life. You
are my disciples, like it or not. Weather you believe in me or not, you
are mine. You belong to me. Think what you will, but I AM here.

The Antichrist

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:46:14 -0800 (PST)
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: my comments

hi james, this is Mark from Philippines... so you are saying that you are
an anti christ. and you believe that Jesus Christ was a myth.. I really
disagree in what you believe... Ok!! i know that its hard to believe
things that we really cant see... right?

So, the point is why should we believe jesus christ, although we cant see
him... but it is how we felt. whenever he exist or not... for me, i
really fell that jesus christ exist.. if you will read the history of
Roman Empire, Jesus Christ was crucifide.. You cant say that its just a
lie.... bcoz its one of the history of the Roman Empire.. But now, i dont
care whether there is some existence of jesus christ or not.. what i care
now is what will i do if i die.... You? you were born to contradict about
christian... That was your Karma... what you should do now is to chant
the holy names of Krishna, which is someday when you die, he will be the
one to help you not to reincarnate again in this material world.. he will
help you, go directly to the kingdom of ones who created you.. I really
expect that there are millions of millions of uneduscated people who will
do contradict the bible.. but for me, i cant blame those people, bcoz
every now and then thousands of thousands of&nb sp; changes and new
testaments are existing... thats why christian is soon be critisize by
just another christian...

you are saying that you are morally different from all christians.. i say
not, bcoz if you are, you will not let your mind control, let your soul
control your mind, not your mind controling you.. and if you know
everything you will realize that you are just a soul.. you are not the
body but the soul... and soon, you will die... and after you die you will
reincarnate from another gross material body.. which is, you will
suffer.. why suffer? bcoz, you cannot get out from this cyle of life..
what is cyle of life? Birth, Diseases, Old Age and Death.... What you
should do now is to do something to get out to this cyle of life.. How
can you gewt out of this Cycle? Simple, by just chanting the name of God
Krishna... Just like what krishna said to his disciples, anyone who wants
to serve me by his own will, will be accepted to the kingdom of mine...

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:42:07 -0800
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: for Timothy:

Hello Timothy, 3/11/03

I just didn't want to pass you by. I read your page and liked many of
your ideas. All of my Satanic friends are gone now. It makes me feel
empty and alone. I sometimes think about you and James and Haydn. I have
not read Fredrick's page yet. I like to imagine that you recognize who
and what I am. I don't think that many people wake up and think,
^Óhmmmm... I'm the Antichrist^Ô and then go about their daily business.
Others already know that I'm here. I could tell you about all of the
signs that all point to me, they are unmistakable. My presence was
discovered when I turned 30. I am now 34. Born on 2-6-69 @ 9:06am.

When you're the Antichrist, there's no sanctuary to comfort you. There's
no religious point of view to make you feel better about who you are.
Instead, fragments of scripture dance around in my head like corpses
dancing in the sky on the day of "The Rapture". I was cast out of heaven
like lightening. I have been cast out of my grave ^Ólike an abominable
branch, like a carcass trodden under foot^Ô. My name has been wiped from
the face of the earth. The bible said that all traces of my existence
would be destroyed. To quote the bible (even the Devil can quote the
bible), I think that the prophet Isaiah in his 14th chapter and verse 15
said it best, and I quote: ^ÓYet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to
the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee,
and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to
tremble, that did shake kingdoms; That make the world as a wilderness,
and destroyed the cities thereof?^Ô I take those words very personally.
That^Òs my life. You are my disciples, like it or not. Weather you
believe in me or not, you belong to me. Think what you will, but I AM here.

The Antichrist

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:55:41 +0200
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Taking control

Greetings again James

As you have seen in my previous message we really do have a problem here
with our negroes. They have a culture of stealing and other voilent crimes
going back
centuries.On 12 October 2001 I was shot in a botched
robery attempt but at least I got my payback by putting
a cap in his ass or at least through  his stomach.I on the other hand got
shot in my lower left leg and the funny thing is that I didn't feel a thing
untill I looked down and
saw this mass of blood gushing out of two small holes.
It missed critical muscle and bone tissue by one or two
centimeters that if they got hit could have costed my my leg.

The next big evil is affirmative action causing compitent
and skilled persons to be replaced by imcompitent and
unskilled black morons , an example of corrupt state officials:

A black bitch getting paid $75000 a year for doing nothing but talk on the
phone with friends and drinking coffee all day long while white persons
under her must do her job for her because she has the education of a turd.
The only reason she got this position was because she
is a relative of someone higher up and this is hardly a unique situation in
a goverment rife with corruption.

In my previous job last year I saw what the public was forbidden to see in
the form of crime statistics.While the police was upgrading their computers
I got top security clearance to work in sensitive areas to install new
computers and make sure that they work properly.
The numbers that I saw shocked my very core. Rape,
murder,assault  and other voilent crimes was of the charts in most areas in
my province alone.I wish I had a copy of those statistics but before we left
each sensitive area we were searched for any computer media that may be on
our person.

In my bedroom at home I have a SWORD,SHOTGUN,
GLOCK, BASEBALL BAT, STUN BATON and a
can of POLICE ISSUE TEAR GAS where I can reach them at a moments notice for
self defence in the event of an intruder. I was attacked and shot outside my
gate when the electrical motor failed and I had to open it manually but
luckely I was armed.

One plus point of our country is the fact that you can get
weed or pot almost anywhere. I once bought half a kilo
for about $30 (R300) that was Malawi Gold and it was a pure pleasure to
smoke over the passing months without my parents finding out about it of
course. My mother with
her affliction now actually makes tea from the stuff I
grow in my garden at about two kilos a year in buds with the leaves going
for my mothers tea.

My older brother the bible nut is also afflicted by
Cystic Fibroses for which he refuses to take medication
like any sane or rational person would. He even traveled
to Nigeria to see  T.B Joshua, a fake negroe prophet who
claims to heal the sick by praying for them. Sadly even
though he personally prayed for him he is still sick today
two years later wich proves that all religious activities are
all a waste of time and resources.

I am now 25 years old with a lifetime of cristianity behind
me.But the time wasted on this fruitless indeavour can
never be recovered and this thursday it will be the third
week of dropping the yoke and freeing myself from this
crap and I feel better and no longer oppressed .

Enought of this lets talk science
Building that laser was extremly rewarding but it suffered
a plasma tube implosion two days after first light and since it was about
the time I got my 3 SP907 Helium Neon lasers I just didn't get around to
take it apart to insert a new tube and to realighn the thing again.I proved
that it worked but it was just to much trouble to keep running.

The one Helium Neon laser is totally misallighned but
the other two is still lases at 34 to 37 mW and the beams
are quite spectacular for lack of something better.I would
dearly love to get my hands on a doubled YAG or even
a Argon laser but it was shear luck just to get the required
optics for the CO2 laser and even the HeNe's and it proved imposible to get
YAG rods and optics and not
even mentioning the arc, flash lamp KTP crystal or even a diode array at
reasonble prices. I got my 907's from a person who stripped some mainframe
printers and sold them cheap(about $200) including the power supplies for
all three.

As for my meteorites I have a few Irons and ordinary
NWA Chondrites but my crown jewel is my 7.4 KG
Achondrite that I found myself while searching and
is in the process of identifying the type.The problem here
is if the goverment find out about it they will conficate it
without any compensation whatsoever.

On the computer side of things I have quite a few diplomas and about 5
computers all to myself at home to
program on and to experiment with

I am still new on the subject of genetics but I am slowly learning about
it.The same goes for nanotechnogy but I find what I know to facinate me
already.

As for nuclear weapons and reactors I amassed quite
a lot of common knowlege about their wokings and also
some experimental concepts.

I may not be a progidy like you but I plan to make the best use of my born
with IQ of 146. The thing that kept me from reaching my full potential was
Hyperactivity and
Attention Deficit Disorder but I have overcome that recently on my own
without any help from god and
now I am ready to learn all that I can about everything
that interests me.

Cheerio
Gabriel

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:58:46 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: cool site

hey, i'm steven from belgium and i accedently came to your site. I'm 18
and i'm already 3 jears anti-christ. In belgium there are meany
anti-christ and where proud of it!!!! I think it is 60%!!! I just wanna
say that your site rocks! Meany greetz from belgium, steven
ps: sorry for my bad english i speak dutch you know!!

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:14:46 -0600
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: me again

     I have been thinking again (what a rare occasion!) and the bible says
that god fortells the future.  That would mean that it is a future in which
god has done certain things.  That would mean that the infalliable god no
onger has a choice over his actions, unless he was wrong about the future.
So, either way, he can't be all powerful, can he?
     And another thing, I think that those christians that don't beleive in
evolution (or should I just say Kansas) should become embryologists.  It
would either make them contemplate their religion or give them something
else to say was "created by the devil
   -Jason

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:44:07 +0000
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: REPLY TO ME!

i visited ur site, read ur ideas..
let's assume 4 the sake of argument that god does not exist
given that u r a TRUE scientist, tell me
is the world eternal or created?
is there a soul in our bodies?
why do we differ in actions?
is there a secong life?
where did the universe come from?
when did it all start?
did time exist before?or is eternity broader than time?
even aristotle had to admit a bigger power :)
if after thousands of years u still can't gve convincing answers, who can?
are you a real person?how can u confirm ur existence?
what's the point of life given ur ideology?
every moving creature comes from a mover, how far in distance and time can u
logically explain this?(u r a scientist so the use of logic is a must;) )
good luck!

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:38:50 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: elaboration

ten wrote:
>
> elaboration: you have a well maintained site devoted to showing the obvious
> faults in religious logic. this is what i thank you for...
> keep teaching

	Thank you for the encouragement.  :o)  I'm doing what I can, however I
have discovered in the nearly 7 years I've been doing this, that you can _not_
convert a christian (or any other type of theist) into an atheist by simply
giving them logical explanation, or teaching skeptic/critical thought.

		You can't convince a believer of anything; for
		their belief is not based on evidence, it's
		based on a deep seated need to believe.
		-- Carl Sagan

	What I have discovered goes back to the old saying "you can't make a
silk purse out of a sow's ear".  You may have never heard that saying before,
it's a Midwestern euphemism, and I am from farm country (the bible belt).  :o)
Those who believe in god(s) simply do NOT have the acumen to become atheist, no
more than a lap dog can aspire to become a rocket scientist.  There will
forever be only a tiny percentage of the population which is atheist, because
there will always be only a tiny percent of the population which is intelligent.

	Thus, I guess what I am doing here is as I've described, performance
art.  It makes the atheists laugh, and the christians furious.  Either way, I
am the winner, because my goal is to produce POWERFUL ART!  This site is true
mental masturbation in its purest form, since one can NOT make another _more_
atheist by mere words, you either are or you are not, just like being pregnant.

James

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:50:18 EST
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: why???

I have one question. The so called first anti christ said that he was
heavily reigious this is what i dont understand. I do NOT belive in god
what-so-ever. i dont kno how to cope with pple who do. No body in this
whole earth is like me. They all belive in it in a way. I hate god a man
wrote the bible so it is fake. Virgin mary was raped and thought it was a
miracle so u kno i need some help on how to get through this because i am
a GOD HATER so u kno bye bye
ps why are pple goth and still belive in christ??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The Goth Queen

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:29:35 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Taking control

Gabriel wrote:
>
> Greetings again James

	Glad to hear from you again Gabriel!  :o)

> As you have seen in my previous message we really do have a problem here
> with our negroes. They have a culture of stealing and other voilent crimes
> going back
> centuries.

	This is well understood by those of us who are intelligent.  The negro
is just as they appear, a subhuman, more beast-like than whites and asians.
Ralph Bakshi made an animated movie in the early 80's called "Fire and Ice"
wherein the negroes are shown with slightly exaggerated beast-like behaviors,
and in the movie, they are referred to as "dogs" and "subhumans".  It is
impossible to see movies like this today, because the negro is a tool of the
jew, and the jews own and/or control nearly all of the mass media in this
country, and in the world.

	The controlled media in this country hides the fact of black on white
violence, and exaggerates the rare event where whites retaliate.  Most people
in the USA never hear of the atrocities committed by blacks upon whites.

Wichita-Massacre.com
Your only source for the shocking eyewitness testimony of the
lone survivor of America's most suppressed massacre
http://www.wichita-massacre.com/

Four young White people were kidnapped, beaten, raped, forced to rape each
other, tortured, and killed. A fifth victim, a 25-year-old school teacher, was
left for dead, but survived and is now testifying against the two Black male
attackers. Multiple rapes by the Blacks resulted in her now being infected with
a sexually transmitted disease. While the Jewish media promoted national
'outrage' for many months against the alleged excessive force used by police
against Black criminal Rodney King, they have been almost silent on the Wichita
Massacre.  http://www.hatecrimes.net/wichita.html

The truth about hate crimes. A Report on racial crime statistics produced by
the New Century Foundation that you will never never hear from the controlled
mass media.  http://www.hatecrimes.net/

	Of course to you Gabriel, this is old news.  By the year 2023 the white
will become the minority in the USA, then we too will live YOUR reality.

> On 12 October 2001 I was shot in a botched
> robery attempt but at least I got my payback by putting
> a cap in his ass or at least through  his stomach.I on the other hand got
> shot in my lower left leg and the funny thing is that I didn't feel a thing
> untill I looked down and
> saw this mass of blood gushing out of two small holes.
> It missed critical muscle and bone tissue by one or two
> centimeters that if they got hit could have costed my my leg.

	At least you had an "illegal weapon" to defend yourself, because as I
understand it, the government has disarmed the whites in South Africa.  We are
soon to lose our Constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms in _THIS_
country as well, the liberal socialist jews who own the media are seeing to
that.  Soon, the only people who will have guns will of course be the outlaws
(blacks and the jew controlled government).

> The next big evil is affirmative action causing compitent
> and skilled persons to be replaced by imcompitent and
> unskilled black morons , an example of corrupt state officials:

	We have the same exact, stupid thing in this country.  When I was last
in University, they had a policy whereby blacks were given a TWO GRADE POINT
ADVANTAGE over the whites and asians.  This of course means, that if the negro
does absolutely nothing, answers 100% of the tests wrong, he still graduates
with a C (average) grade.  By this policy, a CHIMPANZEE could graduate as a
DOCTOR with a C grade.  These negroes are allowed to attend class, and I (white
tax payers) foot the bill.  They have their books, tuition, and housing paid,
while I had to work an 8 hour shift, 6 days a week as a chef in a restaurant to
obtain _my_ first degree.  Thankfully, there was only _one_ way the negro could
fail, and that was by simply failing to attend the class, or failing to take
the tests.  Much to my surprise, 100% of the negroes in _my_ class were out by
the end of the first semester.

> A black bitch getting paid $75000 a year for doing nothing but talk on the
> phone with friends and drinking coffee all day long while white persons
> under her must do her job for her because she has the education of a turd.

	There are a lot of white and asian people reading this who work with
negroes hired under the government mandates who fully understand your remark.
Keep in mind however, that this _only_ applies to the AFRICAN negro, defined as
having a face structure, and small ears like that of a gorilla.  Brown skinned
people from Pakistan and India are amazingly as cultured, civil, AND
INTELLIGENT as any white or asian.  It is specifically the African negro which
is problematic in this (and in every) country.

> The only reason she got this position was because she
> is a relative of someone higher up and this is hardly a unique situation in
> a goverment rife with corruption.

	Most people have never heard where Mugabe's sister (Mugabe being the
president-for-life of Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia) had a white man killed so
she could occupy his house.

The white Zimbabwean farmer murdered by a mob was allegedly targeted 16 months
ago by the sister of Robert Mugabe - who wanted his house for herself.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_549389.html
http://www.mdczimbabwe.com/other/landinv/starsa001117landtxt.htm
http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2002/03/20/story43722.asp
http://www.namibian.com.na/2000/November/africa/00B6D4FFD3.html
http://www.samara.co.zw/infoline/march/19-mar.htm

	What kind of a monster is this Sabina Mugabe?  She had a man dragged
out of his own house, beaten to death, then she assumed occupancy of the house,
sleeping on the murdered victim's bed, eating off his plates, cooking in his
kitchen, and sitting in his parlor.  Only an INHUMAN BEAST could do this!

> In my previous job last year I saw what the public was forbidden to see in
> the form of crime statistics.While the police was upgrading their computers
> I got top security clearance to work in sensitive areas to install new
> computers and make sure that they work properly.
> The numbers that I saw shocked my very core. Rape,
> murder,assault  and other voilent crimes was of the charts in most areas in
> my province alone.I wish I had a copy of those statistics but before we left
> each sensitive area we were searched for any computer media that may be on
> our person.

	If they were networked, you could have uploaded the data somewhere
offsite for later retrieval.  However, we've all seen the recent Cleveland
Riots here, we know what the negro is capable of.  Although none of the riots
were shown on the Electric Jew (television) the Internet exposed the travesty
very well.  Those riots were triggered when a white cop shot a black criminal.
In this country, only a black cop can shoot a black, however either race can
shoot a white.  Also, negroes are exempt from "hate crime" laws as well.

> In my bedroom at home I have a SWORD,SHOTGUN,
> GLOCK, BASEBALL BAT, STUN BATON and a
> can of POLICE ISSUE TEAR GAS where I can reach them at a moments notice for
> self defence in the event of an intruder. I was attacked and shot outside my
> gate when the electrical motor failed and I had to open it manually but
> luckely I was armed.

	What are the gun laws in South Africa?  I heard they banned whites from
being able to defend themselves.  Canada, and Australia have instituted similar
laws, the UK has seen a tremendous increase in crime because of those laws.

> One plus point of our country is the fact that you can get
> weed or pot almost anywhere. I once bought half a kilo
> for about $30 (R300) that was Malawi Gold and it was a pure pleasure to
> smoke over the passing months without my parents finding out about it of
> course. My mother with
> her affliction now actually makes tea from the stuff I
> grow in my garden at about two kilos a year in buds with the leaves going
> for my mothers tea.

	Here, it's illegal to believe that marijuana is a medicine, however the
government allows the sale of THC in the form of a pill (Marinol, Dronabinol)
and says the pill is NOT marijuana, nor even related.  That's double-think.

> My older brother the bible nut is also afflicted by
> Cystic Fibroses for which he refuses to take medication
> like any sane or rational person would. He even traveled
> to Nigeria to see  T.B Joshua, a fake negroe prophet who
> claims to heal the sick by praying for them. Sadly even
> though he personally prayed for him he is still sick today
> two years later wich proves that all religious activities are
> all a waste of time and resources.

	Wow, prayer doesn't work.  I'm shocked!  ;o)

> I am now 25 years old with a lifetime of cristianity behind
> me.But the time wasted on this fruitless indeavour can
> never be recovered and this thursday it will be the third
> week of dropping the yoke and freeing myself from this
> crap and I feel better and no longer oppressed .

	Welcome to the very small number who are free of the insanity of
religious dogma.  You may now use Science and study to ENRICH your life!

> Enought of this lets talk science
> Building that laser was extremly rewarding but it suffered
> a plasma tube implosion two days after first light and since it was about
> the time I got my 3 SP907 Helium Neon lasers I just didn't get around to
> take it apart to insert a new tube and to realighn the thing again.I proved
> that it worked but it was just to much trouble to keep running.

	What pressure were you running the gas?  Was the anode iron?  Iron
anodes cause iron vapor deposition along the plasma tube, allowing current to
flow along the edge of the tube, breaking them.  The best solution I've found
is to use titanium plating on the iron anode, how ever if your potential is
greater than 70kv, you run the risk of producing x-rays.  However these are
soft x-rays and easily shielded with layers of cheap steel plate.

	I can't resist talking at this point about the copper vapor laser, you
should think about building one.  They do NOT require tuned resonation, simply
ONE MIRROR to the back, and a cover slip at brewster's angle to the front.  The
emission is usually in the hundreds of watts!  They are a bit more complicated
than the CO2, but you can use the same laser power supply you have now to drive
the CuCl laser, with only minor modifications.

> The one Helium Neon laser is totally misallighned but
> the other two is still lases at 34 to 37 mW and the beams
> are quite spectacular for lack of something better.

	Injection diode lasers are cheap, and have replaced the HeNe in every
application here in the USA.  The only place where the HeNe is still champ, is
in colors _other_ than red, since they've yet to produce yellow, orange, or
green diode lasers.  We have blue diodes now, but they are expensive.

> I would
> dearly love to get my hands on a doubled YAG or even
> a Argon laser

	Argon's were cheap here not long ago.  They were being pulled out of
service on high speed copy machines.  These were 5 watt argon lasers, but were
single line lasers.  Siemens sold a replacement mirror to make it a more useful
multi-line laser, and they typically would put out a bright blue line, a few
bright green lines, and usually a faint violet line.

> but it was shear luck just to get the required
> optics for the CO2 laser and even the HeNe's and it proved imposible to get
> YAG rods and optics and not
> even mentioning the arc, flash lamp KTP crystal or even a diode array at
> reasonble prices.

	Again, here we are lucky, as the hospitals are required to pull and and
dispose of the no-longer legal to use, arc lamp pumped doubled YAG lasers used
in hospitals.  The FDA prohibits them from being used, so for a short period of
time, the hospitals were trying to get rid of them all at the same time, so the
price shot from $50,000 to buy, to getting paid $1000 to remove and haul it
off!  Because they all had to go at the same time, everyone who was quick
enough to get in on a deal, got one.  Some were sold at the ILDA conference
recently, none sold for more than $5,000 and that's _with_ a beam
table/scanners installed (and of course the surgical wand removed).

> I got my 907's from a person who stripped some mainframe
> printers and sold them cheap(about $200) including the power supplies for
> all three.

	Laser power supplies can be used for plasmatization research as well.
If you're like me and like to "vaporize stuff", you have a new use.  :o)

> As for my meteorites I have a few Irons and ordinary
> NWA Chondrites but my crown jewel is my 7.4 KG
> Achondrite that I found myself while searching and
> is in the process of identifying the type.The problem here
> is if the goverment find out about it they will conficate it
> without any compensation whatsoever.

	I found an iron here where I live just a year ago, it's sitting on top
of my refrigerator, I haven't cut it in half yet (to show the crystalline iron
face).  I'd say it weighs just under a kilo, it's a hefty chunk!  :o)  When I
was a kid, I used to find stoney meteorites all the time out on the farm, and
only rarely with my metal detector would I find an iron.  That's why I was so
surprised to find the iron meteorite just 50 meters from my back door!

	We don't have any regulations on owning meteorites here, yet.

> On the computer side of things I have quite a few diplomas and about 5
> computers all to myself at home to
> program on and to experiment with

	Heh, it's worse over here, where you can dumpster dive for pentium II
computers, I have friends that do it all the time!  Whenever I need another
server (and I have quite a few so far) I just buy it on eBay, usually for under
40 bucks!  Of course the Rand is weak, and eBay doesn't allow transactions with
South Africa thanks to the new black leadership there (dishonesty, corruption)
so you probably can't easily or cheaply buy items there.

> I am still new on the subject of genetics but I am slowly learning about
> it.The same goes for nanotechnogy but I find what I know to facinate me
> already.

	I've experimented with mammalian transgenics, I'll share pictures of my
transgenic rat creation with you.  :o)  She's GREEN!  :o)

> As for nuclear weapons and reactors I amassed quite
> a lot of common knowlege about their wokings and also
> some experimental concepts.

	Most physicists and scientists here in the USA could easily build a
10-20 Kt bomb.  Most would easily be able to pull off the gun-type, and a few
the implosion type bomb.  Obtaining critical mass is the major limiting factor
preventing "neighborhood nuclear arms races".  :o)  Most of us here understand
the simple physics of the fission or hybrid (boosted) bombs.

> I may not be a progidy like you but I plan to make the best use of my born
> with IQ of 146. The thing that kept me from reaching my full potential was
> Hyperactivity and
> Attention Deficit Disorder but I have overcome that recently on my own
> without any help from god and
> now I am ready to learn all that I can about everything
> that interests me.

	Hey, I was "hyper-active" as a kid, all those with genius IQ are I
believe.  I slept about 4 hours a day (in my lab) and did things which by all
right should have KILLED me.  :o)  Ahh, those were the fun days.  :o)

	I'm assuming your 146 IQ is the Stanford-Binet score, right?

Cheers!
James

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:47:58 -0800 (PST)
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: hallucination

The most operable way i have found to describe it is: convincing someone
that their imaginary friend is not actually there.... this is possible in
youth but less likely to change as time progresses and the person is set
in their ways. This is of course why the majority of religions are
instilled in their tennents at young ages. I wonder often why god-fearing
people do not see that belief in an omnipotent/omniscient power that
controls your life is a schizophrenia diagnosis waiting to occur. How do
you tell an unstable person that they are unstable, is relatively the same
question.

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:47:23 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: REPLY TO ME!

"Mysterieuse" wrote:
>
> i visited ur site, read ur ideas..
> let's assume 4 the sake of argument that god does not exist
> given that u r a TRUE scientist, tell me
> is the world eternal or created?

	Neither, it is fleeting.  Study the law of Entropy, the 2nd law of
Thermodynamics to understand better.  The universe "oscillates".

> is there a soul in our bodies?

	There is no indication that souls exist.  Paradoxes such as clones
prove life can exist "without a soul" so to speak.  ;o)  Natural clones
(identical twins) either share a soul, or souls do not exist.  Conjoined twins
are another example of the soul paradox, since they are two minds, but one
conjoined body, how could the body have two souls?

> why do we differ in actions?

	Because of the rules of Chaos theory.

> is there a secong life?

	There is no indication that such exists.

> where did the universe come from?

	We are not able to explain that with absolute certainty at this time.
However, as an example, a few hundred years ago, GERMS were not known, and
disease was thought to be the work of the devil.  Funny, today simply washing
your hands prevents you from being stricken "by the devil".  :o)

> when did it all start?

	We have not evolved Science to the point where we are absolutely sure.
Do you want facts, or theories?  :o)

> did time exist before?or is eternity broader than time?

	Time does not exist, it's a concept, a frame of reference used by
humans to better understand their reality and the passing string of events.
http://www.robsworld.org/notime.html

> even aristotle had to admit a bigger power :)

	We've become more intelligent over the ages.  :o)

> if after thousands of years u still can't gve convincing answers, who can?

	I've answered much, and in time, we'll answer MORE.  However, going to
an ancient text which gives answers, FALSE answers is not the solution.

> are you a real person?how can u confirm ur existence?

	Define existence.

> what's the point of life given ur ideology?

	We have no meaning, nor point to our existence, we just are.

> every moving creature comes from a mover, how far in distance and time can u
> logically explain this?(u r a scientist so the use of logic is a must;) )

	This question is illogical and can not be answered.  Several theists
have posed similar questions (like magnets and jelly beans).

> good luck!

	Luck is just another belief system, not rooted in reality.

James

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:26:45 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Antichrist

James: Well, the original antichrist (site proprietor) was a guy named
David, who quit. Leaving apostles to an unknown. And the antichrist we're
talking about is not the one most christians are familiar with, but merely
the biblical definition of "antichrist" (see James' page).

Antichrist: That's highly informative and nauseating to me. So David the
site's proprietor quit and left you to an unknown. A unknown what? I'm
getting too emotionally overtaken by all of this. I think that it's time
for me to gracefully bow out now. I hate to be the one to break the news
to you James, but the Antichrist from the bible is real. I know that he's
real because he's sitting here trying to conversate with you right now.
How I will over you and the other Apostles, I don't know, but your silence
speaks multitudes. I can't convince you that I'm real. If you don't want
to cut covenant with your god. Well, I guess that there is nothing left to
say. I feel like a shepherd with no flock. Where is my f__king flock?
Iâ^À^Ùm not going to ask to be your god. I am your god.

Antichrist

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:45:34 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Vampire Cowboy
Subject: Re: Antichrist

Vampire Cowboy wrote:
>
> James: Well, the original antichrist (site proprietor) was a guy named
> David, who quit. Leaving apostles to an unknown.

	David was the untreated schizophrenic who upon taking way too much
crystal meth, believed he was `The Antichrist'.  I was merely his facilitator.
He and I met on a project wherein he told me of his need to "be seen and heard
before all men".  Up until we met, he was trying to become a famous rock star,
and thus fulfill his destiny and become `The Antichrist'.  However, this was
not working, as he could only barely play the guitar.  Thus I took it upon
myself to help him and single handedly, FULFILL BIBLE PROPHECY AND BRING THE
ANTICHRIST TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!  ;o)  David had never heard of the
Internet (which wasn't yet popular back then) nor shortwave radio.  Both are
VERY low cost ways to be seen and heard before all men.  ;o)  For me, this has
been one very long and very consuming performance art project.

> And the antichrist we're
> talking about is not the one most christians are familiar with, but merely the
> biblical definition of "antichrist" (see James' page).

	There IS only one kind.  I must be some kind of genius, or the
christians are all morons.  I think the origins of a single Antichrist must
have come from a movie or something, because the entity that christians mistake
for `The Antichrist' is actually "The Beast" in revelations.  You can read my
bible quotes in one of the MOTHERLOAD sections to verify this.

> Antichrist: That's highly informative and nauseating to me. So David the
> site's proprietor quit and left you to an unknown.

	His prophecies didn't pan out, so he got bummed and quit.  My
prophecies for Y2K were right on track, as I professed that I would boogie man
scare the crap out of christians worldwide, and with David's help, we did!  :o)

> A unknown what? I'm getting
> too emotionally overtaken by all of this. I think that it's time for me to
> gracefully bow out now.

	Hey, you can call yourself The Antichrist if you like, several people
as of late think they are `the chosen one' and have wrote to me as of late.

> I hate to be the one to break the news to you James,
> but the Antichrist from the bible is real. I know that he's real because he's
> sitting here trying to conversate with you right now.

	Put down the crack pipe, you're not the antichrist, David is.  :o)
First come, first serve.  http://www.antichrist.net/david.html

> How I will over you and
> the other Apostles, I don't know, but your silence speaks multitudes. I can't
> convince you that I'm real.

	Give us money, you can buy our loyalty.  ;o)  David promised me women,
I've yet to see even one, because he bogarted the ONLY groupie we had!

> If you don't want to cut covenant with your god.
> Well, I guess that there is nothing left to say. I feel like a shepherd with
> no flock. Where is my f__king flock? Iâ??m not going to ask to be your god. I
> am your god.
>
> Antichrist

	Hey, if you want to write crazy sh*t, go ahead and maybe I'll post it
on the website.  Four thousand people a day will read it.  However, I've
discovered the hard way it is best NOT to play into someone's mental illness.

James

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:17:44 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Antichrist

James,

I was not expecting to hear from you again. I don't smoke "crack" or drink
or do any kind of drugs. I also can't argue with you on weather or not I
am the Antichrist. David sounds like he had many illusions of grandeur.
That's fine. I suffer from depression. Not quite schizophrenia, although
some of my friends have insinuated it, I don't think that I have that
particular mental illness. Like I said before. Multiple peel believe that
they are or can become the Antichrist. However, they are not! I am not
some strung out junkie who can not stop smoking the broken pieces of
stucco that have fallen into and become immeshed in the carpet.

I can not help it that I was born Luciferâ^À^Ùs Son. The devil may have
many children, but he only has one Son. That's me. Not someone else. It's
written in the sky that I'm God's Son. Heaven and Earth both testify to
this. Though I would like to believe that there is not a "God", I can not
deny myself. I am God incarnate. Nothing can change that. It's my fate.
Itâ^À^Ùs not vanity or narcissism. Just because some poor delusional and
possibly mentally ill people conceived themselves to be The Antichrist or
Jesus does not make it so.

Iâ^À^Ùm sorry that David could not get you any pussy. I imagine that the
devil makes a lot of promises that he can not keep.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my letter.  I was a little distraught
today. I fell better now though. James, when you say that Iâ^À^Ùm not the
Antichrist, that hurts. Be a little bit more sensitive, would you? If
Iâ^À^Ùm not the Antichrist, then who is? David? I donâ^À^Ùt think so. I
think that he really wanted to be the Antichrist, but did not have a clue
about what or who the Antichrist is or what his mission here is on earth.
I think that he needed to set the cr__k pipe down for a while. Maybe he
had general ideas, but thatâ^À^Ùs all. He was not the Antichrist. That is
not what the Antichrist is about. This conversation is getting a little
too serious. Change subject.

Although I enjoyed the way that you dissected my letter like a lab mouse
on a steel tray, it is unnecessary.  You are more important to me than
having some shocking letter published on your web site, James. If you can
get back to me in the next few days. I would appreciate it. Although I am
not surprised that you do not think that I am the Antichrist that the
bible foretold, Iâ^À^Ùm hoping to change your mind someday. That may not
happen since you do not believe in god from what I read on your web page.

The Antichrist

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:35:55 +0000
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Some humor


Greetings James
I wanted to send these pictures that I found on a webesite yesterday but I
sort of forgot. These warning signs should be put on every bible and also
on the doors of churches.

I also have nothing against Asians or Indians. As a matter of fact I have
quite a few as friends.As for guns we can at least have one for self
defence and we may keep our hunting rifles.As a matter of fact the white
police officer congradulated me but said that I should have aimed higher
which I would have done if I knew that the attacker would try to accuse me
of attempt at murder for shooting first in self defence.It also happened
to my fathers friend who shot four of the five attackers but not fatally.

My shotgun is still legal although the ammunition is not.A 500gr slug is
definatly not legal as it can penetrate almost anything.My 30.06 is also a
crowd pleaser, as the defective hunting ammo I got will turn anyone who
dares to enter my house into mostly a shreded pile of mush as it did to
the buck I shot with it(dont ask, all you need to know is that after
penetration the bullet exploded) if I choose to use it as it is safely
locked away.I am not a voilent person but if push comes to shove I will
kill to survive.

I do dumpster dive someimes to get electronic components that I need and
by doing that I saved $$$$ that it would have taken to buy new stuff.I got
vacuum pumps, high voltage transformers, magnetrons, diodes, capacitors
some PII's and even an X-Ray machine. I even got a big UPS that someone
junked because he botched the battery replacement procedure, a fault that
took me 5 min to rectify.

I used copper electrodes for the CO2 laser and I was looking at building a
Copper Chloride laser. But constructing the pulse timing mechanism is
quite a challenge with my limited resouces at my disposal at this time.
Playing around with high voltage NST's I got the idea to build a tesla
coil all I need to do is to find a source of the needed wire and I am set
to go. One other project is to build a microwave cannon to fry electronics
at a distance but I am still learning how to construct waveguides.

My IQ test was the education department standard test. I always knew that
my IQ was above average but my results only became known to me after I
turned 21 which took me by surprise to say the least.

One other point is Negroes and cars.I Personally was only caught speeding
once with a camera and that was to avoid a accident but at least the photo
showed how close the other car was to my rear end by being with me in the
picture and hence got of scott free.While she still could drive my mother
had two accidents: all with negroes and in all three cases they tried to
sue my mother for damages incurred even though they were at fault. one was
even chased by the cops and skipped 5 red lighs before grazing my mother's
car an plowing into a tree at ~100kph .Unbelievable as it may seem the
four occupants of the car jumped out and ran away. When I saw the car
after my arrival the windscreen was broken from the inside out by the two
front occupants heads and the steering colum was bent. Not one of them
wore seat belts as the car was so run down that it did not have any.We
don't call them "Houtkoppe" or Woodheads for nothing :-)

The other one was a taxi (you know about our fleet of unroadworthy mini
bus taxi's do you?) :-) that got wrapped around a tree when it tried to
overtake my mother, nicked her and lost control in a rainy situation.

I saw quite a few brand spanking new cars still with paper numberplates in
the windows with multiple deep scratches, dents, broken lights etc...
driven by negroes that doesn't give a sh*t about anything. It is not cheap
cars either, but top of the range BMW,MERCEDES and even LEXUS cars that is
treated like sh*t.It makes me want to cry.All I can say is: Even if an APE
wears a golden ring he still is an UGLY thing :-)

Cheerio
Gabriel

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:09:37 -0600 (CST)
From: Ryan
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Hi James
My name is Ryan and I just read your site. Let
me first say I totally disagree with you. I am not
here to rant curse you or try to fill your head with christianity. You
are entitled to your way
of thinking and I am entitled to mine. I am curious as to how you became
so bitter. You
don't have to answer I was just wondering.
If I may I would ask you to think about this one
thing. Just suppose there was a God. What if
there was a Heaven and Hell. Would you really
want to go to Hell? Somebody is right and somebody is wrong. Can you
truthfully risk it.?
I saw people on your site cursing you telling you you're going to Hell
and I do not agree with
that tactic. I am just a guy who knows what he
believes and want to try to get to know others.
You probably get a lot of hate mail so I thought
you might like a change. Give me a response if
you want I would love to talk.
                                                 Sincerely,
                                                     Ryan


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               style to Jeff?  The username is different from Jeff's, but
               the ISP is the same, and the ISP is not a very common one
               either.  In fact, Jeff is the only person from this
               uncommon ISP to ever write me. Curious, yes?


Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:23:56 +0000
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: REPLY TO ME!

thx 4 the reply, impressing!
I can argue against everything u said, but let's just stick to this
"> what's the point of life given ur ideology?

"We have no meaning, nor point to our existence, we just are."
                                                       James

we just are, sounds like we just exist ;)
define existence given this phrase, which ironically was written by you
Science says that the opposite makes its opposite exist, i.e, the night
exists because of the day, the dark exist because of the light,..
If Devil exists, then does God exist?

my Aristotle question was purely LOGIC, given that he himself discovered the
basic concept of this terminology, which science itself is based upon. I
strongly require that u retake my question into consideration.
P.S: I am not a believer !!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:03:26 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: AIDS and other diseases

Greetings James

With at least 2 out of every 5 mostly black persons in my country is
infected with AIDS I have come up with a simple theory how it started.

You are aware of the bush meat trade in central Africa in which
everything, even great apes are considered meat for the pot. In my
scenario one of these trappers cut himself while slaughtering a carrier of
the desease and doesn't think anything of it because he doesn't know. when
he got enought money he seeks out a whore and have some umprotected
sex.The whore contracts the desease and spread it to her other clients,
mostly migrant workers and truck drivers who the spreads it to other
whores in other countries. Before you know it the desease spread across
the globe and only when reports of strange deaths start to appear does
anybody realise that something is wrong and discover the disease to late.

Superstition plays a significant role on the spread of the disease as well
as they blame witches and even the tokolosh for their problems.Another
thing is that if they rape a virgin they will be cured of the desease or
so they believe.Even though they know that they are HIV positive most of
these ignorant savages continue to have sex with multiple partners not
having a care in the world or they just kill they "witch" and her family
and presume that they are cured from the curse.In these savage and
desperataly poor areas even common natural disasters is blamed on witches
and anybody who is the least suspicious has their hut burned and then they
are killed in horrible ways including "neclacing" where a victim has
diesel and petrol thrown of\ver his body an old car tire put around his
neck after which he is set on fire to burn alive. They pehaps didn't show
the images of these crimes in america to show the true savage, merciless
and sadistic nature of the NEGRO but I saw them on the police computers.

They don't love their own children as was evident in the story that I read
a few years ago about people going on vacation in Botswana. A negro father
pushed his young pikanien or son in front of their vehicle in what clearly
was a setup to extort money. In less than ten seconds they were surounded
by a mob for a few hours untill they could pay "compensation" for the
pikanien's death. the funny thing is that the police was suporting the
crowd and even arrested the people in the vehicle after the crowd
despersed and took almost everything belonging to them.The funny thing is
that the pikanien's body was not even moved from the road and some
vehicles even drove over it, pulverising it.

The way these savages treat animals are shocking. to punish some of the
remaining farmers still holding out in Zimbabwe the mutalate their farm
animals in ways that almost made me puke.If I had my way the "pesons" who
does this and find delight out of causing suffering would die in very
"interesting" and slow ways by now.

I may have hunted but at least my skill with my rifle and tracking skills
helped me to make a quick clean kill every time and I never caused
suffering and as I was a cristian then I even prayed after every kill for
forgiveness for killing something so magnificent. I don't hunt anymore but
those memories of the thrill and exilaration will stay with me forever.I
hunted for the experiece of man's primal nature to feel the thrill of the
chase after your quarry through thorn bushes as if they are thin air after
you pulled the trigger. It all proved to me that man wasn't created but
that we evolved from more primitive species.

Death doesn't scare me because it is just part of nature and you live on
in your children anyway but my number one rule is to shoot a intruder or
attacker first and then ask questions. You only have one life afterall and
to live forever will take all meaning and joy out of life anyway.even the
Universe is not forever and will be gone in 100 trillion years or so
leaving only a void or pehaps rebirth in another big bang.

I found out that a civilian in my country may not own a laser above 5mW in
power which is a big fun spoiler for me but at least almost nobody knows
about it just like our meteorite laws so I don't care in the least about
these stupid laws that nobody know about anyway.

I just want to say what an idiot Jeff is after reading trougth your
motherload sections all these other so called cristian experts are moron's
of limited intellect and they reject everything and everyone that
contradict them and their propaganda. I still pretend to be a cristian to
prevent myself from being disowned and rejected by my family and
community. My father has close ties with the head pastor of the gaint
nearby church and he even commented about the dragon background I had on
my computer then calling it satanistic and evil when he came into my room
to pray for me.My older brother destoyed my Metallca collection as well,
saying that the head singer made a pact wth satan and that all the CD's
are evil. I had the last laught because I tranferred my intire collection
of metal to MP3 format.I forgave him for that as a good cristian that I
was then I even forgave him for breaking my nose in Grade 11 costing me
reconstructive surgery and now my nose doesn't even resemble my old one.

In a charateristic move of a religious fanatic he called me a demon
possesed child of SATAN after I say'd a few swear words when I got home
from a bad day at work. in my normal calm mode I show to my family
members, ignored him and just walked past him. HE became aggresive forcing
me to use my now superior skills to subdue him with one hand and have him
say that he is sorry before I released him.No harm done I forgot about it.
However as a true cristian he had to have the last laugth and attacked me
like a madman with a KNIFE from behind saying things like purging the
DEVIL from me and child of SATAN.I disarmed his clumsy attack and again
subdued him and was about to beat the crap out him when my father saw us.
He scolded me for fighting with my brother and asked the supposedly sick
and "good" cristian brother of the hook. I did not tell him of the
cowarldy attack with a knife but I did tell him about the other things.
And yet he scolded me AGAIN for saying things about the black bitch that
messed her new computer up three times on that day causing me to drive
three times to her to fix it.He also say'd that I should thank god for my
work after"I"searched and arranged interviews to get it.Thi happened in
1999 but I am still prepared for anything from that zealiot of a older
brother.He must also be a scizo because he talkes gibberish to himself all
the time while reading the bible but in this house it is a sighn of faith
and devotion. He is now 27 years old he did not work a single day in his
life getting everthing from my parent's not doing anything. I on the other
hand must pay rent and other expenses from the money I make with my
sweat.They even expected me to tithe but I refused to pay another tax.At
least I have my computers and other stuff that they cannot touch to keep
me busy.

I still love my family and would die to protect them even though they are
a pain in the ass but My zealiot brother must just try anything and I WILL
pulverise him but not do permanent damage like he did to me.

ALL religeous zealiots are alike: Morons, chaotic and set in their ways to
try and turn law abiding citizens into madmen. The parody site: Landover
Baptist church are not far from the truth when it comes to religion in
general showing exploitation and deception on a massive scale while raking
in mountians of cash.I realised that all church sevices are the same and
only differs with the proverbial SUGAR TOPPING. while the message is
repeated from week to week, over and over again to brainwash the masses.If
it wasn't for the chains of religion we could already be imortal with the
help of science and be in true paradise.Instead we are still struggling to
meet basic needs of the current world population an we are further
hampered by most of the world leaders being religeous and against research
that could prolong lives and save millions by eradicating diseases.By
making the decision 3 weeks ago to leave religion behind my eyes are
finally open to the lies of all religions accross our world. If people
still want to be deluded I say that it is their choice and I won't even
try to convert their brainwashed minds as they must see the truth behind
the curtian for themselves and to become logical and more productive
persons.

Cheerio and thanks for helping me ovecome the thing called religion

Gabriel


Editor's note: I am quite glad to be able to help, and I hope you can help
               others to overcome their memetic infections and rid
               themselves of christianity! Since the negro has not yet
               made it to the Internet in any detectable numbers, we may
               for now, use this medium to discuss ways to protect our
               future and the futures of our people. Remember, society
               says it is OK to have the BLACK ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL, the
               NAACP which only contributes to BLACK causes, and the UNCF
               which only aids BLACK college students. Somehow, this is
               NOT racist. If the multiculturalist jews get their way, the
               USA will no longer be the country you remember, but more
               like the country Gabriel describes! Do you want that? Join
               the National Alliance. http://natall.com/


Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:59:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Ryan
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Hi James
I don't blame you for blocking that Jeff's address. However most of what
he said
was the truth. I do not agree with the names
he called you but he seems to have a love
for our God. I just want to say I read his last
post and by you not responding and banning
him it makes you look bad. You have not from
what I have seen defended yourself. It kind of
makes people think you are afraid of something. hope to here from you
soon.


Editor's note: See previous comment regarding my curiosity about this
               user.


Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:38:06 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Gabriel
Subject: Your most informative emails.  :o)

Gabriel,

	I will be posting your _most_ informative emails in the MOTHERLOAD 4
section on the website.  I'm sure the yanks will read it and not believe any of
it, even tho _your_ fate is soon to be OURS as well!  Here, the negro is only
12% or maybe now 13% of the population, the jew is about 2%.  The negroes
commit 93% of all violent crimes here in the USA, thankfully most of it is
black on black crime that occurs in the (now abandoned) inner cities which have
been taken over by the negro hordes.  Out of sight, and out of mind.

	If the liberal socialist jewish agenda becomes prevalent, even the USA
will descend into a third world status.  I've watched the fall of the Rand, the
implosion of your economy, and the fall of your society post-Apartheid.  As I
tell everyone, Apartheid (what we used to call Segregation) is NOT a bad thing,
it's the same as putting your dog on a chain.  Allowing dogs to run loose, they
get into packs, and the packs cause trouble.  Keeping them chained keeps the
dog AND it's owner safe!  Apartheid was a good thing for the negro, the way
they live now, they are doomed.  Also, if Apartheid was such a bad thing, why
did South Africa have a problem with illegal black emigration?  The reason is
simple, that with Apartheid, blacks lived better, safer, and healthier lives!

James

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:17:53 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Gabriel
Subject: Re: Some humor

Gabriel wrote:
>
> Greetings James

	Greetings Gabriel!  :o)  I'm going to skip to the Science stuff, since
all I can say on everything else is "OK" and "Yup, I agree".  :o)  I'm glad you
sent it so I can include it on the website and HOPEFULLY wake up the white
sheeple who are blissfully unaware of the fate that awaits them.

> I used copper electrodes for the CO2 laser

	I've never used copper, would think a soft metal like that would ablate
away immediately.  Tungsten and titanium are two choice metals, iron is OK.

> and I was looking at building
> a Copper Chloride laser. But constructing the pulse timing mechanism is
> quite a challenge with my limited resouces at my disposal at this time.

	I had a bit of trouble designing that one myself.  I initially tried to
go with electronic timing, but that didn't work.  Eventually I went with an
experimental `brute force' method, and WHOA, did THAT work WELL!

	What I did was place two copper wires side by side in a plexiglas disc,
in groups of two, initially just estimating the distances.  The copper wires
would act as bridges in a spark gap.  The disc was spun, and the rate of
rotation adjusted that the dual-pulse separation was just right.  This solved
my problem, got the laser running, but was _far_ from ideal.  The first problem
was the separation between the two-pin-groupings.  It was too far.  Adding more
pins in between caused the laser to sputter.  I still believe that a totally
electronic solution is the right answer, but have yet to perfect it.  I used
CuCl in my laser for the lasing medium, and quartz glass for the tube.

> Playing around with high voltage NST's I got the idea to build a tesla
> coil all I need to do is to find a source of the needed wire and I am
> set to go.

	Tesla is one of my GODS!  :o)  He was so cool, years ahead of his time.
Of course, here in the very country where he developed everything we use today,
from electric motors to transformer regulated AC power, he of course received
NO CREDIT FOR ANY OF IT, granting the credit falsely to his rival (and
employer) Thomas Edison (and sometimes George Westinghouse).

> One other project is to build a microwave cannon to fry
> electronics at a distance but I am still learning how to construct
> waveguides.

	Man, I wish you were here, we could have SO MUCH FUN!  :o)  Wave guides
are relatively simple, but the size needs to be a submultiple of the frequency,
sort of like a tuned antenna, so as not to cause standing waves.  I often use
cheap aluminum ducting for such applications and discarded microwave ovens for
my source of magnetrons.  :o)  Work safely, and keep a neon bulb taped to your
safety glasses.  If the bulb lights, you know what THAT means!

James

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:18:58 -0800
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Athiest church

Dear Brother,

I am from an athiest church http://creator.org

check out as a start of our beliefs as far as Christianity goes:
http://www.creator.org/holybooks/wmb/credo47.html
http://www.creator.org/holybooks/wmb/credo48.html
http://www.creator.org/holybooks/ner/ner-1-17.html
http://www.creator.org/holybooks/ner/ner-1-12.html


Rahowa! (Racial Holy War)
Alaric

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Editor's note: This is an excellent site! Everyone should check out the
               links above! This is not a bogus religion, based upon
               mythos. Although my primary religion is of course Science,
               given the times in which we live, this one comes in at a
               very close second!

Last night I talked to David, the Antichrist by telephone.  He is still unwilling to get back on the internet, but wanted me to include a few of his words here.  He wanted me to tell everyone reading this site: Give peace a chance. From the bird in the hand (rather than the two in GW Bush) David - The Antichrist

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:32:49 -0600
From: Zach
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

"Molecules are made up of atoms, but your words show that you don't
understand Scientific concepts so this is why you believe in god(s).  Were
you mentally competent enough to understand what I have explained over and
over in many places on this website, you would also be an atheist."  - James

Your right, I dont understand scientific concepts very well, but thats not
why I believe in God.  And there is no way I consider myself an atheist, I
dont even know why you said that?

"If you only study one religion, you will believe it to be the only one.
When you study ALL religions, you will come to the conclusion that they are
all equally worthless"  - James

I agree with you right there, If you only know what you practice all your
life the only reason you practice it is because thats all you've ever known,
But , I have studied and looked into other religions and I dont buy any of
them. The reason I believe what I believe is because God has proved to me
that He is real and there is life after death, and anyone who believes in
him will not perish but have ever lasting life.
John 3:16

"I don't celebrate christ-mass, however I do celebrate Winter Solstice." -
James

Did you know that Winter Solstice (Yule) Is actually a Satanic and
Witchcraft holiday? And I thought you were an atheist not a Satanist?

"Usually religious people get pissed off talking to me." - James

Then mabye im not like everyone else you've met or talked to. I enjoy
discussing and listening to other peoples opinions and thoughts.

James, Sorry its been so long since i've written, i've been pretty busy
lately. I have another question also - Since we've already established that
I dont understand much about science, I was wondering how you think this
whole world, life, space, etc. actually got here? Good talking to you again.
Thanks for your time.

                   Zach

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:14:54 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Zach
Subject: Re:

Zach wrote:
>
> "Molecules are made up of atoms, but your words show that you don't
> understand Scientific concepts so this is why you believe in god(s).  Were
> you mentally competent enough to understand what I have explained over and
> over in many places on this website, you would also be an atheist."  - James
>
> Your right, I dont understand scientific concepts very well, but thats not
> why I believe in God.  And there is no way I consider myself an atheist, I
> dont even know why you said that?

	I suggested that if you DID understand what I understand, you too would
be atheist.  If you knew and understood Scientific Principia, there is a very
high likelihood you would abandon belief system, for knowledge (as I have).

	Now as for the reason why you believe, there are two possibilities
there, ignorance of the truth, or a deep seated NEED to believe.

> "If you only study one religion, you will believe it to be the only one.
> When you study ALL religions, you will come to the conclusion that they are
> all equally worthless"  - James
>
> I agree with you right there, If you only know what you practice all your
> life the only reason you practice it is because thats all you've ever known,
> But , I have studied and looked into other religions and I dont buy any of
> them. The reason I believe what I believe is because God has proved to me
> that He is real and there is life after death, and anyone who believes in
> him will not perish but have ever lasting life.
> John 3:16

	There is no indications which suggest that statement is anything more
than wishful thinking.  Every human knows their own mortality, and it scares
them, but is a white lie used for comfort the proper recourse?  Isn't cold hard
truth always preferred to sugar coated falsehoods?

> "I don't celebrate christ-mass, however I do celebrate Winter Solstice." -
> James
>
> Did you know that Winter Solstice (Yule) Is actually a Satanic and
> Witchcraft holiday? And I thought you were an atheist not a Satanist?

	Every religion from satan to jesus (and all things in between) mark the
Winter Solstice.  It is the shortest day of the year, the first day of Winter.
I can't help it that other religions adopted this ASTRONOMICAL EVENT to portray
the birth date of their gods or whatever, but as for me, I'm not celebrating
any deity, but merely the astronomical event (the shortest day of the year).

	I also celebrate the first day of Summer (around June 21) as well, the
Summer Solstice.  Again I stress, this does not mean I relate the event to gods.

	Note, the Summer Solstice is the _longest_ day of the year.  I just
thought I'd point that out since it has confused some people in the past.

> "Usually religious people get pissed off talking to me." - James
>
> Then mabye im not like everyone else you've met or talked to. I enjoy
> discussing and listening to other peoples opinions and thoughts.

	All rightey then.  :o)  But I do warn you tho, I can be such a prick!

> James, Sorry its been so long since i've written, i've been pretty busy
> lately. I have another question also - Since we've already established that
> I dont understand much about science, I was wondering how you think this
> whole world, life, space, etc. actually got here? Good talking to you again.
> Thanks for your time.

	My theories would take volumes to explain, but in the end, they would
be only that, theories.  Frankly, we don't know for sure.  But one thing I do
know for a fact, and that the origins of life on this planet (and on any future
planets where we may discover life), they all came about by NATURAL PROCESSES.

James

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:55:50 -0800
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Athiest church

Dear Brother James,

We are spread out all over.  Pierce was a member of the same church.  But
our founder died and then we got a new guy--Matt Hale who runs it pretty
well.  Pierce is dead now too.  But his group is http://natvan.com and still
has a ton of members and growing strong.  We are athiest and believe in
nature.  I would recommend reading Natures Eternal Religion--it's a good
book, my favorite.  I read Nietzsche's Antichrist, that's a good book too
although I think he was misinformed as far as the Moors go.  I've also read
Nietzsche's: The Gay Science, On the Use and Abuse of History, Ecce Homo,
Geneology of Morals, and most of Beyond Good and Evil, and Thus Spake
Zarathustra.  We created a universal white religion that teaches you to be
strong and sophisticated as well as healthy.  We have actually been
recognized as an official religion, thanks to our leader having a law
degree.  I started out as a satanist and then grew into encompassing tons of
information and soaking up tons of books.  If you want to know anything else
then just ask.

Rahowa!
Alaric

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:02:01 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Antichrist

Apostle James,

I wrote a poem for you. I hope that you like it.

[Poem removed because sender foolishly included the following...]

Copyright © [removed] All rights reserved

The Antichrist

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:34:18 +0500
From: gôô©hëëë
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: HIS words

HIS WORDS:

4:64 We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the
will of God. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come
unto thee and asked God's forgiveness, and the Apostle had asked
forgiveness for them, they would have found God indeed Oft-returning,
Most Merciful.

5:109 One day will God gather the apostles together, and ask: "What was
the response ye received (from men to your teaching)?" They will say: "We
have no knowledge: it is Thou Who knowest in full all that is hidden."

62:8 Say: "The Death from which ye flee will truly overtake you: then
will ye be sent back to the Knower of things secret and open: and He will
tell you (the truth of) the things that ye did!"

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:58:19 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Update to Frederick Page!!!!!!  Please put this on the site!!!

Hey Steve,

Sorry I haven't been on a lot in the past few days.  I've been really tired
and busy.  Please place this updated page to the site.  I am going to try
to answer all your mail today.

Cheers,

4th

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:16:02 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Some humor

Hey dude!  Just so happens I've got a microwave oven that I could play with
that is about to be discarded.  I want to know some neat things I could do
with it.  I will try to bring it home with me Sunday.  If for nothing
else.  At least to tear it apart and learn from its guts.

4th

ps-I think I'd have fun making lasers.

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:18:19 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Your most informative emails.  :o)

Dude, is that true?  They really had a problem with blacks illegally trying
to get into the SEGREGATED country?  Send me some info on that if you
can.  That's really ironic.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:21:19 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Antichrist

PUT DOWN THE CRACKPIPE...HAHAHA.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:24:54 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: REPLY TO ME!

You might suggest this person look up steady-state universe on their search
engine.  Try reading Julian Barbour's The End of Time.  "Good luck"
understanding the book, Mysterieuse.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:39:03 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: elaboration

Just like being pregnant.  Lol!

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:42:28 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: interesting site

Yeah, dude.  I was flipping through the cable channels and I ran across
this clown and his web site.  F*cking Dr. Douchebag should be the name of
it.  He's a f*cking idiot.  And just cause he earned some stupid degree,
which he flips around like his credibility pin, the dumb f*cking
christpuppets believe him.  He obviously doesn't use whatever degree it is
he has.  I hope someone creates a T-Rex in a lab and lets it loose to stomp
his throwback ass.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:46:19 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

I can't believe that this guy even wrote back after all that!

4th

At 01:04 AM 3/9/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>jeff wrote:
> > manson is burning in hell right now so you can get his side
> > of the story when you get there because i really don't care what the
> > ignorant creep has to say.
>
>         Manson is still alive you idiot, he's alive and in prison.  Man, your
>realm of knowledge is so very VERY narrow.  Do a little research will ya?

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:48:01 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

All hail the cosmic muffin!

hahahahahahahahahaha

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:55:19 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

I am completely skeptical of people who USED to be atheists.  Dude, you
should send me all the links about Dr. D*ckface that you can in one
mail.  I want to place them in one folder that I can copy and mail to
people that argue about him with me.

Thanks,

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:58:04 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Your Foiled Propaganda!

Another shining example of idiocy.

4th

At 03:36 PM 3/8/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Legion wrote:
> >
> > This e-mail was originally meant for your first 'apostle' James, as I
> > would rather prefer it being forwarded.... as it pertains to his
> > comments of "The perfect respone to a Christian";

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:57:54 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Message to cristians

Greetings James

I want to send this message to religeous persons who might read it. Three
weeks ago I just decided to grow up so to speak.The church offered me
nothing of value anymore, how many times can you hear the same message
over and over that god loves you and still see the misery and death around
you.I hope that you are not murderous savages like my older brother who
bullied me untill that day in 1999 I kicked his zealiot ass even though he
had a 5' knife he attacked me with out of religeous rage.A year ago if I
found this website I would have mailbombed and flamed the crap out of it
but now I can see the truth about our world and the universe in general.We
are still a savage race of evolved apes, I have experienced it first hand
when I was attacked from behind by a cowardly negro and even my own
brother.I was a good and obedient cristian then who never struck first and
ignored bad things that was said and done to me.I always forgave sins done
to me and always helped people with problems.I still do but only because
like James I am a good person inside.I am not perfect and I still have my
flaws but at least my eyes are open after 25 years of this false religion.

You may think of me a racist or a neo nazi scum but the feelings I have
are justified by what I experienced at the hands of these savage NEGROES
or as we call them CAFFERS. My country may not be as bad as Zimbabwe but
in five years tops it will be, but I will live in the USA or Australia by
then when I immigrate to get away from the voilence in this Country.I saw
the pictures on the forensic lab computers and it will put rotten.com to
shame for pure gore value. They are what they are, a plague to this
planet.Religion is also a evil and if it is gone about 90% of all war and
conflict will be as well and it is even a bigger plague.

There is no god, no hell and definataly no heaven kiddies so go and cry to
mommy and have your tears wiped off OR grow up and embrace the truth that
only oblivion awaits after death and live your lives to the fullest never
looking back at the past. I am not afraid because it is just nature to die
and we live on in our children and their children anyway.The fact that I
broke free shows that I have the will and also the intelligence to take
the harder but also the most rewarding path in the end of the day. The so
called cristian Scientist is only a well read but unsure of his facts
idiot who doesn't really know a thing. He tried to outsmart James and
failed. Jeff also attempted and failed because they are both moronic and
Jeff epecially as he seems to be in control and rational in one email and
totally of his rocker the next.It was quite entertaining to read it but as
James said, he had his chance and now others must speak.One day not far in
the future humanity will have evolved past the need for religion and thus
be more moral and smart society.I may not see it but it will happen and I
am the proof of that glorious day.

You may hate me now but that is okay as I made my choice not to follow
some jewish religion that means nothing and is nothing but the biggest
disaster our planet has ever seen in terms of life, monetary and
scientific losses.

All I say is see you in hell, oh wait I won't see you at all because there
is no hell or heaven.
Goodbye

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:02:06 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

I am so glad you find sites to debunk this Dr. Douchelicker's
website.  He's a real f*ck.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:30:19 -0600
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: website idea

I don't know what exactly you have to do with the website but eh.... I
thought a good idea for a link on the site would be the contradictions in
the bible.  Like the #1 one I normally use against christians if its
Jesus' word that treat others how you want to be treated then why in t
his great apocolypse would god kill everyone that isn't religious that
kinda means he wants to be killed.  And others like the little gay fish
symbol that you see on the back of cars actually means female pregnency
why the hell would a christian say that? anyways ya just a idea I bet you
could setup a webboard for these.

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:50:16 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: HEY!!!  I love motherlode 4 hahaha.

I personally want to answer JTrig's emails there.  You said you didn't want
to start with another Jeff.  Let me handle this guy.  He obviously thinks
he's talking to some kids or something.  I don't get enough hate
mail.  Send me his emails and respond address, dude.  I'll give him a run
for his money.  He sounds like one of those 'it's okay to sell crack to
kids and pimp hos as long as you love jesus' types.  You know what I'm
saying.  The rap fan loser types.  Love jesus smoke rock types.  I'd like
to test his personal level of morality.  And get posted on his purported
website, too.

4th

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:15:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Kevin
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

I am writing this to comment on some things on your site. First of all I
totally disagree with everything you have said. I am a Christian and
I know God exist and you will never change that
I read your Motherload 4 and noticed a lot of post from that Jeff
person. I noticed you said that people could write in and agree or
disagree with him and that is what I am doing, I 100%
agree with him. I do not believe he should have used a lot of the
language he used being a christian but the guy knows the word of God and
did a excellent job defending it. I also  do
not take his stand on saying science sucks but
he has a right to his opinion as well as anyone else. In one of Jeff's
post he was talking about
the fact that science killed. He mentioned that you said anyone killed
by science was already dead. You said he misquoted you actually you
did make that statement I read it I am sure others did. I also noticed
where you blocked him from writing anymore by doing that you are proving
him right I see it and others do too.
You feel no one agrees with him you are wrong.
I notice several post telling you the same things
he has. It does not matter if they mention his name like mockingbird
seems to think. The fact
is most of the christians have agreed with him on a number of points. I
also noticed that one poster mentioned that you were trying to persuade
young people to be atheist. You deny
it but why do you have a site like this anyway. You would not have to
convince other atheist of
your views because they believe the same way you do. You did make this
site to try to get people to deny God. You really need to quit
contradicting yourself because one of your followers might actually wise
up. I look for this
to be posted otherwise you would be a Liar.
You can not say you trashed it because it was cursing you because I have
not said one dirty word. One more thing you called Jeff a Bas%^&*. That
word means an illegitimate child.Jeff knows who his Father is. His name
is Jesus. Jeff is a christian and he knows he is going to heaven when he
dies, He also can't be what you called him because he has  earthly
father named George.    The Bible calls people
without Christ bastards. Your sound like that fits you more than Jeff.
Think about it. If you do not
post this no one will probably ever know but you will know and I will
know if you don't your
a LIAR........


Editor's note: I noticed the same (unique) ISP for Ryan, and now Kevin,
               which happens to be the same unique ISP used by Jeff. Now I
               notice the same look and style of posting between Jeff,
               Ryan and Kevin. Tertiarily I notice that there have been
               only two people who have agreed with Jeff, that being of
               course the two messages that share the same look and style
               as Jeff's writing, namely Ryan and Kevin. Isn't it odd that
               the only people who agree with Jeff are people who post in
               his same style, from his same unique ISP? I noticed in the
               headers of the messages from Jeff, Ryan, and now Kevin that
               the ISP provides an anti-abuse, anti-spam identification
               stamp. I had already guessed the outcome of my
               investigation, but wouldn't you know that the ID stamp
               shows that all three people use the SAME ACCOUNT AT THE
               SAME ISP? Man, Jeff really is pitiful. He is sending fake
               emails to agree with himself. That is pathetic!


Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:03:06 -0600
From: Zach
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re:

"I suggested that if you DID understand what I understand, you too would
be atheist.  If you knew and understood Scientific Principia, there is a
very high likelihood you would abandon belief system, for knowledge (as I
have)."  - James

It goes both ways, If you understood what I do then mabye you would be a
baptist.

"Now as for the reason why you believe, there are two possibilities
there, ignorance of the truth, or a deep seated NEED to believe.
There is no indications which suggest that statement is anything more
than wishful thinking.  Every human knows their own mortality, and it scares
them, but is a white lie used for comfort the proper recourse?  Isn't cold
hard truth always preferred to sugar coated falsehoods?"
- James

Man, I believe what I believe because of alot of reasons, And the same
probably goes for you, But I know theres nothing I can do to change your
mind, And theres nothing you can do to change mine, So we'll just have to
see in the end who was right and who was wrong.

"Every religion from satan to jesus (and all things in between) mark the
Winter Solstice.  It is the shortest day of the year, the first day of
Winter. I can't help it that other religions adopted this ASTRONOMICAL EVENT
to portray the birth date of their gods or whatever, but as for me, I'm not
celebrating any deity, but merely the astronomical event (the shortest day
of the year)."  - James

Thats the point I was trying to make, That even though Christmas may be a
pagan holiday thats not what I celebrate it as, I celebrate it as Jesus'
birthday.

"All rightey then.  :o)  But I do warn you tho, I can be such a prick!" -
James

I think everyone can be a prick at times.

Zach

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:29:45 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Sea Level changes due to melting of ice-caps

In your response to Brandon, posted Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:22:03 -0500 , you
said:

      "God" said there was a flood, that covered all the mountain
      tops. Where did that water recede to?  If both polar ice caps
      were to melt, the
      oceans would rise 28cm, hardly enough to get your feet wet!

I humbly beg to differ with you:

Antarctica has an area of some 6e6 square miles. If covered by an ice cap
of 1 mile average thickness (the numbers I have seen range up to 2 miles
in thickness...), that gives us 6e6 cubic miles of ice. The surface area
of the Earth is roughly 3 * 8000 * 8000 square miles, or  201e6 sq mi.
Dividing 6e6 cu mi by 201e6 sq mi, we arrive at roughly .03 miles, or,
multiplying by 5280...
some 157 feet.  This is a far cry from 28 cm.

Of course, the increase in sea level is going to be greater than that -
not all of the Earth's surface is at sea level. As a VERY ROUGH upper
bound, assuming that all of the water is confined (somehow - by God's
will, maybe?) to the current area of the world's oceans, we arrive (by
dividing by 0.7) at 225 feet.

The actual increase is somewhere between the two numbers, obviously. I
don't have a computer model of the Earth's surface so that I can
integrate the additional area covered by each 1 foot increase in
sea-level, but you get the idea.

And that is supposing that the Antarctic ice-cap is "only" 1 mile thick,
on average.  If it is thicker, obviously, then more land is drowned.  If
you have access to topographic maps of the US, note just how far you have
to go up the Mississippi river to be at 160 ft. elevation, or examine the
topos of the east coast of the US - how far inland, in Virginia, lets
say, does one have to go to be above 160 ft?

There are, obviously, other, secondary, effects.  For example: relieved
of it's burden, the Antarctic continent can be expected to undergo
isostatic rebound: this would increase the volume of the earth's crust
above the current sea floor, thus reducing the volume available to be
occupied by the oceans, thus raising sea-level world-wide. For another
example: the increased burden of the oceans upon the rest of the
continent-bearing plates would cause them to be depressed, due again to
isostatic readjustment, lowering them into the oceans...
Both of the above are obviously not rapid in action, and both would be
accompanied by "tectonic effects" - earthquakes, in other words.

The City of Boston, Ma., is already in trouble, by the way. Every time a
high tide and a nor'easter coincide the sewer system floods: this causes
the system to shut down for the duration of the combined surge.
Increasing the sea-level by even a few feet would cause the shutdown to
become permanent, necessitating a pumping system.

New Orleans and Venice - figure it out for yourself.

Now try to figure out just where all the population that lives below
160ft is going to move to. Ditto the agricultural areas and manufacturing
facilities.

At any rate, if you look at the "Noachian Flood" scenario closely, as
interpreted by they Young Earth Creationists, you will note that there
must have been AT LEAST some 30,000 feet of water in the Flood - the top
of Mt. Everest consists of marine limestone.

If one Googles on "Antarctic ice-cap", one will find a whole bunch of
news releases, etc. on its current state. The latest I have collected is
a report, I believe in Nature Science Update, that the continental
glaciers are surging following the break-up of the Larsen B ice-shelf.
Yes, most of the ice is in the West Antarctic area, but there seems to be
no reason to suppose that the ice-shelves there are not buttressing the
glaciers as they are in East Antarctica.

I wouldn't buy land in Florida: the highest point in that state is only
some 340 ft amsl.

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:45:13 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Jesse

You said, in reference to Jesse Ventura,

      Nope, barely know of the guy, I'm not a redneck.

He isn't a redneck.  He IS blunt and out-spoken, it is true: his
formative years (as a young adult, not as a child) were spent in a
culture (Navy SEALs) in which "little white lies" and other forms of
"politeness" were, literally, LETHAL - people DIED if you didn't state
the honest, plain, unvarnished TRUTH. He never lost the habit. (For that
matter, neither have I. I was US Army Infantry: 1st Bn, 2nd Bde 3rd Inf.
Div - Rock of the Marne.  (You may currently hear it referred to on TV as
"3rd Rock".)  Combat is one environment in which lying, for what ever
reason, is, as I said, LETHAL to your comrades - it is therefore strongly
discouraged.

I do wish Jesse were in the White House. No lies, no shilly-shallying
around, and no tolerance at all for corruption.


Editor's note: I tend to agree. I clearly remember when he was needed to
               appoint someone to replace Wellstone for the senate seat.
               He said he would appoint a common citizen, one not
               indoctrinated into the political scheme of back-room deal
               making. I wish all governors were like Jesse Ventura.


Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:45:26 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Frederick
Subject: Re: Update to Frederick Page!!!!!! Please put this on the site!!!

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
>
> Hey Steve,
>
> Sorry I haven't been on a lot in the past few days.  I've been really tired
> and busy.  Please place this updated page to the site.

	It's uploaded to the site.  :o)  As usual, your microsoft html editor
botched a few things, thus using the vi text editor, I fixed everything.  :o)

	You really should consider editing html by hand, it's the only way to
guarantee your code will be 100% syntactically correct.

> I am going to try
> to answer all your mail today.

	As I see.  :o)

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:50:10 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Frederick
Subject: Re: Some humor

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Hey dude!  Just so happens I've got a microwave oven that I could play with
> that is about to be discarded.  I want to know some neat things I could do
> with it.  I will try to bring it home with me Sunday.  If for nothing
> else.  At least to tear it apart and learn from its guts.

	From my experience, probably the only thing wrong with it is a ceramic
fuse, usually rated around 10 amps, is blown.  Replace that fuse, and I bet it
starts working again.  However, if you don't actually _need_ a microwave oven
for cooking, more is to be gained by ripping it apart and making something else
out of it.  One of the things I used to make out magnetrons is a MASER.  One of
the more interesting properties of a maser is that you can shoot the
collimated, amplitude modulated maser beam at an unsuspecting christian's head,
and talk into a microphone.  The victim will hear `voices in his head' and
think it is GOD ALMIGHTY FROM ON HIGH!  :o)  However, the caveat is that too
much power, or for too long can do to the brain (or more common, the eyes) what
the microwave oven does to food.  Thus I don't recommend doing this.

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:37 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Frederick
Subject: Re: Your most informative emails. :o)

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Dude, is that true?  They really had a problem with blacks illegally trying
> to get into the SEGREGATED country?  Send me some info on that if you
> can.  That's really ironic.

	This is clipped from an old source, before Apartheid ended.  As we can
see with our own eyes, life during Apartheid (and during our Segregation) was
better for both negroes as well as the non-negro races.  We see what the
conditions are like for the negroes in the USA, and we all know that South
Africa has plunged into the 3rd world status in JUST SEVEN YEARS under a
totally black ruled government with black values instilled ( post-Apartheid).

"South Africa has a tremendous problem with illegal Black immigration, having
over one million illegal foreign workers."
White Man, Think Again! 1965, published by author: Jacob, A.

See also:
"There is Black discontent in South Africa it is true, but evidently even more
of it across that country's borders-for how else has illegal Black immigration
become one of South Africa's major problems?"
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p--5_Benson.html

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:54:14 -0600 (CST)
From: Kevin
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

well it looks like you are not going to respond
i have been nice to you. you also mentioned
that piso wrote the new testament. you said
that paul, john, peter. etc. were just fictional people. well i noticed
you believe moses was
a real person. you said he was just like manson
and dahmer and he heard voices in his head telling him to kill people.
well i have news for you Moses wrote the first five books of the
Bible. yes the same Moses you mentioned

i will give you a little more time to respond.
remember if you don't it proves Jeff was right and your a lying phony.


Editor's note: It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this message
               has the look and style of our famous contributor, "Jeff". I
               really do feel sorry for this poor guy, the only people who
               agree with him are people he invents, just like his
               invisible friend he calls `god'. You just can't get more
               pathetic than that. If anyone doubts my claims, feel free
               to write to me and I will send the "X-AntiAbuse: ID =" from
               every message that I have ever received from Jeff, Ryan,
               and now Kevin.  You will clearly see that although they
               contain unreadable encrypted information, they contain THE
               SAME ENCRYPTED INFORMATION! Again, Jeff, you have my pity.


Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:01:30 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Frederick
Subject: Re:

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> I am so glad you find sites to debunk this Dr. Douchelicker's
> website.  He's a real f*ck.

	It isn't hard, since there are more sites that refute Dr. Dino and his
fake credentials, than those who support him by about 50 to 1.  Notice that he
is basically a charlatan, CASHING IN on the christian need to be `right'.

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:05:46 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Frederick
Subject: Re: HEY!!! I love motherlode 4 hahaha.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> I personally want to answer JTrig's emails there.  You said you didn't want
> to start with another Jeff.  Let me handle this guy.

	You got it.  His email address is: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>

> He obviously thinks
> he's talking to some kids or something.  I don't get enough hate
> mail.  Send me his emails and respond address, dude.

	All of his messages are posted, you can reply to them from there.  I do
not know why you _want_ hate mail, but let's hope those reading this posting in
the Motherload 4 section give you your wish (and not any more to me).  :o)

	Send all pro-christian hate mail to frederick@antichrist.net

> I'll give him a run
> for his money.  He sounds like one of those 'it's okay to sell crack to
> kids and pimp hos as long as you love jesus' types.

	Yeah, the world is full of those.  I'm saved, thus I sin.

> You know what I'm
> saying.  The rap fan loser types.  Love jesus smoke rock types.  I'd like
> to test his personal level of morality.  And get posted on his purported
> website, too.

	Good luck to you brother.  :o)  See if you can find out what his
website URL is so we can have a look.  I bet he doesn't get as many as WE get
with our choice domain name (antichrist dot net)  :o)  You just can't beat that!

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:42:46 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Zach
Subject: Re:

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> "I suggested that if you DID understand what I understand, you too would
> be atheist.  If you knew and understood Scientific Principia, there is a
> very high likelihood you would abandon belief system, for knowledge (as I
> have)."  - James
>
> It goes both ways, If you understood what I do then mabye you would be a
> baptist.

	But that's just it, I _do_ understand what you understand.  I've
actually READ your bible, studied the history surrounding the bible, and used
my logical ability to analyze the bible.  I've concluded the bible is bunk.

> "Now as for the reason why you believe, there are two possibilities
> there, ignorance of the truth, or a deep seated NEED to believe.
> There is no indications which suggest that statement is anything more
> than wishful thinking.  Every human knows their own mortality, and it scares
> them, but is a white lie used for comfort the proper recourse?  Isn't cold
> hard truth always preferred to sugar coated falsehoods?"
> - James
>
> Man, I believe what I believe because of alot of reasons, And the same
> probably goes for you, But I know theres nothing I can do to change your
> mind, And theres nothing you can do to change mine, So we'll just have to
> see in the end who was right and who was wrong.

	Everyone uses Pascal's wager as an argument towards believing.  Read my
explanations elsewhere on this site, why Pascal's wager is a waste of time.

> "Every religion from satan to jesus (and all things in between) mark the
> Winter Solstice.  It is the shortest day of the year, the first day of
> Winter. I can't help it that other religions adopted this ASTRONOMICAL EVENT
> to portray the birth date of their gods or whatever, but as for me, I'm not
> celebrating any deity, but merely the astronomical event (the shortest day
> of the year)."  - James
>
> Thats the point I was trying to make, That even though Christmas may be a
> pagan holiday thats not what I celebrate it as, I celebrate it as Jesus'
> birthday.

	Well I celebrate it for what it _REALLY_ is, an astronomical event, the
shortest day of the year, the day the sun is lowest along the horizon.  :o)

> "All rightey then.  :o)  But I do warn you tho, I can be such a prick!" -
> James
>
> I think everyone can be a prick at times.

	Some of us are better at it than others, Zach.  :o)

James

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:54:42 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Sea Level changes due to melting of ice-caps

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, you wrote:
>
> In your response to Brandon, posted Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:22:03 -0500 , you said:
>
> "God" said there was a flood, that covered all the mountain
> tops. Where did that water recede to?  If both polar ice caps were to melt, the
> oceans would rise 28cm, hardly enough to get your feet wet!
> I humbly beg to differ with you:

	Here is an experiment you can perform.  Most of the polar ice is
floating in the ocean, some is on the antarctica landmass, but most is not.
Now for the experiment.  Fill a glass half full of water.  Mark the level on
the outside of the glass.  Now add some ice, note the level rises.  Mark this
new level.  Allow the ice to melt, observe that THE LEVEL REMAINS CONSTANT!

	This is why people who leave glasses of iced drinks don't come back to
a melted (and overflowed) glass of liquid.  Everyone knows this is true.  Also
keep in mind, any warming that causes polar ice melts will make the temperate
regions uninhabitable, so we'd have worse things to worry about than flooding.

	Keep in mind that the liberal "save the earth" organizations that fed
you your statistics EARN THEIR LIVING on the global warming doom scenario.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:03:16 EST
To: frederick@antichrist.net
Subject: A christian with words you might want to read.

Hello, let me start out by saying yes; i am a christian (baptist, not
that it really matters). Why would i be viewing a website called
"Antichrist"?. To speak my opinion. Anyway, before I emailed you I did
some reading on your site to get an idea of what it is about. There are
some things i agree with. What? A christian agreeing? It is true there
are many weak-minded christians and hypocrites. I would like to see a
better effort on the christian community as many of us are lazy. There
are people out there that try a lot harder in life to make it better for
themselves than christians do. Also i abhor two-faced christians; you
know the ones who don't practice what they preach. But we still can't
ignore the fact that we were put here by God and not aliens. God wants us
to strive for a better life and acheive great things all in his name. He
can't help it if people by nature are corrupt.He gave us a great gift of
free will which has been neglected for hundreds of years. I could go on
and on but won't. In conclusion i will leave with this. Believe what you
will because God gave you that right. Believe though not for rebellious
reasons or shameful reasons but because it is in your heart. I believe if
you search your heart you will find a tendency to believe in God. And for
those people who  feel they got dealt a bad hand in life; i could show
you a True christian who got dealt a worse one. Thanks and  remeber life
is short.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:08:59 +1100
From: Tor
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: Well done

Hi Hayden

I would just like to congratulate you guys on your site, it should be a
revelation to many in your country. Though not to me, I agree with almost
every statement in it, coming from good pagan Danish stock as I do (or so I
like to think).

This may be a gross generalisation but I am inclined to think that a great
part of the US's problem with the rest of the world arises out of the
contradictions associated with fundamentalist Christian belief. I think if
more Americans could just relax on the God front, they wouldn't be so
frightened of what lies beyond their borders.

I dashed off a little psalm or is it an an epistle? a chronicle? Perhaps a
Parable? It's not very well written but it sums up my Antichristian
feelings. Forgive the lack of scriptural rigor, After buying a bible, I only
got part way through Genesis before the urge to inform myself was overcome
by the urge not to be bored out of my skull.
--

Tor

Sydney
Australia

    [ Part 2, Application/MSWORD  55KB. ]

In the beginning there was darkness In the beginning there was darkness. Then after some pretty complicated physics there was light. Shortly after the light, some chemistry took place followed by a long intermission during which things got very complicated indeed resulting in self organising systems. We wouldn't recognise it as life because it's hard to conceive of the very basic elements under discussion as alive. The main point about these elements was their ability to recreate themselves from even more basic units in their environment and at each reproduction make and pass on subtle changes to their code which may or may not be of value to a later generation. Sound familiar? Further refinement of the self organising systems resulted in biology, more commonly; life as we know it and later still sexual reproduction. Fast forward a few million years; there's a bunch of human males and females standing around wondering what to do. Of all the animals on the planet descended from the initial self organising systems these were the only ones to recognise the difference between them and all the rest. The difference was that they recognized that there was a difference. Which gave rise to their capability of wondering what to do next. Presently one of the human males suggested something, what it was has long since been forgotten and is irrelevant in any case. What is relevant is that he was instantly and unanimously proclaimed leader by the other humans except for a number of females who were promptly belted over the head and as such became irrelevant. The leader led as wisely or brutally as he felt like until the wildly fluctuating environmental conditions led the rest of the group to speculate that the leader, though imaginative, might not have all the answers and therefore might also not be the best choice in leaders. There was some unrest however armed revolution had not been invented yet so there the matter rested for a time. Another member of the group, a quiet clever one, had observed and remembered that the environmental conditions though wild, fluctuated according to patterns. One day he suggested that the whole group had better move out of the dry river bed on which they camped because in short while it would turn into raging torrent. Many in the group laughed and said that he was mad, particularly the leader who didn't like any one else coming up with suggestions, clever or mad. The quiet clever man left the river bed with a few of the others and lo two days later it flooded sweeping many of the rest of the group to their deaths. Of the few that survived one was the leader. As the quiet man, surrounded by adoring survivors, hauled him dripping from the flooded river the leader recognised the weakness of his position and kept a low profile for a bit. For his part the quiet man kept his own council about the patterns and in the fullness of time was made the priest of the group. Due to the reduction in the population of the group the priest declared that it was incumbent upon the males to impregnate as many of the females as often as possible so that more boys would be born and the god of the raging river would remain appeased. This had the additional advantage of maintaining the irrelevance of the woman, except as baby makers, for a long time to come. Some of that time passed. The leader who was getting a little long in the tooth, felt that he had had just about enough of the upstart priest who had gathered around him a loyal group of followers in a worrying way. So the leader challenged him to a fight. The priest accepted and on the appointed day, surrounded by the entire male population (the women's place was in the cave having babies) they battled under the midday sun. Now the leader was tough old battle axe compared with the priest but the priest was nimble and clever as we mentioned before, Evenly matched, neither could defeat the other outright. As the day drew on with neither able to gain the upper hand. they continued to stagger around each other until the sun went down at which point they collapsed in a bleeding and exhausted heap. Shortly the leader muttered something to the priest to which the priest answered in the affirmative then both dragged themselves off to bed. The following day the priest and the leader appeared together in front of the group and after a few remarks about the importance of maintaining harmony and brotherly love the priest declared, in the name of the river God (who had preserved his anointed sovereign from the flood), that the leader was now king of everyone and everything as far as the eye could see provided that it was understood that this divine right could only be bestowed through the river god's humble servant, you guessed it, the priest and that anything that was done to upset the status quo would be met with an equally divine retribution. The King humbly accepted his divine burden, swiftly slapping a hefty tax on his new subjects and taking a number of extra wives to ensure royal continuity and ruled with a heavy hand (in glove) with the priest for many years. Though not as idyllic and egalitarian as it may once have been the people in the group accepted their lot since the priest had told them that this was as it should be. The king ruled more or less benevolently as long as they paid the taxes and shut up. Some in the group could not help noticing that others in the group had taken jobs as the king's bodyguard and were being paid out of their taxes to guard the kings body against something. This seemed a little odd for what could harm their anointed the king. However the priest once again assured them that this was as it should be since part of the taxes also went into the priest's pocket on behalf of the river god. Soon however the very advantageous relationship between the king and the priest began to pall on the rest of the group as the difference in life styles became more apparent. After a few complaints a few members of the group suddenly found out what the king's body guards were for. The king and the priest saw the writing on the wall and quickly started to look for scapegoats within the group who could be blamed for their deteriorating quality of life. After a few pogroms things improved for a bit then went downhill again when it transpired that pogroms were of no intrinsic economic value. The king and the Priest reasoned that as the group, or more precisely the King and Priest, had exhausted the resources of the land as far as the eye could see, it was time to find some new land and somebody else, preferably outside the group to blame for the inevitable difficulties that would have to be overcome in securing a new motherland, (the name was a sop to the women who were venerated for their endless capacity to make babies). So an expeditionary force was put together out of the members of the group who had done the most complaining. The King and the priest assured them that what they were doing was for the glory of the group and should some of them chance not to return, their memory would live on forever but to hurry up and annex a new motherland or there would be hell to pay. The expeditionary force had only been gone a short while before a scout returned to report that the promised motherland was in fact just over the mountain ridge and was perfect in every respect except for one small snag. There happened to be an almost identical group of people already living there. The King and Priest were both delighted and furious, how dare the land vouchsafed unto the people of the river god be sullied by presence of group of inferior animals who no doubt did not even believe in rivers. It turned out that the other group believed in a god of the mountains. Thereupon the King declared total war and the priest gave it his blessing saying that the land over the mountain could be considered empty as unbelievers did not count as lawful inhabitants. After the few people who questioned this decision were ruthlessly suppressed and thrown into the river as unpatriotic, treasonous heretics, reinforcements were quickly dispatched to the front. The war raged on for many weeks nether side gaining the upper hand until yet another group arrived at the battle field claiming that the whole area including the river and the mountain was theirs according to a treaty agreed with a second group from across the so-called sea. Both these groups apparently worshiped yet other different gods that were nether of the mountain nor the river. The two new groups had decided to put aside their differences in order to pursue the just cause of ethnically cleansing the 'empty' land of rivers and mountains. The king and Priest of the river were incensed and also a little nervous when they noticed that the newcomer's army was twice the size of theirs. Which might indeed give the army from across the sea just cause to exterminate them. After some hurried discussion it was agreed with the envoys from across the sea that they should form an alliance to crush those of the mountain into powder for the glory of the empire ruled from across the sea on condition that they (the people of the river) could have a share of the loot. The agreement was struck and together the two armies attacked with overwhelming force. This should have struck fear into the hearts of their enemies, however due to poor intelligence gathering they were unaware that while they had been squabbling over the carve up of the people of the mountain's land and resources, those people, with the encouragement of their priest had purchased an 'ultimate weapon' from the second group from across the sea. As the hordes of the invincible allied army descended upon them, They decided they would not be able to defend their homeland. Feeling they had nothing to lose and ignoring the most important alternative ever suggested by a woman (not at that time pregnant), they pressed the button on their new purchase which set off some fairly complicated physics And for brief moment everyone saw the light. Document converted from ms word 8 by MSWordView for Unix (mswordview 0.5.14)

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:08:32 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Wow ! what a concept I actually have friends
that come over and borrow my [removed] because they do not have a computer.
I don't expect you
to know anything about having friends. I do not
have to explain nothing to you anyway. As my
friends have stated everything I hae said is true. You need to learn how
to grasp what people say. Every christian that has written you
has told you the same things I have. I am not talking about the science
crap. They have all
made mention of the biblical truths that I have
spoken of. Therefore they have agreed that you are ignorant and on your
way to Hell. I remember reading a post from this Legion person and he is
perfectly correct. You are the one whos pathetic. I do not need or want
your
pity. I hae the Grace of Jesus in my life.
Once again I prove you a liar. You said Timothy
disconnected his e-mail yet I still see people writing him. You are a
Liar. Burn in Hell you
sadistic bastard. Your mother is a bitch.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:24:26 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: frederick@antichrist.net
Subject:

Wow you are brilliant. You hide behind a f*cking retard such as James
and cant be a
man to respond to me on your own. Thats okay
maybe James will let you suck his centimeter
peter to give you comfort in Hell. You faggots are worthless. Everything
James has said is a bunch of lies and he knows it. more than that the
christians know it. He just wont post their writings because he is a
f*cking yellow bellied no good for nothing stinking piece of monkey sh*t
just like you. I have done proved my superior intelligence over his and
he bans me from writing.  You are probably just like him
you have no balls no brain no sense of reality.
Go ahead delete this I suspect you will but I got
out what I want to say. You are a Loser. Go to
Hell asswipe.


Editor's note: "I have done proved my superior intelligence" -- Jeff
               "I have done graduated the third grade" -- Jethro Bodine


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:36:43 -0500
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Sea Level changes due to melting of ice-caps

    Yes, I AM aware that ice floats - given enough water to float in,
that is. Most of the ice in Antarctica is NOT floating.  It is either
sitting on land that would be above water if the ice-cap were removed
(neglecting isostatic readjustment), or is sitting on land that would be
below water if the ice were not there, but the operative word for the
latter is sitting, not floating - the amount of ice above the water-line
is way more than the ace below the water-line. I.e. - there is, in some
areas, upwards of 10,000 ft of ice "sitting" in 500 ft of water.

    Yes, global warming does tend to render the "temperate" regions less
so: however, the increase in sea level causing inundation of low-lying
land areas would cause some moderation of the climate of interior areas
(viz.: the State of Wyoming, etc.).  It is not at all clear just what the
final climate patterns would be, nor just how long it would take for the
climate to "settle down", so to speak.

    In any case, the results would be nothing short of catastrophic for
current human "civilization". As a rough estimate, I counted the world's
airports above and below 600 ft, on the assumption that airports are
built where the population needs them... Guess what? 3 out of 4 would be
drowned.  Almost all of Europe would have very wet feet. China ditto.
India up to the foothills of the Himalayas.  Bangladesh would be a
shallow spot. Indo-china (Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.) would be a chain of
islands.  Africa? kiss it good-bye.  Ditto the eastern portion of South
America, up to the foot-hills of the Andes.  The islands of the Pacific,
including most of Australia, would also just not be there (where "there"
is defined as have enough dry land to set foot on -  not both feet,
necessarily, mind you).

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:40:43 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: The beginning of a formula well suited to answer JTrig

James,

This pr*ck really asked for it.  Here's the response he begged for.
Please post it asap.  And, forward my response to him.  Of course,
correct the return address for me if you would to
Frederick@antichrist.net.

Here goes:

>>Subject: Listen up

First of all, if you want intelligent discourse, do not address me
with some plebian attention getter that employs implied common
pronouns.  The reason the aristocracy has employed what plebians
have called snobbish grammatical distinctions, is purely to address
someone whose stature is unknown with respect.  Leave it to those
lacking the mental ability to comprehend anything beyond second grade
grammar to curse that which they lack the mental prowess to understand.


>>You really have no right calling Christians idiots first off, you said
>>you don't hate, then why are you cutting down the people that don't
want
>>to be burning in an eternal flame forever.

I think my opening paragraph clearly explains why you might be construed
as an idiot.  You want down to earth, try shutting your pie chewer and
picking up an instruction set on how to write business type letters.  In
all actuality if you had read anything substantial on this site, you
might understand that both James and I have friends that are deists.
They however are comprised of a group of people who are willing to
examine the possibility that it is all in their head, unlike the group
of people I'm sure you refer to when you say "Christians."


>>When I came across your website me and my brother were simply looking
>>for random websites and decided to type in your address as a joke.

What a coincidence, I ran into the site when it was still a "performance
art" project back in '96 with the same motivation from the lab I was
working in on break.

>>If you want to go to hell so bad why don't you kill yourself and take
>>both me and you out of your so called "miserable life." Go ahead post
>>this up on your idiots Christians page, oh yeah I forgot you wouldn't
>>and won't because you know that I'm smarter than your God-free mind
and
>>that this would put the faith of God into all of your physcos that
come
>>to your website. I can't believe that you are hating on the creator
that
>>made you, its simply unbelievable. I'm just going to point and laugh
at
>>you when you're enjoying your eternal damnation in Hell. And notice,
>>yes I'm a nice person, I didn't cuss you, I tried to help you out and
>>try to make you stop making yourself look like a complete blind fool.
>>It seems like your whole point of life is to be depressed, like with
>>the music on your homepage, its trying to sound all sad and stuff. I
bet
>>if I really got to know you I would disapprove of you even more and
>>realize that you really don't have that much to complain about.
You're
>>the kind of kids that go to my school that are gothic and stuff and
act
>>all depressed when they really live in like a $10,000,000 mansion. I
>>know you're not too bad off, or otherwise you wouldn't have a website
>>with no pop-up ads or banner ads on it. You must have a lot of money
to
>>invest in turning yourself into a freak.

First, there is NO HELL.  Second, Marshall Mathers does not represent
my mindset, so I won't be killing myself anytime soon.  I much prefer
the slogan 'For a price I'd do about anything, except pull the trigger
for that I'd need a pretty good cause!" Third, I love how you put
"miserable life" in quotes like you got that somewhere from
us, just like you incompetent A$$holes quote English just like it's
straight from the New Testament.  As for "idiots Christians" page, I
do not recall a link entitled that on our page either.  Fourth, the
word is "psychos" you dyslexic, illiterate F*ck.  Fifth, when you
employ the verb hate, it does not require that you employ on when
the object of the hatred is clearly stated in the sentence.  You may
wish ill UPON, or harbor hatred FOR something.  You do NOT hate ON the
OBJECT of that VERB, you ignorant pile of offal.  Sixth, I DO NOT hate
that which does NOT exist.  I hate the contorted, exclusive version of
LOVE that your lackluster religion offers people.  It breeds nothing
but the basest of Orwellian double-think.  Seventh, it is amazing
that such a throwback as yourself can place so much bellicosity below
the surface of your loaded,double-think statements (i.e. nice person...
point and laugh...eternal damnation...I didn't cuss (sic) you.)  You
stupid f*ck, look up the word CURSE and you will probably find
something meaning DAMN in the definition.  I can not wait until we
breed the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome damaged genetic material in your
family tree right out of existence.  That alone is an altruistic
reason for my continued existence.  The difference between
cave people like you and us is that WE offer real solutions, medical
cures to ailments, and first amendments, while you open some two
thousand year old book concerning an outdated urban legend and expect
to find those same things within its pages.  Eighth, try attending
your local high school with your gothic counterparts, and maybe my
judgement of your crippled mentality wouldn't be so scathing.  Ninth,
I can't speak for all the apostles, but I'm sure if any of them live
in a $10, 000, 000 mansion (or corporate office) they didn't get
there by being depressed and suicidal.  Finally, considering the
anomoly of the superior intellect expressed here by the apostles at
Antichrist.net, you might be right to call us freaks, but we were
born with that gift.  Sorry, you'll never have that "blessing" you
embittered fool.  And, yes, Antichrist.net is strictly a
philanthropic venture.  Thus, the lack of pop-ups.

I'm not done with you.  I will have this posted.  Rest assured, I
will gladly exchange mental strikes with you for a while.  Really,
though, this is really like placing Mickey Ward in the ring with
Mike Tyson.  Your a$$ is outclassed, biotch.

Sincerely in Christ's love,

Frederick aka Frederick


Editor's note: Frederick is feeling left out, he's the 4th apostle, and
               receives the least amount of hate mail. If you liked /
               disliked his treatise above, please send him a note.
               frederick@antichrist.net


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:44:01 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Update to Frederick Page!!!!!! Please put this on the site!!!

I shall make hand coding HTML a priority.  I'm down in [removed] right now
so I can't answer all your emails.  I got a quick moment to check them
though, and felt my mind going on a ranting response to the
new "Jeff."  I didn't want to waste the inspirational burst of energy,
so I typed it out in free moments and emailed it to you before this
response.  Please post it.  I will finish with that person when I get
back home.

4th

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:44:24 -0500
From: Tequila Mockingbird
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Hello James

Hello James

How are we today? Good, I hope.

I must say... I find it hillarious (and yet somewhat predictable) that
our favourite Christian, Jeff, has started sending you emails to agree
with himself. Oh, that's freaking rich. I had a sneaking suspicion that
he would start sending you further emails once his email was blocked.
Even without seeing any ISP's, it seems pretty obvious that Jeff has
taken on the roles of Kevin and Ryan to agree with himself. He's dropped
his bible quotation at the end, and has been a little nicer to you, but
just the gargled version of english he uses in his emails gives him away.
Oh, it's so very, very funny.

Unfortunately, I have nothing of relevance to say... Just, keep posting
whatever El Jeffe's (or whatever new alias he goes by) emails, their good
for a laugh!

Mike

________________________________________________________________________________

The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*


Editor's note: I've started posting Jeff again, just for OUR amusement.
               However, if he becomes problematic, he will be cut off.


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:20:33 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: frederick@antichrist.net
Subject:

you are a f*cking pathetic faggot

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:24:03 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: frederick@antichrist.net
Subject: Microwave oven and other tidbits

Greetings Frederick

I saw in the motherload section that you are going to bring home a broken
mirowave to take apart and experiment with. You should be extemely
cautious around the high voltage transformer and also the capacitor. The
transformer can source more than 2000 volts @ 2 Amps. That is more than
enougth to kill you first time every time. the capacitor in a microwave
oven says charged for about two minutes because of the internal bleeder
resistor but before then should be treated like a loaded gun. I get my
supply of microwave ovens from my local landfill. I stripped 21 of them at
last count but you cannot have enougth of a good thing if you have the
storage to put it all.Lasers are fun and a education to build however it
does become a obsession to achieve first light that seem to put everything
else in your life on a back burner. My CO2 only worked for two days before
it imploded but the proof that I suceeded was enougth of a reward for me
and I got some nice visible lasers to play with in the mean time as well.

The fact that Black "imigrants" came to our country while still under
apartheid was because we gave them everything they needed including
schools, hospitals, and even houses that their goverments failed to
provide them, untill their population exploded at least. We actually
treated them pretty well. But when they came into power with grand
promises the situation grew worse as few of these promises were actually
met by the black goverment.In fact there are a few who say that the white
goverment treated them better than the new black goverment.

Be safe in your exploits and best wishes for the future

Gabriel


Editor's note: Even after the bleeder resistor has drained down the
               capacitor(s) it is always wise to shunt the leads with a
               screwdriver or the points of a needle nose plyers.  Bang!
               If you don't wait long enough, the bang is LOUD and ablates
               the tips off your needle nose.  :o)  Play carefully.  :o)


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:24:25 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject:

I read your site it totally sucks sh*t and is full of
crap.Are you going to be a pussy and not respond to me like your faggot
friend James or
are you going to be a real man and do your own talking. James seems to
think I have imaginary friends yet most of the post are responded by him
kind of tells me he has made
up friends. Well anyway God is real and He still loves you and wants to
save you. You don't need that fruitcake James to control you anymore. He
knows I am right more intelligent than he ever will be and that is why
he will not post me anymore. Grow up before you burn in
Hell.
BTW do you four hold each other's penis when you go to the bathroom.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: "He knows I am right more intelligent"  :o)


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:48:03 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: MASER from a mircrowave oven

Greeting James
I was just curious abou how you would construct a maser. I was the LASER's
predecessor so it cannot be that hard could it? Where can I find the basic
blueprints for this device? I have searched myself but could not find
anything on how to build one.The effect of the voices in the cristians
brain sounds cool and worth a try, is this effect the same as the one that
creates the hissing sound a bolide makes in the upper atmosphere but
observers and other people on the ground can hear while the fireball
streaks 20 miles above their heads instantly? I have experieced this
phenomenon when I witnessed a huge fireball in daylight just as the sun
was setting.  I think it was sometime in 1998. It is the most awesome
thing imaginable to witness and the meteorites I have arrived exactly the
same manner which makes them special and revered objects in my eyes.

On the subject of meteorites I want to ask you which types did you
collect? Were they chondrites or achondrites and how many do you still
have in your posession? About 90% of all meteorites form strewn fields and
it will pay to search for more irons in the area where you found this one.
I would like a picture of it and also the green mouse. When iron is cut it
must be etched with a nitric acid solution of 5% acid 95% ahidrious
alchohol to show the teanite and kamachite crystal bands. I have a picture
of my achondrite ready to send as well if you want to see it.

The White Man's Bible was quite interesting to read and made sense exept
the detail to ship the nigger beasts back here. There is quite enougth
here already thanks . instead they should all be given the choice to leave
or if they want to stay must be gelded so that they cannot breed and die
out within this generation. I not yet ready to commit to another religion
just yet, however I already follow most of these principles so if I want
to join there should not be any problems. As for the CuCl laser a
electronic pulse network would require two thyratrons $$$ and a mechanical
pulser is quite noisy and dangerous to operate if it is not shielded in
some way so your fingers and other body parts get caught.Otherwise it is
simple device to construct.

I apologise for any spelling and grammar mistakes I've made in this and
previous emails but english is afterall my second language after afrikaans
my home language. also to correct another mistake: "My mother had two
accidents and in both cases" not three.I was distracted by one of my
co-workers reading some numbers out loud.I was to hurried and didn't proof
read it.

Goodbye and have a prosperous day

Gabriel


Editor's note: For those who were mis-educated in the USA public school
               system, the `Afrikaans' language is not a negroid language,
               but rather a White Germanic language, originated in South
               Africa about 200 years ago, as a composite language made up
               of English, German, Dutch, and Scandinavian languages.


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:00:07 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Antichrist

Hi James,

You must be a very busy guy. Hope that things are going well with you. I
guess that I wouldn't believe it either if God e-mailed me. It's absurd.
Thinking about you. You're my creation. How am I supposed to disassociate
from you? Again, you don't believe in God. That's me. I can't change that.
If I could force you to love me I would. I'd force my will on you. I'd
force all to serve me, but that's impossible as you and I know. You won't
be in my prayers because I rarely pray, however, you will be in my
thoughts.

The Antichrist

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:43:54 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Wow ! what a concept I actually have friends
> that come over and borrow my [removed] because they do not have a computer.

	Heh heh heh.  :o)  Let's all say it together now...  BUSTED!  :o)

> I don't expect you
> to know anything about having friends. I do not
> have to explain nothing to you anyway.

	Hey, believe in your pretend friends and in god all you want.  You
already have my pity, and I don't pity people very often!

> As my
> friends have stated everything I hae said is true.

	I don't believe you actually have any friends (see below).

> You need to learn how
> to grasp what people say. Every christian that has written you
> has told you the same things I have.

	That's because you all believe in the same religion!  Duh!  :o/
However there have been a few from islam that are in YOUR face as well.

> I am not talking about the science
> crap. They have all
> made mention of the biblical truths that I have
> spoken of.

	It seems they have read the same book you have.  This does not mean
that the quotes and ideas from this same book are true.

> Therefore they have agreed that you are ignorant and on your
> way to Hell.

	You know in your heart what you are, I don't have to tell you.  You are
lonely, crippled, alone, and you really do have my pity.  I do NOT pity often!

> I remember reading a post from this Legion person and he is
> perfectly correct. You are the one whos pathetic.

	Note how you have the same writing style as your buddy "Kevin".
"I read your Motherload 4 and noticed a lot of post from that Jeff person."  I
invite everyone to scroll up and see for yourself, it really is quite obvious.

> I do not need or want
> your
> pity.

	Sorry, you got it anyway.  I rarely give pity, but you have mine.  My
501c charity provides for disabled people, so I see a lot of people who one
_could_ pity, however most of them have inner strength, so I don't pity them.

> I hae the Grace of Jesus in my life.
> Once again I prove you a liar. You said Timothy
> disconnected his e-mail yet I still see people writing him. You are a
> Liar.

	Anyone who writes to timothy will receive their email back as
undeliverable.  Since I manage the MX for antichrist dot net, I have simply
added his email to mine, anyone writing to him, will automatically cc to me.  I
did this so I could at least post peoples responses in the Motherload, rather
than simply having their mail returned and unread.  I'm sorry you are unable to
realize such things are possible, or were in fact taking place.

> Burn in Hell you
> sadistic bastard.

	You go first.  :o)

> Your mother is a bitch.

	I will tell her you said that.  You _will_ rue the day, as my mother is
a genius level full blooded German!  I'd be nice to my mommie if I were you,
you do NOT want to be on _her_ enemies list!  I'm SERIOUS here!

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:01:20 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

how you doing James? mind if I prove you wrong once more. you said you
don't make
fun of the disabled. you tell your buddies that
i spunge off the taxpayers. for your information
SSI is disability monies. I woked all my life for
that. Unlike you I have have had prestigious
jobs that people use everyday. unlike youe stupid f*cking science that
kills people.
Once again I proved my inteligence over yours.
You go run and cry now lke the f*cking lousypiece of sh*t you are. thre
is not a damn thing you can do about it. f*ck you retard.
go suck your buddis cock. .

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:20:17 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

you aint busted sh*t it is not my fault you have not got friends.
go ahead believe in your suid sucking sh*t sience it will send you
straight to hell.
everyone types the same on the keyboard. yu can not tell anything from a
typed letter so keep lying to yourself.
i sure do know in my heart what I am a born again child of the king. I
am not going to hell.
the other christian post in your site do read from the same book so it
proves that we all cant be wrong like you said.
i am a strong person. My strength comes from the Lord. I pity you and
others like you that will burn for all eternity.
sure you added his post to your mail just like my friends used my webtv
whats your point.
i aint scared of your mama your daddy your sister your brother or anyone
else bring it on f*cker.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: I would beg to differ, Jeff has a unique hillbilly style,
               few (if any) on here would be able to match.


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:01:01 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

this is a civil question. you send me a e-mail
with an attachment. that attachment is a voice
that i suppose to be yours and it is telling me of a development to help
blind people use the internet. you invite me to take advantage of your
developments and when i inquire about
them you doubt my sincerety. you even go as far as o request that i
denounce my God before i could benefit from them. Is that how you help
the disabled. do you have to be a atheist to use your knowledge. if you
do then you must not see very many benefiting frm your research.
That is a sad testimony for you.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: In the private (unpublished) message I told Jeff that my
               501c non-profit charity is developing text to speech
               engines, kernels, and screen readers that work with Linux
               so that eventually the blind will have truly FREE (no cost)
               access to the Internet. I sent him a sample audio file of
               the current revision text to speech engine reading text off
               the computer screen. In a surprising response (above) he
               mistakes the TTS output for true human speech! I am a
               perfectionist, but didn't realize it was that good! You
               judge for yourself, click here. This project is a spin-off
               from my robotics research, developing voices for my robots.


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:10:14 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Gabriel
Subject: Re: MASER from a mircrowave oven

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, you wrote:
>
> Greeting James

	Hello again Gabriel!  :o)

> I was just curious abou how you would construct a maser. I was the
> LASER's predecessor so it cannot be that hard could it? Where can I
> find the basic blueprints for this device?

	Masers are über simple to build and understand.  Spontaneous emission
is proportional to the transition frequency^3, it is extremely small in the
microwave part of the spectrum and can be negligent compared to the important
processes such as stimulated emission.  :o)  Population inversions are _easy_ to
achieve even with _very_ low pumping energies.  In the maser, population
inversion is achieved using ammonia.  The two lowest levels of ammonia are the
result of inversion splitting of the vibrational levels caused by a potential
curve with a double minima.  Population inversion in ammonia is established by
physical separation of molecules in the upper quantum state from those in the
lower quantum state.  Molecules in the lower quantum state experience an outward
force and rapidly leave the beam, those in the upper quantum state see a radial
inward (focusing) force and eventually enter the cavity.  When microwave power
of the appropriate resonant frequency is passed through the cavity,
amplification occurs due to the population inversion.

> I have searched myself but
> could not find anything on how to build one.

	Masers went out of style in the 60's replaced by the so-called `optical
maser' or LASER.  I couldn't find anything of value on the web either.

> The effect of the voices
> in the cristians brain sounds cool and worth a try, is this effect the
> same as the one that creates the hissing sound a bolide makes in the
> upper atmosphere but observers and other people on the ground can hear
> while the fireball streaks 20 miles above their heads instantly?

	Honestly, I don't know what causes that hissing effect, I've never
heard of it before, nor studied it.  The way the "voices in your head" trick
works is by amplitude modulating the maser beam, you induce vibration directly
into the skull of the target, thus he perceives the voices are coming from
inside his skull, when it is actually his skull itself behaving like a speaker
cone, and reproducing the sound.  Pressing your ear against the skull of the
victim will result in hearing the same audio as his skull vibrates your voice.

> I have experieced this phenomenon when I witnessed a huge fireball in
> daylight just as the sun was setting .  I think it was sometime in
> 1998. It is the most awesome thing imaginable to witness and the
> meteorites I have arrived exactly the same manner which makes them
> special and revered objects in my eyes.

	Wow, lucky you!  :o)  With so much reverence for Science, I'm surprised
you didn't abandon religion sooner!

> On the subject of meteorites I want to ask you which types did you
> collect? Were they chondrites or achondrites and how many do you still
> have in your posession?

	I made the mistake of giving away my most recent stoney meteorite which
I found when I was in my parents huge cattle pasture.  I still have the iron.
I've only the one here.  The others I've collected are at my parents house.  My
friend Dan <removed@removed.dom> has the stoney now.  :o)  Most of what I find
are chondrites (that's why I gave it away, I'd only find another eventually).

> About 90% of all meteorites form strewn fields
> and it will pay to search for more irons in the area where you found
> this one.

	I found the iron here, the stoney's I find all the time in the pasture
on my parents farm.  Cows seem to make them easier to find as they chew down
the grass around them, exposing them to the eyes.  :o)

> I would like a picture of it and also the green mouse.

	Green rat.  I'll have to send both with my company email, since they
are on that server, which is separate from the antichrist mail server.  There
is no way this machine can reach that machine through the firewall for safety.

> When
> iron is cut it must be etched with a nitric acid solution of 5% acid
> 95% ahidrious alchohol to show the teanite and kamachite crystal
> bands. I have a picture of my achondrite ready to send as well if you
> want to see it.

	Cut, then etch, yes I know the drill.  :o)  However I have to use an
acid other than nitric as that acid is illegal here now.  Perhaps hydrochloric?

> The White Man's Bible was quite interesting to read and made sense
> exept the detail to ship the nigger beasts back here.

	Hey, that's where they came from.  ;o)  I'd rather they were put back
where they came from, rather than allowed to run loose in packs here!

> There is quite
> enougth here already thanks.

	No, really, you can have ours.  :o)  We don't want them anymore.

> instead they should all be given the
> choice to leave or if they want to stay must be gelded so that they
> cannot breed and die out within this generation.

	I seriously doubt that is going to happen.

> I not yet ready to
> commit to another religion just yet, however I already follow most of
> these principles so if I want to join there should not be any
> problems.

	Yeah, my first religion is Science, but that one would be a close
second, given the times we live in.

> As for the CuCl laser a electronic pulse network would require two
> thyratrons $$$ and a mechanical pulser is quite noisy and dangerous to
> operate if it is not shielded in some way so your fingers and other
> body parts get caught.Otherwise it is simple device to construct.

	Gas thyratrons would work, but we have high voltage thyristors today,
solid state replacements for the thyratron.

> I apologise for any spelling and grammar mistakes I've made in this
> and previous emails but english is afterall my second language after
> afrikaans my home language. also to correct another mistake: "My
> mother had two accidents and in both cases" not three.I was distracted
> by one of my co-workers reading some numbers out loud.I was to hurried
> and didn't proof read it.

	Like I say to the christians, I don't worry about it, nor do I point
out spelling or grammatical errors (unless to make a point).  :o)

> Goodbye and have a prosperous day

	You too Gabriel!  :o)

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:10:44 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Vampire Cowboy
Subject: Re: Re: Antichrist

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> You must be a very busy guy.

	Yes, I am.  :o)

> Hope that things are going well with you. I guess that I wouldn't believe it
> either if God e-mailed me.

	But wait, you're not `The Antichrist', David Royal Dalton is.  :o)

> It's absurd. Thinking about you. You're my creation. How am I supposed to
> disassociate from you?

	Easy, just think happy thoughts, and take your antipsychotics.  :o)

> Again, you don't believe in God. That's me.

	Me too!  We are _all_ gods, well, all but Jeff and his ilk.  ;o)

> I can't change that. If I could force you to love me I would. I'd force my
> will on you. I'd force all to serve me, but that's impossible as you and I
> know. You won't be in my prayers because I rarely pray, however, you will be
> in my thoughts.

	Why thank you Vampire Cowboy.  :o)  By the way, I made some comments to
your last few emails in MOTHERLOAD 4 if you'd like to read them.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:24:39 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> how you doing James? mind if I prove you wrong once more.

	That has never happened in the past, I don't know why you think it will
in the future, and I am _totally_ finished making you look foolish!  I don't
have time to waste on you anymore, you've proven to be POINTLESS!

> you said you
> don't make
> fun of the disabled.

	I do not make fun of their disabilities, and one of my companies exists
to HELP the disabled by designing adaptive technologies.  What do YOU do?

	Oh, and in case you forgot the private (not published in the MOTHERLOAD
email that I sent you), I work pro-bono (WITHOUT compensation) to aid the
handicapped, contributing both time AND money to the effort.  What do YOU do?

> you tell your buddies that
> i spunge off the taxpayers. for your information
> SSI is disability monies. I woked all my life for
> that.

	You are a parasite, you live off the efforts of others.  It is, what it
is, I can't change that.  My friend Gloral, a schizophrenic who is on SSD made
the same argument to me, in fact she was furious that I suggested she was a
parasite living off the efforts of others, however in _all_ the time she worked,
she only paid in 1/100th of the disability money she's already consumed.  In
fact, she consumed all of her paid in portion within the first YEAR of
receiving SSD and SSI payments.  I invite you to do the math, you paid in
roughly 7% of the money you earned during your working career.

> Unlike you I have have had prestigious
> jobs that people use everyday.

	What is that supposed to mean?  That sentence has no meaning.

> unlike youe stupid f*cking science that
> kills people.

	Science saves more people than it kills, and YOU KNOW IT!  Science gave
you your prosthesis, and medicine is why you are alive RIGHT NOW.  You call me
a liar, well YOU are a liar to yourself about who and why you are `saved'.

> Once again I proved my inteligence over yours.
> You go run and cry now lke the f*cking lousypiece of sh*t you are. thre
> is not a damn thing you can do about it. f*ck you retard.
> go suck your buddis cock. .

	And with that paragraph, you have refuted your first statement, and
shown the whole world what kind of a person you are.  I'm done talking to you.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:48:13 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

you mentioned i would be on your mother's
enemy list let me cmment on that. The Bible
teaches that through the preaching of the Word
even our enemies will be made at peace with us. that means that even the
most hard hearted person will come to terms with the truth.
whats wrong cnt handle the truth.
my enemies will be a peace. your on a sh*t ist
you wil remain a piece of sh*t

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:56:02 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

your mamais a parasite and has a dildo stuck up her ass

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Whether or not Jeff cares to admit it, I have been a
               powerful influence upon him. I've noted previously where
               I've added to his vocabulary (example: refute) and it looks
               like I've done it again.  :o)  I call Jeff a `parasite',
               because he is a WELFARE RECIPIENT who receives free money,
               and gets a free ride off the backs of YOU the taxpayers,
               and now he uses that word in one of his emails. Cute. :o)


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:35:46 -0500
From: Meghan
To: James@antichrist.net
Subject: saddam, antichrist?

This email is for the sole purpose of finding your belifs, recently i
have been researching the possibilites of saddam being the previous
anti-christ. Refered to as "Apollyan:the destroyer." Do you believe this
to be true?

thank you for your time

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:05:49 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Meghan
Subject: Re: saddam, antichrist?

Meghan wrote:
>
> This email is for the sole purpose of finding your belifs, recently i have
> been researching the possibilites of saddam being the previous anti-christ.
> Refered to as "Apollyan:the destroyer." Do you believe this to be true?
>
> thank you for your time

	If christ is a lie, then of course, the antichrist is also a lie.  :o)
I believe Saddam Hussein became president of Iraq on July 16th, 1979 upon the
resignation of Al Bakr.  I believe he remains president to this day.  I believe
the USA military will remove him from power by force, and install a puppet of
the USA.  I wish the USA government had more balls and was willing to OPENLY
talk about their want of oil and desire to colonize via force, but oh well.

James

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:38:00 -0500
From: Meghan
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: saddam, antichrist?

But what if Christ isn't a lie? doesn't it all make more sense that way?
saddam vs christ:

present vs past?

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:50:44 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

If David Royal Dalton is the Antichrist then I am Olivia Newton John, but
you can just call me Olivia. You're right. I have not read your comments.
I'll have to check that out.

The Antichirst

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:35:39 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Science.

you are 100%right. science is a sin glad you realize that. as far as the
woman goes she
was created as a elp meet for man. i can
truthfully say i am glad no woman would want
your sorry ass.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:38:38 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Science.

send me a copy of the book i will burn it with the rest of my garbage
because that is what it is garbage. it aint worthy of me wiping my ass
with its pages


2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Jeff refers to "The Antichrist - by Friedrich Nietzsche"
               which is available in etext format on antichrist dot net.
               You may find it on the main index page at the bottom.


Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:52:55 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

I sarw ,,,,>> everything....

Oh sh#t f%@king ass hell fire!!!!!!! God da*n it! Son of a b*tch, mother
f*cker. (not you James) Puss& sucking f&$king sh*t. Nothing is wrong. F!@k
D*vid, The Antichirst f?"+ing sh*t mother f%ck!!!!!!!!! Oh, Jesus BLOODY
Chist, deliver me from your people f*ck@ng sh&t! F*CKING ASS S#N OF A
B&TCH, MOTHER F&*K!PIG SH*T FALLING OUT OF A HORSE'S ASS MOTHER F8%K!
EVERYTHING'S FINE. THERE'S NO PROBLEM. Poor D*&id, it must be hard being
the Antichrist. SON OF A F*CKING WHORE! PIG FU%KING ASS GOD DAMn SH&T. no
problem. SATAN F*CKING ASS FUC*ING ASS MOTHER F*CKER!!! And I wii punish
the world for their evil,and the wicked for their iniquity. Behold, the
day of the Lord cometh.

The Beast

Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:01:21 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

James,

I hope that we can keep talking for a long, long time.

Love,

The Beast

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:38:59 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Meteorite stuff

Greetings James
I searched my mail archives and came across this little tidbid of
information on how to etch meteorites safely without nitric acid which I
realised is illegal as a prime ingriedient for making nitro glycerin along
with sulpheric acid.

begin qoute:

* Radio Shack PCB Etchant (Ferric Chloride) etches very quickly, and
degrades foam brushes quickly, too.  Diluting helps slow the etch,
giving you more control, but dilute with 91% (or higher) isopropyl
alcohol, NOT water.
* For Gibeon's fine octahedrite structure, 600 grit sanding is most
probably sufficient.  Don't be afraid to go higher, either.  Anything
less that 600, and you'll lose quality on the etch.
* My muddy patches around trollite were due to the water I was adding to
the FeCl3.

End qoute

Another thing is about bolides what I discovered with a little research.
As they enter the atmosphere they send out a lot of RF radiation in all
directions. When this RF radiation strike sharp abjects it gets converted
into sound waves. I was standing on a lawn at that time and with all the
sharp points that the grass created it caused a hissing sound almost like
radio static.This was a HUGE bolide and it even left after images for a
while.If this came at night it would have been even more spectacular to
witness.

Sorry about the mouse/rat mixup but you should see the rats that our cat
sometimes bring into our house ALIVE .These things are huge and dangerous
but at least our white bull terrier makes short work of them.The negroe
population actually eats these things because they cannot afford food, but
what do they expect with all the farmers they killed driving up food
prices. Another plus point on having a white bull terrier is that most of
the negroe population believe that if you are mauled by one of these you
become infertile (if only that was true) and hence they steer mostly clear
of houses that have them in the yard.

Goodbye and have a prosperous day

Gabriel

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:16:57 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Jeff, Kevin and Ryan

Greetings James

I cannot believe the nerve of that guy. He should know what I did to that
one guy who did that to me while I was still in school. I can take
personal insults, but when somebody opens his mouth against my mother he
has overstepped sacred bounds which turns me into a merciless machine out
for revenge.I may be overprotective but with good reason. She cannot fight
her own battles as she has become a invalid and it falls on me to defend
her honor. She is very strong inside and I admire her for that and if
anyone thinks that they can get away with insulting her they are in for
rude awakening. I also have German blood in my family.

Perhaps Jeff is not all with us, he may have the same problem that the guy
in the movie "'Fight club"  has with his alter ego and he doesn't even
realise it. Instead he "sees" them as his friends and for that he has my
pity.

Message to Jeff starts here

You are a real worm Jeff for always trying to make people feel sorry for
your ass but you don't get compassion from me and if you even think about
saying anything about my mother who is a much stronger person than you
will ever be as she looks life in the eye and she doesn't complain about
her affliction like you're sorry ass you _will_ have me as a eternal
ruthless enemy.

Science may kill people like you say Jeff BUT only about 0.001% as much as
was killed by religeous fanatics through the ages and that includes
Hiroshima and nagasaki. The Challenger and Columbia tragedies was awfull
but they knew the risks and I wouldn't mind to die to make the world a
better place through science.If it means that I must die to save other
people I would not hesitate because after life there is nothing like hell
or heaven to look forward to. There is no proof and without proof I won't
believe. If you even try to quote from the tabloid you must take me for a
fool.The experience of dying must be like the one you get when you are put
under for an operation of which I had six. You just fade out and know
nothing untill you wake up but in death you won't wake up and know nothing
but oblivion.I would not like to live forever as it would just ruin the
whole point of it. Knowing no pain? what fun is life without taking
risks.You will become bored after about a week and you will become insane
after a century of knowing nothing but bliss and experiencing no
exitement. Heaven will become hell after about 2 centuries as more and
more people become insane from boredom with no escape.

People off the future will evolve enough to realise that there is no god,
allah, satan and definataly no afterlife.If you still believe in this
religeous mumbo jumbo you must try the following experiment. Try to sell
your soul to satan and see if he appears. He doesn't ? well it is because
he is nothing but a boogieman that was created to scare adults into
submission.

Message to Jeff ends here......

I bet this Jeff has an IQ of less than 80 as he thinks that he can fool us
into believing the junk that he types.I dare Jeff to make his IQ public
like me so that we can compare and see who is the true idiot.

As for the guy who speaks about rising sea levels. We will have more
trouble with water expanding due to temperature increase than we will have
due to the ice caps melting.

Goodbye and have a nice day

Gabriel

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:55:21 +1030
From: Cathy
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: GOD IS A LIE

Hi,
    I do not believe in god and i am disgusted at the millions that do. Why
do 'followers' need a 'Superior Being' to define the rules of life and how
we must act. If 'followers' had any brains they wouldn't need someone to set
the rules, they would have the sense to set theyre own rules that keeps them
alive and happy.

There is no meaning to life, life is just something that happens for no
reason. God is a lie made up thousands of years ago to make people feel like
there is a reason why they are here and to explain everything that they
couldnt.

My ideal world would be DEATH TO EVERYONE. After death there is no hate,
fear, depression, just nothingness. Sure there will be no happiness, love or
contentness but arent they just what humans seek to fill in time before they
die? After death they dont matter anymore.

I do not beleive in a devil either. The devil is just  another lie made to
make people do what they are told by their religous rulers. After they are
brainwashed by the religion, they are too scared to back out, fearing an
eternity in hell.

My only 'god' is ME, Humanity is my 'devil'. Too full of hate and stupidity
to progress. Dragging everyone down into depression and hate pointlessly.

There is nothing magic about life. Its just a bunch of atoms composed
together to make a body that react to eachother to make movements/decisions.
You dont actually have your own mind either, because your brain/mind is made
up by hole a bunch of atoms that react to your environment. so ultimately
your environment decides everything for you. My conclusion here is that life
is pointless and meaningless.

I dont hate all religous people, but i do put them into two main groups 1)
idiots who cant find the answers to their questions, questions that probably
dont have answers anyway, and turn to a 'god' who will provide those
answers, but never actually gives any help. 2) People who were bred into it,
raised from birth to beleive in god and dont know any different. To them its
just the way things are.

I personally pity the type 2 believer and am sickened by the type 1
beleiver.

I hate most of humanity because they are idiots. Mabe its just me? mabe im
just a f*cked up, disturbed, hateful bastard and everyone else is right. But
so f*ckin what, im the only one that matters in my world so f*ck everyone
else.

What category of people would you put me in?
Thanks for your time, please reply to
[removed]@[removed].com.au

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 06:46:39 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Science.

What? are you calling your mother a mstake?
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. It seems
the only mistake she had was you. Your genius
figure it out.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Jeff has called me "stupid" and now "genius". I really wish
               he would make up his mind.  ;o)


Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:05:39 +0200
From: Gabriel
To: frederick@antichrist.net
Subject: Response to JTrig

Greetings Frederic

He asked for it and he got a response, very nicely done in putting his
sorry ass out to dry.We are the only ones evolved enougth to realise that
god(s) is a fallacy and that we are our own masters.He thinks that we are
children (like you said) but woe onto his black heart, so far the only
unjustified hate I have seen came from these cristian fools and their hate
mail.I would like to get some hate mail as well just to rub the senders
shortcomings back into their faces like you did.

I'll like to hear more from that "ignorant piece of offal" Jtrig.Keep up
the good work and have a pleasant day.

Gabriel

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:58:44 -0500
From: Tequila Mockingbird
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Just Stuff

Hello James!

Firstly, I love the exerpt you sent to me. I really must read that
book...

Now, onto our friend Jeff. Some of what he says can be very entertaining.
However, I understand quite well why you would stop replying, or go as
far as to block his email. In case he hasn't noticed, his multiple emails
are redundant, and all to frequent.

A question to him: Where have you proven ANYTHING you have stated? You
continuously claim that you have proven your intelligence (amidst
thrashings of the English language) and so forth, and you have yet to
prove it once. Perhaps prooving things may be all to scientific for
you... In religion, you don't have to prove a thing!

Blah
Mike

P.S. Beware the Ides of March... I have a feeling Jeff will send you
plenty of emails today!

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Editor's note: The excerpt mentioned above was from The Antichrist - by
               Friedrich Nietzsche, available as etext from this site.
               "Science makes men godlike, it is all up with priests and
               gods when man becomes scientific! Moral; science is
               forbidden per se; it alone is forbidden. Science is the
               first of sins, the original sin. This is all there is of
               morality. `Thou shalt not know', the rest follows from that.


Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:57:29 +0800
From: Calixtus
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: email from a NON-christian...

but from a 16-yr old CATHOLIC.

Hi, im from Singapore, and i just viewed your site. i have only read a few
pages so pardon me if i appear ignorant at any point.

this interesting thought occurred to me as i read on and on about ppl and
their strong feelings against Christianity; are you referring to the
Protestant or the Catholic denomination of Christianity? There is a GREAT
difference between the two religions. I personally HATE Protestants, and yes
i find them hypocritical. they are so different from us catholics, in what
we believe in, in what we do, etc...I will even go so far as to say they are
twisted, evil f*ckers.

now, i know you would feel against me using profanities since after all im a
catholic, but once you are enlightened of catholism you would understand
why.

To save you from reading a long essay of stuff you might already know, i
will only explain catholism and christianity to you if you request so. if
you think you already know what im about to say, give me a chance, for i
believe it would be totally something you wouldnt expect.

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:20:28 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Vampire Cowboy
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> If David Royal Dalton is the Antichrist then I am Olivia Newton John, but
> you can just call me Olivia.

Olivia,

	David is not `The Antichrist' any more than you or I are.  In fact,
he's some kind of deist, as he _does_ believe in god.  I presume you are as
well.  David is also schizophrenic (untreated).  Perhaps you are as well.

James - First Apostle to David, The Antichrist.  :o)

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:25:50 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Vampire Cowboy
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> James,
>
> I hope that we can keep talking for a long, long time.

	What's your phone number?

> Love,
>
> The Beast

	Finally, someone who realizes that Antichrist are MANY, and `The Beast'
(who is mistaken as "The Antichrist") is ONE.  It took you a while, but you're
now caught up and on the same page with the rest of us.  Now if I could only
get you to start taking your antipsychitic medications.  ;o)  Jeff too!  :o)

James - First Apostle to David Royal Dalton, The ChristChild.  :o)

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:41:19 +0800
From: Calixtus
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: one more thing...

i think it is foolish to judge a religion from the ppl who believe in it.
thats just stereotyping. stereotyping by thinking that the actions of the
christians you know identifies the entire religion.
if a person acts evilly, it doesnt mean his religion is evil. take the
Muslims for eg. you think their religion teaches them to kill and make war?
no, they have misinterpreted the text of their religion. they have failed to
see what God is trying to show them, and they have warped the meaning of the
text for their own manipulation.

another silly thing to say that because there is evil in this world, God
does not exist. you should say that because there is evil in this world, the
world is perfect.(this is my own opinion, not my religion's)
can you imagine a world without evil? no, because ppl have different views
on what evil is. if you believe that conflicts and competitions betweens ppl
is evil, since they instigate arguements and fights, and in other words
should not exist, science and technology would not advance much. Japan
invented such creative and wonderful products because it encouraged
competition between companies.

another reason why evil makes this world all the more perfect because evil
gives ppl a chance to do good. if no evils are committed who are we to give
our "i forgive you"s to? there will be no chance for ppl to show their
generosity. Good will not exist.

there are many more reasons and if you still cant understand, i will be glad
to tell you more.

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:32:55 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Gabriel
Subject: Re: Jeff, Kevin and Ryan

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Greetings James

	Hello again Gabriel.  :o)

>  I also have
> German  blood in my family.

	Of course you do, the smartest people who have ever lived, have ALL
been German.  The fathers of the Atomic Age were all German, and it was Germans
that put MAN ON THE MOON!  I'm exactly half German, and half Irish however.

> Perhaps Jeff is not all with us,

	You think?  ;o)

> he may have the same problem that the guy
> in the movie "'Fight club"  has with his alter ego and he doesn't even
> realise it. Instead
> he "sees" them as his friends and for that he has my pity.

	He believes in his invisible buddy jesus, that says it all.  The other
invisible friends are just other manifestations of the same disorder.

> Science may kill people like you say Jeff BUT only about 0.001% as much as
> was killed by religeous fanatics through the ages

	Jeff lost his leg because it saved his life.  Medical procedures are
the very reason he is alive today.  He attributes this to god.  Were his case
left in the hands of god, he'd be dead now, AND HE F*CKING KNOWS IT!

> The Challenger and Columbia tragedies was awfull but they knew the risks and
> I wouldn't mind to die to make the world a better place through science

	Which is worse, to die enriching the worlds base of knowledge in
Science, or to die on a bed somewhere, withering away, alone?  Even if I knew
it was a one-way-trip, I'd have joined them, just to for once, reach outside of
my cradle (the earth), release my mortal restraints, and BECOME AS GODS!

> People off the future will evolve enough to realise that there is no god,
> allah, satan and definataly no afterlife.

	People of today, DO.  Just that the numbers are small.  People who are
able to understand, become atheist; the confused follow one of the religions.

> I bet this Jeff has an IQ of less than 80 as he thinks that he can fool us
> into believing the junk that he types.I dare Jeff to make his IQ public like
> me so that we can compare and see who is the true idiot.

	The people who matter already have their answer.  Jeff is self-evident.
He is even an embarrassment to the christians who frequent here.  :o)

> As for the guy who speaks about rising sea levels. We will have more trouble
> with water expanding due to temperature increase than we will have due to
> the ice caps melting.

	People are all afraid of global warming, when they should REALLY be
afraid of the New World Order, which has the greatest threat against them.  The
global warming freaks perpetuate this myth to garner support, in the form of
MONEY!  Tree huggers send in their bucks, so they keep the doom scenario going.

	Prosperous day to you, Gabriel!  :o)

James

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:54:23 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Cathy
Subject: Re: GOD IS A LIE

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, you wrote:
> Hi,
>     I do not believe in god and i am disgusted at the millions that do.

	[...]

> What category of people would you put me in?

	The _BEST_ category.  :o)

James

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:57:33 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Tequila Mockingbird
Subject: Re: Just Stuff

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, you wrote:
>
> Firstly, I love the exerpt you sent to me. I really must read that book.

	It's free, and on the main page, at the very bottom.  Look for the link:
"The Antichrist - by Friedrich Nietzsche" and read it online!  :o)

> Now, onto our friend Jeff. Some of what he says can be very entertaining.
> However, I understand quite well why you would stop replying, or go as far as
> to block his email. In case he hasn't noticed, his multiple emails are
> redundant, and all to frequent.

	My arguments fly over his head, it gets to the point where I too become
redundant, and that's why I pulled the plug.  He is (as we see) hopeless.

> A question to him: Where have you proven ANYTHING you have stated?

	He hasn't.  No christian (or deist) ever has!  EVER!  _PERIOD!_

> You continuously claim that you have proven your intelligence (amidst
> thrashings of the English language) and so forth,

	Notice how I continuously mock him in my "Editor's note:" comments!
Jeff is the equate of the court jester, a fool, and HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT!

> Perhaps prooving things may be all to scientific for you... In religion, you
> don't have to prove a thing!

	What's funny is that I have given the christians their perfect argument
in Motherload 3.  "No I do not, and I can not produce proof, no such proof
exist.  I simply have blind faith god exists."  That's all they need ever say.

> Beware the Ides of March... I have a feeling Jeff will send you plenty of
> emails today!

	You give Jeff way too much credit.  :o)

James

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:45:19 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antichrist

If you want my #, get it off of my web site! The Antichrist and The
Anitchristians are two different entities. There's only one Antichrist,
but many Antichristians.

What ever page you're on is the one that I'm off, that's true. To me
you're insane. I'm starting not to trust you James. Maybe you think that
I'm playing games with you.

Anyway, why should I display concern? God doesn't need his freaking
angels, they just think that he does. Have a nice day, my little angel.

Love,

The Beast


Editor's note: This subject is either playing games, or is truly insane.
               Let's just hope he doesn't end up being the next "The
               Antichrist" intruder / stalker that they take away from my
               home or office in a body bag. [7.62x51mm NATO HK-91]


Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:39:29 -0500
From: Frederick
Subject: Re: A christian with words you might want to read.

> Hello, let me start out by saying yes; i am a christian (baptist,
> not that it
> really matters).

No, it doesn't matter.  I've had intelligent discourse with all sorts
of people.

> Why would i be viewing a website called
> "Antichrist"?. To
> speak my opinion. Anyway, before I emailed you I did some reading
> on your
> site to get an idea of what it is about. There are some things i
> agree with.

That alone makes your email unique.  Most people, including those that
are atheist, write me asking questions whose answer is already included
in the body of my posted treatise.

> What? A christian agreeing? It is true there are many weak-minded
> christians
> and hypocrites. I would like to see a better effort on the
> christian
> community as many of us are lazy. There are people out there that
> try a lot
> harder in life to make it better for themselves than christians
> do. Also i
> abhor two-faced christians; you know the ones who don't practice
> what they
> preach.

Certainly, I agree with you so far, sir.  It seems that most of the
emails from Christians that we receive here at AC.com are from the
types you abhor yourself.  My treatise taken as a whole is really more
a commentary on government than religion, which is probably why you
find yourself agreeing on some points.

> But we still can't ignore the fact that we were put here
> by God and
> not aliens. God wants us to strive for a better life and acheive
> great things
> all in his name. He can't help it if people by nature are
> corrupt.He gave us
> a great gift of free will which has been neglected for hundreds of
> years. I
> could go on and on but won't.

I will say this.  We both agree that widespread corruption seems to be
the norm.  I agree that by whatever method we arrived at our current
state, we do have some form of free will or self-determination, and am
therefore not a nihilist.  The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle seems
to permit free-will logically within the laws of physics.

> In conclusion i will leave with
> this. Believe
> what you will because God gave you that right.

I prefer to think that the Constitution of the United States gives me
that right.  Irrespective of where we believe the source is from, we
both regard it as a mutual right.

> Believe though not
> for
> rebellious reasons or shameful reasons but because it is in your
> heart.

I acknowledge that certain statistical probabilities are more likely.
Where my belief begins is where the demonstration of those realities
ends.  In terms of the body of that area, I prefer to let it remain
nebulous, adding reason to be to my life, mystery, but it is my BELIEF
that it is humanly possible to one day theoretically comprehend that
which remains unknown to this point.

> I
> believe if you search your heart you will find a tendency to
> believe in God.

What I find in my heart is a tendency to find comforting thoughts and
secure conclusions appealing, however irrational they may be.  If you
are interested, I can explain why I find comfort in the fact that we do
not know everything.  This seems to be the thing that generates
discomfort for those that believe, or, rather, the fact that the
unknown has been arbitrarily filled for them since birth by looming
threats of eternal damnation.  I eventually dismissed these outlandish
claims in my youth and found the unknown to be much less menacing when
it is left just as unknown.

> And for those people who  feel they got dealt a bad hand in life;
> i could
> show you a True christian who got dealt a worse one. Thanks and
> remeber life
> is short.

We could all compare misfortunes.  Regret is the ultimate waste of
time.  Studying history and the antecedents of negative events allows
us to prevent their recurrence.  That is what retrospection is meant to
be used for productively.  Yes, life is short, death is forever.


Thank you for your insights,

Frederick

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:43:35 EST
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: hello

you made perfect sense, I am a wiccan, and very proud to say it.
Religion has always been a downfall of humanity. If god really exsited
I personally think religion would be in for a rude awaking.
                                                          Thank you for
your time,

Shadowbox

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:50:32 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: True Prophecy

Was on my way to church to worship God just
thought I would share something with you. You said prophecies have never
come true or been proven listen to this. The Bible mentions the
fact of someday there being a one world government or NWO New World
Order. Our
President has already talked about our country
heading in that direction. scary ain't it.
The Bible speaks of one day the only way we
will be able to buy anything will be with a mark
on our body somewhere. You know the mark of
the beast. There are places they are already testing this out. even
scarier ain't it .. That prophecy of Jesus it came true also BTW.
Goodbye.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:33:03 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

jeff wrote:
>
> Was on my way to church to worship God

	Try masturbation, it's slightly more productive.  :o)

> just
> thought I would share something with you. You said prophecies have never
> come true or been proven listen to this. The Bible mentions the
> fact of someday there being a one world government or NWO New World
> Order.

	Gee, that's a news flash.  Let's see now, since the dawn of
civilization, rather since the very first tyrant, it is UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD
that the goal of the tyrant IS TO RULE THE WORLD!  How many comic books have
you read as a child where the goal of the bad guy was to rule the world?
EVERYONE who seeks power, ultimately wants to rule the world.  Duh!  :o/

> Our
> President has already talked about our country
> heading in that direction. scary ain't it.

	Not really.  The first president wanting to rule the world was Abe
Lincoln.  In order to move in that direction, he opted to wipe his ass with our
beloved document, the Constitution of the United States.  His gift to the USA
was to declare farm animals as people, and turn them loose upon us, but the
worst sin of all, he took away States Rights (FEDERALISM)!  There have been
many presidents after him wanting the same thing, most notably the Bush Dynasty.

> The Bible speaks of one day the only way we
> will be able to buy anything will be with a mark
> on our body somewhere. You know the mark of
> the beast.

	May I see your ID?  It's required now, and has been asked for since as
far back as I can remember.  What the bible spoke of was the rules imposed by
the then living god, the Pontifex Maximus, Julius Cæsar, the tyrant who ordered
the creation of your religion, and of course, the inclusion of that prophecy so
that you WOULD take the mark, which although was designed to be implemented in
HIS times, is convenient in ANY era for the tyrannical leader of the time.

> There are places they are already testing this out. even
> scarier ain't it ..

	What scares me is that people are not only accepting it, but actually
WANTING it.  Kids actually ANTICIPATING "getting chipped" with the biochip ID
system.  Of course, such technology _should_ be voluntary, but I have a feeling
it will eventually be as `voluntary' as the drivers license is now!  Just _try_
and live in this society without a drivers license (or the ID version thereof).

> That prophecy of Jesus it came true also BTW.
> Goodbye.

	What you need to do is study history.  ALL of the prophecy you speak of
was implemented once before, by Hitler, right down to the tattooing of the
forearms with a mark (a number) of the beast (national socialism).  By you
accepting your welfare payments (socialism) you have unwittingly become a part
of the national socialist plan.  Moreover, you are on a list.  The government
HAS that list.  It is a list of persons whom they give [my tax] money to each
month, and in return for this money,receive nothing.  When Hitler took power in
Germany, the first thing he did was take the welfare (SSI) lists, go around and
collect all those people, and put them to death.  The crippled and the infirmed
were the VERY FIRST TO DIE!  Later, he implemented ethnic cleansing, which is
of course the more widely documented (and exaggerated) atrocity.  Remember
Jeff, you are on that list, and if your leaders turn totalitarian, and we have
every historical indication that the long range plan is just that, and if we
lose our Constitution, and with it turn to nationalism and socialism, YOU WILL
BE THE FIRST TO BE EXTERMINATED BY THE NEW WORLD ORDER!

	Now _that_ is scary, "ain't it?"  ;o)

James

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:43:04 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

Go ahead deny all you want. I will say this I should have realized it
from the beginning. You
said you are 100 percent to able dispute all I saywell that means
nothing. I m not worriedaboutyou proving me wrong it will never happen.
I don't have to prove you wrong the Bible has
 already done that for me. You made mention
you don't make fun of handicapped people.
once again you call eople who use sign language retarded how idiotic can
you be as well as hypocratcal
BTW masturbation is for the stupid people
who an't get a woman yo no like you.
I am happily married don't do it. sorry charlie.
Jesus Saves.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:24:35 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

I read on one of the post on you site that this guy I can't remember who
told you that even
science admits there is a God. I think this guy
was also a scientist I applaud him he knows the truth. Why is it you
can't accpt the truth when true science does.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:53:25 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

jeff wrote:
>
> Go ahead deny all you want.

	I didn't deny anything, in fact I agreed with you that we are headed
into a one world government, world courts, global laws, NO CHOICES!  What I
disagree with is that your bible is somehow special for predicting the fact
that tyrants universally want the same thing, and that is TO RULE THE WORLD.

> I will say this I should have realized it
> from the beginning. You
> said you are 100 percent to able dispute all I saywell that means
> nothing. I m not worriedaboutyou proving me wrong it will never happen.

	All I proved is that your bible is not very special for predicting the
patently obvious.  It was widely understood at the time that Julius Cæsar
wanted to rule the world, with he himself as Pontifex Maximus (the living god).
THIS is why your blatant prophecy was even included in the new testament.

> I don't have to prove you wrong the Bible has
>  already done that for me.

	Your bible is a thought virus, but that was the opening act of our now
run-into-the-ground performance artwork.  :o)

> You made mention
> you don't make fun of handicapped people.
> once again you call eople who use sign language retarded how idiotic can
> you be as well as hypocratcal

	Wow, Jeff, you really stuck your foot in the sh*t that time.  Everyone
reading your words already knows I haven't said anything of the sort, but to
give you the benefit of the doubt, since  I'm a Unix user, I have the utility
called "grep".  I will grep -ri "sign language" the whole website.

motherload4.html:They speak as well as a retarded human using sign language,
so I guess I just made you look foolish, sorry.  ;o)  I've watched Coco the
gorilla say "me go out" and "my kitty" which is equal to that of a tard.  And
after watching the behaviors (and facial features) of gorillas and negroes, I'd
say we are closer than you think!

	It appears I have not said anything detrimental about people who use
sign language, in fact, I even know the American sign language [ASL] (tho it's
worthless since the most commonly used is C sign).  I did however refer to a
tard, as a tard, but I've always had an intolerance for stupidity as you know.

> BTW masturbation is for the stupid people
> who an't get a woman yo no like you.

	I have had more beautiful women from all over the world, than you can
imagine.  Just ask some of the people I've shared photos with (such as
Frederick).  :o)  And as for masturbation, if you think you're going to lie and
say you've never done it, you'll only make yourself look even MORE silly.  :o)

> I am happily married don't do it. sorry charlie.

	Oops!  There you go.  I'd be curious to know what kind of a woman a guy
like you would end up with.  I _can_ imagine, but I'd sure like to know.  :o)

> Jesus Saves.

(Does that mean satan spends?)  ;o)

	There are no tangible results for religion.  Science saves, and the
results are seen on a GLOBAL SCALE!  Have you heard in the news about the new
incurable respiratory disease that is spreading across china?  CDC is afraid
what will happen WHEN (not if) it spreads here.  If a cure is to be found, it
will be up to Science (not gods) to do it.  If you ever contract this disease,
you will die.  However, I don't know why you bother with medicine in the first
place, since god has this paradise waiting for [people like you].  :o)

James

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:49:30 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

regardless of how you cover it up yu plainly called people retarded that
used sign.
there u go again retarded humans using sign language. i use sign and i
definitely am not retarded wish i could say the same for you.
you sent me a e-mail last nght that said woman
was a mistake made by God. hard for me to believe any woman would want
you when you said that. i guess you will lie and say you did not send
it. you would never be capable of having a beautiful woman such as i
have so keep dreaming for your info i have tried to talk to frederick
but he is chicken sh*t to write me back. i would love to prove him
stupid just as i have you

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:18:38 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

sorry to disagree with you but it is so much fun.
asl is probably the top form of sign known to man and i would dare say
most widly used form
in the world today. ask someone who knows
instead of your atheist scientist. pidgeon sign
runs a close second. never heard of c sign.
is that the kind of sign when you stick your middle finger up at some
one.
that is prpbably the only sign you know anything about.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:02:13 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

jeff wrote:
>
> regardless of how you cover it up yu plainly called people retarded that
> used sign.

	I said that the communication produced by CoCo the gorilla using sign
language was about EQUAL to that of a retarded human.  Get your facts straight!

	My point was that by observing the gorilla "speak" in sign, and
observing the negro, I've come to the conclusion that there is tremendous
similarities between ALL of the great apes.  This revelation comes even prior
to the DNA analysis which conclusively proves the similarities.

> there u go again retarded humans using sign language. i use sign and i
> definitely am not retarded wish i could say the same for you.

	Some who read your writings would beg to differ.  ;o)

> you sent me a e-mail last nght that said woman
> was a mistake made by God. hard for me to believe any woman would want
> you when you said that.

	That was a quote by Friedrich Nietzsche, in 1895.  The thing which I
say often that gets ME into trouble is that women seem to be born with an
innate _need_ to believe.  This of course forces women to adopt religions.  It
is a rare woman indeed which is truly atheist.  My atheism has cost me all but
one relationship, that one relationship was lost because of my morality.

> i guess you will lie and say you did not send
> it.

	You would guess wrong.  :o)  I did send it, you just misinterpreted it.
The message was sent to about 50 people by blind carbon copy.  They can all
vouch for the contents.  You do seem to have a comprehension difficulty.

> you would never be capable of having a beautiful woman such as i
> have so keep dreaming

	Hey, I live in the midwest, all we have here are fat women, and SUPER
fat women.  Obesity is so common that they don't count the number of women who
_are_ obese, but rather the small percentage who are NOT!  That's why my last
girlfriend was from Australia, and from France before that.  I'm currently
interested in Russian women, but haven't singled any _one_ out yet.  The
difficulty is not finding an atheist Russian (most are) but rather SINCERE
Russian women.  Most just want a green card to be a USA citizen and escape the
poverty of the collapsed former Soviet Union.  Women in Russia are thin because
cars are scarce (thus they walk everywhere) and food is expensive and in short
supply (contrary to here where fatty foods are dirt cheap and plentiful).

> for your info i have tried to talk to frederick
> but he is chicken sh*t to write me back.

	Fred is out of town, and will be back (and able to reply to your snotty
message soon).  I've changed the MX so that _all_ messages sent to apostles
carbon copy to a common account, so I may more easily post them to the
Motherload.  I have your message to Fred, want to know what you said to him?

Subject:
   Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:20:33 -0600 (CST)
   From: [removed]@[removed].net (jeff [removed])
     To: frederick@antichrist.net

you are a f*cking pathetic faggot

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

	Since Fred LOVES stuff like this, expect to get a NICE insultive reply
from him just as soon as he gets back.  :o)  As the _last_ in the apostle
series, he gets the _least_ amount of email, so the few he does get, ALWAYS
elicit a response, and usually a very in-depth one at that!

> i would love to prove him
> stupid just as i have you

	That won't happen, for as with myself, Fred has a genius level IQ!

James

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:37:02 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> sorry to disagree with you but it is so much fun.

	You really do need to get a different hobby.  ;o)

> asl is probably the top form of sign known to man and i would dare say
> most widly used form

	Most widely used in the USA.  Remember, the USA is not the center of
the  Universe!  Yes, I learned ASL, but have recently come to find (after
trying to use ASL with younger deaf people) that there is a new sign language
that they use, it is close to ASL in mnemonics, however syntactically VERY MUCH
different.  It comes across as more of a form of "baby talk", and I presume it
was created due to the fact that given modern advancements in Science, most of
the deaf today have other handicaps, including learning disabilities.

	I was told this language is called C sign, but have no way to verify
this.  My mom and dad both use ASL, that's why it's the version that I
understand.  My dad was forced to learn sign language due to a total hearing
loss caused by meningitis, and cochlear implant is not possible in his case.
Deafness is the least of his worries, a stroke to the right occipital lobe has
left him left-field-of-vision blind.  Thanks to Science however, he's lived 20
years longer than he would have without Science.  The more amazing aspect of my
dad is that he has an indwelling pacemaker/defibrilator.  Heart attack will NOT
be what kills him, and thanks to anticoagulant therapy, neither will stroke.

> in the world today. ask someone who knows
> instead of your atheist scientist.

	My brother married a sign language interpreter, I can ask her.  She
makes her living interpreting for the deaf.  She knows every form of sign.

> pidgeon sign
> runs a close second. never heard of c sign.

	That's what I was told it is called.  Syntactically it's similar to
baby talk, and the most widely used form of sign language today (since the
advent of cochlear implant technology.  Thanks to cochlear implants, VERY FEW
people need be deaf today!  Perhaps you too can benefit from cochlear implants.
If you do, be sure to attribute regaining your hearing to god, and not to the
Scientists like me who designed and perfected the technology, OK?  ;o)

> is that the kind of sign when you stick your middle finger up at some
> one.

	You really are a crude fellow.  :o/

> that is prpbably the only sign you know anything about.

	I know and have learned more than you might imagine.  I speak 5
languages (in order of proficiency) English, French, Italian, German and
Russian.  I most commonly write in English, French, German and Russian.
Cyrillic characters (Russian) are a killer.  I attempted to learn asian
languages but gave up due to the complexity.  See, I'm not perfect.  :o)

	Now here's the pivotal question, how many languages do YOU know?

James

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:08:38 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: tsagoof
Subject: Re: A letter to the Apostles of Antichrist.net

Okay, is the new perfect eternity going to have death metal and classical
music playing there for all eternity with ice, snow, and beautiful
maidens?   If not, I want no part of it.  Being forced to listen to rap
or gospel with happy clapping Christians for all eternity would be Hell.
Therefore, if the new eternal creation is going to be anything like that,
then it was made to torture me, and its master is really the great evil
one, Satan.

Maybe the Holy Spirit inspired the bible to mislead stupid people.  Just
a thought.

Frederick

At 08:52 PM 3/15/2003 -0600, you wrote:

      This letter is mostly in response to James. However, since he
      can not seem to accept email I would like to pass it on to
      the rest of the chain of command. Thank you. Todd



      I have read a great deal of information on your website
      including responses from Christians and Antichristians. While
      I would agree that some of the responses from the Christian
      side were a bit abrupt and lacking decent language, I must
      also say that responses from Antichristians seemed mostly to
      be rudimentary in their concept and without much depth in
      their reasoning. I will admit that you have gone into great
      detail in your beliefs and I know that you must
      whole-heartedly believe in what you write. But I would like
      to offer a contrasting point of view. In saying that you
      prefer truth over comfort it seems that you have offered a
      paradox. Your views seemed exactly geared toward making your
      life easier for you and this enables you to stay away from
      views that would require you to live outside of the comfort
      zone that you have set up for yourself in denying God.
      Christianity is believers submitting themselves to servitude
      and tribulation to God and Jesus Christ, specifically in life
      on earth and during the coming tribulations before rapture
      and before the Wrath of God. And perhaps it is too difficult
      or too unappealing for you to live by the standard that has
      been set. When all other dialogue has failed with a non
      believer, I generally offer this. If there is even the
      absolute slightest chance in your mind that all that God and
      Jesus Christ have told and foretold is true with the
      opportunity of living eternity in Heaven or in Hell, in which
      would you rather be?But I am a little ahead of myself&.
      Please give as much time and thought into reading what I have
      sent as I have in reading and attempting to understand your
      point of view. Thanks --Todd

      You wrote ---- while I prefer to put truth over comfort, as I
      simply will not live a lie.

      Then wrote --- If you must assume something, assume something
      easy to test.

      My thought --- Why if you seek truth over comfort, would you
      rely on ease and comfort of something easy to test?

All axioms must be easy to test.  And the comfort thing, your supreme
being in control idea foster nihilism, what could be an easier way out
than that.  What we believe puts us at the helm and potentially paying
for it in the here and now should we err.  How's that more comfortable
than skirting responsibility?

Frederick

      You wrote---

      ·         Finally, and most importantly...
       o  All beliefs should be open to question

      Ok, this being true I have a question.

      You wrote --- I freely admit that it would be nice if I could
      believe in a god, if there really WAS a god, however,
      evidence of evil disproves the existence of god,

      Question --- To what God are you referring? It seems that
      since to you evil disproves existence of Godthat you must not
      be referring to the God held in belief of most Christians.

                An excerpt from www.evidence.info   Atheists often
      claim that the presence of evil is an argument against the
      existence of God. The Christian God is supposed to be both
      loving and all-powerful. Despite these characteristics, God
      seems to be unable or unwilling to prevent the vast amount of
      evil and suffering in the world. The atheist concludes that
      either God is not loving or not all-powerful or that God does
      not exist, because if He did exist, He could stop all the
      suffering. The atheistic arguments contain some subtle
      assumptions that, as I will show, do not apply to the God of
      the Bible and His created universe. Even the assumption that
      evil and suffering are bad for us must be questioned in light
      of what the Bible says.

      What I have found is that atheists like to say that their
      arguments against God's existence specifically exclude the
      God of the Bible as a God who could exist. However, in
      reality, atheists produce generic arguments against a generic
      God whose characteristics and creation do not match those
      that are described in the Bible. Atheists may not accept what
      the Bible says, but they cannot say the God of the Bible
      cannot logically exist and then ignore what the Bible has to
      say about the characteristics of God. If the atheist states
      that the God of the Bible is logically impossible, he cannot
      pick and choose which arguments from the Bible to accept in
      order to "prove" his point. Let's formalize the atheist's
      arguments:

      1.      God is all-powerful, loving, and perfect.

      2.      A perfect, loving God would create a universe that
      was perfect (e.g., no evil and suffering).

      3.      The universe is not perfect but contains evil and
      suffering.

      Therefore, God does not exist.

      The Bible does state that God is "all powerful." In the Old
      Testament, one of God's titles is "El Shadday," which is
      translated "God Almighty."1 The Bible also states that God is
      loving.2 In fact, the Bible indicates that God is love.3 The
      Bible also indicates that God is perfect.4 So, we can agree
      that the first statement is a correct interpretation of what
      the Bible says about the characteristics of God.

      The next statement indicates that a perfect, loving God must
      create a universe that is perfect. This is the statement that
      is false and invalidates the argument. Nowhere does the Bible
      state that the universe was created to be perfect. God
      Himself called it "good"5 and "very good,"6 but never
      "perfect." In fact, God Himself stated that part of the
      original creation was "not good."7 The Bible states that the
      current universe is not perfect,8 but was designed to be
      temporary9 and will be replaced with a perfect universe10
      that will be permanent.11 Science also tells us that the
      universe was designed to be temporary.12

      Why would God create an imperfect, temporary universe only to
      replace it later with a perfect one? Why wouldn't God have
      created a perfect universe in the first place? This is a good
      question, but shows a lack of understanding of the biblical
      reason of why God created the universe. One can find the
      reason for the creation of the universe in the first few
      chapters of the Bible. God created humans in order to have a
      personal relationship with them, which He had with Adam and
      Eve before they sinned (Genesis 2). Jesus said that the first
      and foremost commandment was to "Love the Lord your God..."13
      A personal relationship, characterized by the possibility of
      love, is only possible if created beings are given free will.
      If God had created the universe with no possibility of evil
      or sin, then the created beings would have had no free will,
      and, as such, would essentially be programmed computers. Such
      beings would be incapable of love, since love involves making
      a choice - which requires the ability to choose not to love.
      For example, I can program my computer to say "I love you"
      when it starts up. Does this mean that the computer really
      loves me? Of course not! Likewise, God could have programmed
      humans to say that they loved Him, without the possibility of
      rejecting Him or performing evil deeds. However, these
      programmed beings would exhibit about as much true love as my
      computer - not a very satisfying relationship. Therefore, God
      created the universe for the express purpose of allowing free
      will spiritual beings the opportunity to have fellowship with
      Him (and likewise, reject Him).

      God's purposes in creating the universe go beyond merely
      creating free will beings that love Him in this temporary
      universe. Jesus explained the ultimate goal of God in the
      parable of the banquet:

      Jesus replied: "A certain man [representing God] was
      preparing a great banquet and invited many guests. At the
      time of the banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had
      been invited, 'Come, for everything is now ready.' But they
      all alike began to make excuses. The first said, 'I have just
      bought a field, and I must go and see it. Please excuse me.'
      Another said, 'I have just bought five yoke of oxen, and I'm
      on my way to try them out. Please excuse me.' Still another
      said, 'I just got married, so I can't come.' The servant came
      back and reported this to his master. Then the owner of the
      house became angry and ordered his servant, 'Go out quickly
      into the streets and alleys of the town and bring in the
      poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame.' 'Sir,' the
      servant said, 'what you ordered has been done, but there is
      still room.' Then the master told his servant, 'Go out to the
      roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my
      house will be full. (Luke 14:16-23)

      Therefore, God wants not only a relationship with humans in
      this universe, but a relationship with billions14 of these
      creatures in His future, perfect creation. If God's purpose
      is to have relationships with free will beings in a future
      creation, then there must be a means by which these beings
      can make a choice to enter or not enter into this
      relationship. The means by which we make this choice is
      exactly the message of the Bible.

      Therefore. the Bible says that God allows temporary, bounded
      evil15 in order to allow free will beings to have the ability
      to love and to make choices.

  In conclusion:

       1. God did not design this universe to be perfect, but as a
          temporary creation where free will beings make choices
          about where they want to spend eternity (in the new
          creation, which will be perfect).
       2. The new creation will be perfect, but will not have
          absolute free will for its inhabitants. We must agree in
          this life to give up some of our free will in the next
          life. Those who are unwilling to give up their own free
          will choices will not be forced to do so in the next
          life. However, they will have to be separated from the
          new creation, since God is unwilling to compromise His
          character.
       3. All people will suffer at least somewhat because of bad
          choices that others make. In addition, because of the
          temporary nature of the universe, some bad things will
          happen to us due to "bad luck" or chance. However, these
          things will teach us to be more sensitive to the needs of
          others, and will prepare us to show God's love to others
          when they suffer through similar things. God want us to
          learn from this life, not just have a party.


Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:16:28 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: True Prophecy

genius level and yet ignorant enough to say there is no God. I will
never understand where
the genius part comes in. but if you say so
keep dreaming.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:18:05 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

It is irrelevant how many languages I know or
anything else for that matter. I only know the
God in whom I believe in. I only came to your
site out of curiosity but when I read some of it
and saw how you and others  boldly and defiantly cursed My Lord it kind
of peeved me.
I have done nothing but defend the truth amongst your twisting it.
Anyway it has gotten to the point where it is ridiculous and has no
value anymore. You can be assured I will not
waste anymore of my time. You can also  tell
your friends that they need not respond because I will just delete them
without even looking at them like i do all the smut that I get. I only
hope one day you will come to know the truth  and stop this foolishness.
I am through now.
                                        Jeff

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:29:55 -0800 (GMT)
From: Vampire Cowboy
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: my phone #

Hi James,

My web site address is www.vincentstone.com. My phone # is ???-???-????. I
live in [removed]. Best time to call me is on the weekends, however, you may
call me during the week if you like. What state do you live in? I'm
suspicious of you, James. Is that feeling unfounded? Don't be deceived by
my human name.

The Son of Perdition

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:16:03 -0600
From: Khan
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: [no subject]

My Name is Amun

The purpose of the Anti-Christ is not to destroy the earth but to change it
most basic of human instinct. God is man completely free of these
instincts. The four horsemen are the tools. The Apostles are the only the
story tells not the people who perdict what is coming.


AK128

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:56:51 +0000
From: gabe
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: a christian with questions

hey James,
my name is Gabe,

I read some stuff on antichrist.net and was wondering, what is your purpose?
  why is christianity so bothersome that you would spend your time rallying
against it?  i know a few token reasons why one would do this. But let's
assume that you and the others who are on this site do this to free
christians of thier misguided faith.  That you are truth seekers who need to
see and touch and taste the evidence of truth.

i read alot of deep science based, history buff based arguements against my
faith, but as well learned as you may be, it should be cautioned that you
have not read every book written and may not have all the right evidence.
here's what i mean...

a true scientist will use the same method of testing on all things.  and
this "ruler" is how scientists measure and deduce reasonably.
you find out how hard a rock is by testing it against a hardness scale.
there is a similar method of judgement in literary research.  You can judge
what people mean by the context of thier situation, thier culture,
and the physical literalness of the words they use.

all this is to say that many have come to my faith through the same methods
of research that perhaps you and your like-minded friends have used to come
to your conclusions.  there are real facts, our hunger as humans is to find
those.  Why? It was built into us.

the bottom line line on christians...

It's like this,
the true words of God are pure,
when they are placed in the hands of men, they can be twisted and
interpreted.  Lucky for us God knows this and has made us able to seek the
real truth and find it.  And God haspromised to preserve his words to us.
Books thicker than a phone book have been written about this and i don't
wish to waste too much time on the idea, but needless to say, it's there.
also, christians are people too, some are super smart, others are very much
not, but part of christ's teaching was compassion, and love of your
neighbor.  there are many christians i strongly disagree with on a great
number of matters, but i leave that to God.  I'm responsible for me and the
way i deal with others.  So every christian, just like any other person, is
a bit different.  consider me a truth seeker like you, but i  came to that
other conclusion.  Let's discuss.

People can argue religion vs science without stopping until their lives end,
but question is... Why is this worth our time?

I'd be happy to converse with you, and i'll spare you the emotionalism and
name calling that you may be used to.  If you're really a truth seeker like
me, this should be great for both of us.  Cause hey, we're devoting our
lives to this stuff, so we should be able to stand for it.

hope to hear from you or any of your friends soon!
Gabe

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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:40:50 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

At 10:24 AM 3/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Wow you are brilliant.

"Brilliant" as you've sarcastically employed it is using Web-TV you
illiterate piece of sh*t.

>  You hide behind a f*cking retard such as James

I hide behind no one.

>and cant be a
>man to respond to me on your own.

Poor crippled Jeff.  You are lucky you are crippled.  That's probably why
people like me don't kick the sh*t out of people like you everyday.  We
feel bad for your dumb, lame ass.

>  Thats okay
>maybe James will let you suck his centimeter
>peter to give you comfort in Hell.

Once again, there is no hell ;o)  (I take that back, if you are a cripple
using web-tv, that's hell.)

>  You faggots are worthless. Everything
>James has said is a bunch of lies and he knows it. more than that the
>christians know it.

He posts all their worthless babble.  It's funny to watch them on TV, too,
when you're bored and high and at a point too stupid to appreciate Cheech
and Chong anymore, you can always find fresh stupidity in those blathering
fools on the worship channels.

>  He just wont post their writings because he is a
>f*cking yellow bellied no good for nothing stinking piece of monkey sh*t
>just like you.

And this is what you did with the free education this great country gave
you.  Threw it out the window on web-tv.  Shut your meat socket, boy.


>  I have done proved my superior intelligence over his and
>he bans me from writing.

You have "done" proved your superior pickle kissing ability.

>   You are probably just like him
>you have no balls

On the contrary, I have two naturally conceived kids.

>  no brain no sense of reality.

I'm not the one endorsing the some super magic special person named Jesus
super magically made the earth out of super magically nothing 6000 years
ago.  You moron.

>Go ahead delete this I suspect you will but I got
>out what I want to say. You are a Loser. Go to
>Hell asswipe.


I'll delete this after I use it to mock you.  I'll never be in hell.  Even
if I was in your position I wouldn't be using web-tv.  Therefore, I won't
go to hell.

Frederick


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:12:29 -0500
From: Damen
To: haydn@antichrist.net
Subject: Not Another Christian

Hey,
    I wanna start off by saying that it is conforting to know that there
are intellegent people in this world. It seems everywhere I look
someone's trying to push their religious beliefs on me. Personally I
could care if other's waste their time but when you try to recruit me
then I have a problem. I was born and raised christian. When I turned 13
I had a lot of doubts about the whole thing but I was to afraid to
question that which was burnt into my head. Thankfully I realized that it
was all bullsh*t. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you in a way. Maybe if
for nothing more than exposing the falsehood of religion.

Homegrown Antichrist:
Damen


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:31:11 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

you come screwing aroun people like me and i will kill your f*cking
retarded ass faggot suck on that you stinking pece o mutilated dog sh*t

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:42:25 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: You are a mental incompetent

you need to check your spelling and run together words asshole.one is
spelled one
not on. i can't help it if you don't teach your
stupid brat kids about Jesus. they will be the ones laughed at when
their burning in hell alongside their poor idiotic sh*t for brains
daddy.
like i told James I am not scared of you or anything you think you could
do to me. You
can do nothing without the Lord.
 i do not recieve e-mail from the likes of scum like you anymore I can
block you and I will so don't waste your time responding asswipe.
looks like i got the ast laugh you stinking
carpet munher. You teach your retard kids how to be queer too.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Jeff is NOT one to be pointing fingers given the MANY
               mistakes in the overwhelming majority of his messages!


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:52:26 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: You are a mental incompetent

talking about spelling i am not the one who puts asterisk marks in my
words. i learned how to spell in kindergarten. get you story straight I
am
a happily married man I have no boyfriend. I suggest if you are looking
for one James is
available seeing he called woman a mistake and claims it came from a
book. I have more
mentality in my snot than you will ever have period.you penis breath.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: I remove the vowels in the swear words before posting the
               messages for public view, out of common decency, something
               that "Jeff" seems to desperately lack!


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:08:30 -0600
From: tsagoof
To: 'Frederick' <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: RE: A letter to the Apostles of Antichrist.net

            With God, all things are possible. Working from that
statement I believe this….The new and perfect eternity is a home of
unending happiness. If you have ever had a time in your life where you
were just completely happy from the inside out, imagine that feeling
being the perpetual way that you existed for eternity.

            God knows us. Every thought word and deed. He knows what
makes us happy. Be it Death Metal, classical music, ice and snow, or
beautiful maidens. However, when it comes to the new perfect eternity,
you have to be open to ideas and realities that you could not even
possibly imagine while you are here on Earth. Stepping outside of
ourselves to be open to impossible possibilities is the first step to
accepting what is waiting for us and being offered to us. Consider being
granted a state of complete awareness, enlightenment and knowledge of
everything in existence and everything possible where nothing is
impossible. A state of existence that precludes any possibility of
sadness or harm. Can I say if there will be ice and snow and beautiful
maidens? No, I can not. However, I believe that you are sincerely
limiting yourselves by believing that these are the only things that
could possibly make you happy, meaning earthly things. There is no“
being forced” with anything. All that you survey is happiness.
Maybe the Holy Spirit inspired the Bible to educate then test all people.
Another thought. --Todd

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:38:32 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: tsagoof
Subject: RE: A letter to the Apostles of Antichrist.net

At 10:08 AM 3/17/2003 -0600, you wrote:

                  With God, all things are possible. Working from
      that statement I believe this&.The new and perfect eternity
      is a home of unending happiness. If you have ever had a time

I doubt that heaven could be one place.  You see, I am perfectly happy at
a Morbid Angel concert while others are frightened or appalled at the
symbolism and dark imagery.  The feeling of perfect happiness you
describe occurs there.  I am sure that does not hold true for everyone.
I can be perfectly happy here.  All the evidence suggests that the
universe is always changing.  Nothing is static.  That's why eternal
happiness would be boring.  Conflict, even friendly competition, creates
the possibility of the perception of achievement and happiness.  What's
wrong with the universe we're in.  I find little value in condemning
reality as somehow lacking.  You are an ant on a cosmic hill, as am I,
and unfit to judge the imperfection of this universe.

4th

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:41:54 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

At 06:31 AM 3/17/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>you come screwing aroun people like me and i will kill your f*cking
>retarded ass faggot suck on that you stinking pece o mutilated dog sh*t

Woops, did I tap a nerve.  You got beat up a lot in school, Jeff?  You big
baby.  When you can get up to get your gun with your cripple attachment
from Christ in time, then you can kill me.  You make me laugh.  You
couldn't stomp an ant!  hahahaha!  Get it?  No leg. hahaha.  Shut your pipe
shiner, boy.

Frederick - High Commander of the Legion of Abusive High School Students
that picked on Jeff

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:55:39 -0800 (PST)
From: rojelio
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: anti christ candidate

we believe that the anti christ is a asiatic hebrew from the tribe of
judah under the name of roger bateman jr and is currently in texas, the
beef state(the beast state) texas has the most cattle brands in the world
he also is the leading candidate because he speaks arimaic the language
of jesus and can interpret unknown texts


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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:24:59 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

Looks like your little pussy friend mike aka.
mockingbird was right I will write today. Since
I can't write to him tell the faggot son of a bitch that he sucks. I
also would have no trouble proving that idiotic fool stupid. Oh while
your at it tell that Gabriel she can kiss my ass too the atheist slut.
Tell her she don't scare me either with her german hitler loving ass. It
is quite evident her mother is a bitch too. hope she likes it cause
there is not a damn thing she will ever do about it. i have said it
before and I will say
it again I don't give a sh*t about her enemy list.
she comes f*cking with me or mine she will be disposed of as will anyone
of you pussies.
You still fail to let christians post their opinions
all there is is your atheist scum you are such a f*cking coward piece of
sh*t.
you also still avoid all my post where I prove your ass stupid that is
why noone knows what i really say. once again tell Gabriel she is stupid
and a biotch. tell mockingbird to go f*ck himself.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:50 -0500
From: Frederick
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

This one guy typed in motherlode 4 that you shouldn't judge a religion by
its adherents.  Hmmm.  By that same token, should we not judge National
Socialist German Worker's Party simply, because some of its adherents did
bad things?

I'm referring to this passage in motherlode 4----

i think it is foolish to judge a religion from the ppl who believe in it.
thats just stereotyping. stereotyping by thinking that the actions of the
christians you know identifies the entire religion.
if a person acts evilly, it doesnt mean his religion is evil. take the
Muslims for eg. you think their religion teaches them to kill and make war?
no, they have misinterpreted the text of their religion. they have failed to
see what God is trying to show them, and they have warped the meaning of the
text for their own manipulation.

Okay, maybe the Nazi's just misinterpreted Mein Kampf.
RIDICULOUS!

hahaha,

4th

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:43:23 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

I just noticed that mockingbird aka.Mike was
fourteen at th time of his writings. how old is he
now 2. he is one stupid mixed up piece of
Canadian sh*t. tell him a real man said so.
I bet he is a faggot or worse still a virgin.
Good day

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:52:44 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

better yet you have my permision to give my
address to mockingbird mike and gabriel the hopeless pricks I would love
to tell them myself what kind of filthy vile scum  they actually are.
good day

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:11:53 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

you made reference that i call you both genius
and stupid in my post. you are the one that has
no perception of what you read. what i say is you claim to be genius but
i prove you stupid. which is not hard to do. again i implore you if you
will tell that little pussy wet behind the ear punk mockingbird to email
me. he seems to want to run his ignorant mouth off lets see if he is any
match for my intelligence. I already know the answer to that one. Hell
no that punk ass wanna be smart terd face piece of canadian sh*t cannot
hold a candle to me. neither can anyone of you four jerkoffs. i have
done proved that many many many times. there is no sense
in you putting asterisks in my words because you and your dumbass
atheist crap face f*cker friends use the same words. I recall you
called me a blackhearted bastard. one more for the good guys. for your
info you have not taught me any words. I know more words than you will
ever imagine. one more time you are in no way whatsoever a influence on
me. stop smoking the crack and get a life. better yet get a real job.
BECAUSE SCIENCE SUCKS. :) :)

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:06:27 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> Looks like your little pussy friend mike aka.
> mockingbird was right I will write today. Since
> I can't write to him tell the faggot son of a bitch that he sucks. I
> also would have no trouble proving that idiotic fool stupid.

	Everyone in the whole WORLD sees you as stupid.  ;o)  Jeff, you are a
joke, that's the reason why you exist, to amuse people such as we.  :o)

> Oh while
> your at it tell that Gabriel she can kiss my ass too the atheist slut.
> Tell her she don't scare me either with her german hitler loving ass. It
> is quite evident her mother is a bitch too. hope she likes it cause
> there is not a damn thing she will ever do about it. i have said it
> before and I will say
> it again I don't give a sh*t about her enemy list.
> she comes f*cking with me or mine she will be disposed of as will anyone
> of you pussies.

	Gabriel is a MALE you dumb ass.  Moreover, the name Gabriel is right
out of the bible you DUMB ASS!  You really do have some form of cognitive
disorder, that's become evident [to me at least].  Although I was only in
medical school for 2 years, I am able to see you really DO have problems!

> You still fail to let christians post their opinions

	I post everyone who writes, I exclude nothing.  I even POST YOU!  In
the past, I would delete derogatory messages such as yours, but not anymore!

> all there is is your atheist scum you are such a f*cking coward piece of
> sh*t.
> you also still avoid all my post where I prove your ass stupid that is
> why noone knows what i really say. once again tell Gabriel she is stupid
> and a biotch. tell mockingbird to go f*ck himself.

	I've posted 100% of your lunacy.  If you've sent a message and I didn't
post it, it's because I didn't receive it.  Send it again.  Just as with the
snail mail, email is not a 100% guaranteed thing, especially since you are
using the worst quality, most idiot-friendly ISP known to man, [removed].

James

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:23:40 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

thats funny i have not seen one christian post say i was stupid. if any
one is mental it is you
retard. he gives a bad name to being a man so do you. real men are
intelligent such as i.
only problem i have is stupid atheist.
or your info tv has been around a hell of a lot
longer than computers and has the monopoly on technology stupid ass

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:22:20 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: Tequila Mockingbird
Cc: Gabriel
Subject: The fool seeks your patronage.  :o)

jeff wrote:
>
> I just noticed that mockingbird aka.Mike was
> fourteen at th time of his writings. how old is he
> now 2. he is one stupid mixed up piece of
> Canadian sh*t. tell him a real man said so.
> I bet he is a faggot or worse still a virgin.
> Good day
>
> 2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
> IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
> ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
> BECOME NEW.

--

jeff wrote:
>
> better yet you have my permision to give my
> address to mockingbird mike and gabriel the hopeless pricks I would love
> to tell them myself what kind of filthy vile scum  they actually are.
> good day
>
> 2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
> IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
> ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
> BECOME NEW.

jeff [removed] <[removed]@[removed].net>

Have fun!  Be sure to cc any replies to ME so I can post them on the site.  :o)

James

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:31:41 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> you made reference that i call you both genius
> and stupid in my post. you are the one that has
> no perception of what you read. what i say is you claim to be genius but
> i prove you stupid. which is not hard to do.

	If it's not hard to do, how come you've never done it?

> again i implore you if you
> will tell that little pussy wet behind the ear punk mockingbird to email
> me.

	I forwarded your messages, including your email address to them.  What
they do with it is out of my control.  However, I hope they do put you in your
place, and cc the messages to me so I can post them.  It is fun to mock you.

> he seems to want to run his ignorant mouth off lets see if he is any
> match for my intelligence.

	My brothers dog eats his own sh*t, and has superior intelligence to you.

> I already know the answer to that one. Hell
> no that punk ass wanna be smart terd face piece of canadian sh*t cannot
> hold a candle to me.

	Dude, you have some serious issues.  You need help.

> neither can anyone of you four jerkoffs. i have
> done proved that many many many times.

	Why do you talk like Jethro Bodine of the Beverly hillbillys?

> there is no sense
> in you putting asterisks in my words because you and your dumbass
> atheist crap face f*cker friends use the same words.

	I use them now, sh*theads like you bring out the WORST in me!  :o/

> I recall you
> called me a blackhearted bastard. one more for the good guys. for your
> info you have not taught me any words.

	That's not up to you or I to decide, it was already decided in the
minds of the thousands of people who read this website.  They've already
concluded that you are a fool, and they clearly see that your vocabulary is
increasing DUE TO OUR DIALOGS!  Of course, you continue to deny this.

> I know more words than you will
> ever imagine.

	"Because you done graduated the third grade!"  :o)

> one more time you are in no way whatsoever a influence on
> me.

	Again, the readers can decide that on their own.  :o)  As a learned
scholar, I can _clearly_ see the positive influence I've had upon you.  Now if
I can only get you to quit believing in gods, demons, devils, and spooks.

> stop smoking the crack and get a life. better yet get a real job.
> BECAUSE SCIENCE SUCKS. :) :)

	Man, I wish I knew who your therapists were, so I could show them what
you say.  What do you think the boys in the clean white lab coats would say, or
better, what would they DO for you, after they read those words?  Personally, I
would provide you nothing, you f*cking ingrate!  And these words are coming
from a die-hard altruist who exists to help others through philanthropy!

James

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:49:15 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> thats funny i have not seen one christian post say i was stupid.

	To be a christian, the prerequisite is stupidity.  Stupidity, and of
course gullibility.  :o)  Ergo, all christians are as dumb as you are.

> if any
> one is mental it is you
> retard. he gives a bad name to being a man so do you. real men are
> intelligent such as i.

	You are a welfare slob, you are not a real man.  You are a parasite.
You exist because the government [not people such as myself] feels sorry for
you and your "disability" and gives you a free, albeit meager existence.  If
anyone is pathetic, it is you!  You really do need to take a look at yourself.

> only problem i have is stupid atheist.

	You have many problems, atheists are not among them.

> or your info tv has been around a hell of a lot
> longer than computers and has the monopoly on technology stupid ass

	Give me the days (not long ago, the early 1990's) when there were no
such thing as christians on the Internet.  :o/  The best years of the Internet
were the arpanet/bitnet days when everyone was just as I, ATHEIST!  It was a
bane to our existence to allow people such as yourself to come here.  If you
had to know how to navigate a Unix server (as I do) you would NOT be here!

James

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:07:21 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

first of all I prove yo stuid all the time wake up and smell the coffee.
once again the only ones that menion me in their post are ignorant
atheist and that does not matter because they have not got good sense
anyway. there has not been one decent christian that has disagreed or
ever will disagree with me and that is what pisses you off.
apparenty your brother' s dog is not that bright because he has not eat
you ad all the christians
know you are the biggest piece of sh*t alive.
 can't wait for our creep frieds to e-mal me if they got the balls. I
have all the help I need his name is Jesus can I share him with you.
spakin of Jethro that is a form of he name Jeff.
you speak of Gabriel aving a Bible name. that
is ironic a atheist with a christian name. i bet his
mother is ashamed or should be. Jethro was a
christian person Just like me. I am glad I have such a wonderful
namesake.
you were cussing in you post long before I came along asswipe so do not
blame me.
once again no christian has concluded i am a fool just your idiotic
atheist scum.
sorry don't need a therapist but you need Jesus. Amen one more for the
good guys

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Now we know what happened to Jethro Bodine after they
               canceled the series.  :o)  Funny that he now pretends that
               he always understood the name Gabriel when just a few
               messages ago, he thought it was a girl's name and
               seemingly didn't know it was in the BIBLE!


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:13:58 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

like i told you before you stupid son of a bitch
ssi is money i worked for my entire life. i had
no contrl over losing my leg and not being able
to work. like i said i have had jobs that people relly benefit from like
the food industry. your science is not neded in the real world so f*ck
off.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: No industry has benefited more from Science than the
               agricultural industry.  Everyone but "Jeff" knows this.


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:17:01 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

 to be a atheist the prerequisite is to be a fool.
My God says fools will burn in Hell. the stupid
can always learn. so start learing STUPID.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:28:17 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

question. do you atheist become stupid f*cking
retarded moronic son of a bitch assholes over
night or does it take years of practice?
just wondering. :) :) :)

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:37:17 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject:

you ned tolearn how to count. the number of post on your site would not
and does not attribute to thousands of people that even care about your
stupid site.  well maybe 1000 stupid
atheist care. BTW a 1000 stupid atheist can be wrong and most definitely
are. later stupid.
SCIENCE SUCKS
SCIENCE SUCKS
SCIENCE SUCKS
SCIENCE SUCKS
SCIENCE SUCKS
SCIENCE SUCKS
GET THE PICTURE.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:51:20 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> like i told you before you stupid son of a bitch
> ssi is money i worked for my entire life.

	As I said, you do the math.  You paid in 7% of what you earned during
your "working career".  You will or already have received MORE than you paid
in.  In contrast, I will be eligible to retire at 62, and regardless of the
time I initiate my SS retirement, I will NOT be able to recoup what I've paid
in.  I would have to live to the age of 140.125 years to simply break even![1]
Now, given that you are consuming the monies I pay in, I can call you what ever
I like, it's my right, for I am your benefactor, whether _I_ like it or not.

> i had
> no contrl over losing my leg and not being able
> to work.

	Where was your god when you needed him?  Oh, that's right, god is a
myth, thus your pretend friend couldn't offer you salvation from this malady.

> like i said i have had jobs that people relly benefit from like
> the food industry.

	This is why I won't eat in restaurants.  ;o)  I worked my way through
college as a chef, and if everyone saw what I saw as a chef in a 5 star
restaurant, they wouldn't eat in restaurants either!

> your science is not neded in the real world so f*ck
> off.

	It saved your life, it's the reason you can walk, you can NOT deny this
fact.  Oh you will try, but in your heart you know I'm right.

James
1. This break-even calculation did not include interest, only principle.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:07:37 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

benefactor hell you ain't my nothing except my
bitch you moron. keep dreaming fag boy

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Anyone else enjoy the idea that your tax dollars benefit
               this f*ck?  You know, YOU work hard so he doesn't have to?


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:14:59 -0500
From: Tequila Mockingbird
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: The fool seeks your patronage. :o)

Thank you much, James. I'll adress the crap he says in this reply... I
don't quite feel like letting this moron know my email. Too many morons
know my email as it is... so, here goes...

To Jeff:

>jeff wrote:

> > I just noticed that mockingbird aka.Mike was
> > fourteen at th time of his writings. how old is he
> > now 2. he is one stupid mixed up piece of
> > Canadian sh*t. tell him a real man said so.
> > I bet he is a faggot or worse still a virgin.
> > Good day

Well, i'll start with the fact that i'm 15 now. Aside from the
mathematical problems with you calling me 2... I haven't shown
immaturity, so I don't know why you would call me this. But blah.

The rest of it is just mindless blatherings. Insulting me doesn't work...
especially when it comes from people like you, Jeff. Please don't waste
my time. And oh...A real man said so? Someone with a lot of time on their
hands insulting a teenager... Yeah, you're a REAL man.

> > better yet you have my permision to give my
> > address to mockingbird mike and gabriel the hopeless pricks I would love
> > to tell them myself what kind of filthy vile scum they actually are.
> > good day

Jeff, just to inform you here, James did give me your email. I don't want
to email you directly, as I don't particularly have anything much to say
to you, and I don't want you to have posession of my email. You're a
complete moron. You are a horrible representative of christianity.

>Have fun! Be sure to cc any replies to ME so I can post them on the site. :o)
>
>James

To James:

Sorry James. I really didn't want to give this idiot my email. I don't
feel like dealing with him. I go to highschool, I deal with enough idiots
as it is. I'm sure you'll understand...

Thanks! If he persists and sends you more emails regarding me, you can
forward them along if you like!

Mike

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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:39:09 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

hey dick breath your atheist buddies still have not written but wait i
have some explanations for that. First of all they probably are off
somewhere sucking each other's cock the faggot scum.
Secondly they are not as stupid as you and wish not to be humiliated by
someone of superior intelligence like myself.
Thirdly they are figments of your warped useless mind. I know maybe
theyare actually the little voices you hear in your head telling
you to be stupid. You know you really ought
to see a therapist for that problem.
oh well i can wait until then
Jesus saves
Santan sucks
science is a joke
you are a fool

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: Be patient, not everyone is an unemployed welfare slob such
               as you, Jeff. Some people have WORK or SCHOOL to attend to.


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:44:51 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

i can walk because my Lord gave me the grace to overcome this minor set
back in my life.
your stupid moronic cock sucking idiotic science with its ignorant
people in that field had nothing to do with it. word to your mama

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:55:51 -0600
From: First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re:

jeff wrote:
>
> i can walk because my Lord gave me the grace to overcome this minor set
> back in my life.
> your stupid moronic cock sucking idiotic science with its ignorant
> people in that field had nothing to do with it. word to your mama

	Jeff has made a statement to the people of the world who frequent
antichrist dot net.  He said that Science had nothing to do with the surgery
that saved his life, and the prosthetic leg which enables him to walk.

	I rest my case.

James

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:08:16 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

what the hell did that mean? you rest your dick in you friend freddys
mouth

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: This ignorant hillbilly fool does not know the meaning of
               the phrase "I rest my case". And to think he threatened to
               SUE me not long ago.  ;o)


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:12:39 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

try me you supid mother f*cking joke
at least I went to school asshole.
My God will take care of the likes of your depraved ass. and your stupid
kid too.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.


Editor's note: I'm sure everyone here is curious which school Jethro here
               attended, if only to keep OUR kids OUT of it!


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:14:54 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

i dont stomp ants i kick mother f*cking stupid retarded atheist ass and
i love doing it.
fag boy go f*ck you kid retard

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:18:03 -0600 (CST)
From: jeff
To: james@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: Re:

freddy just wrote in case you dont respond i understand you have to be
over his house and suck his little dick. dont forget to take your
tweezers and magnifying glass.

2 CORINTHIANS 5:17 THEREFORE IF ANY MAN BE
IN CHRIST,HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS
ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE
BECOME NEW.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:01:04 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

At 05:12 PM 3/17/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>try me you supid mother f*cking joke
>at least I went to school asshole.
>My God will take care of the likes of your depraved ass. and your stupid
>kid too.

I'm sure your God will lead you right into another gay bash so you can lose
your other leg.  My God has provided for my children and me with a superior
intellect and perfect bodies.  Suffer in truth gimp boy.

Frederick

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:06:07 -0500
From: Frederick <frederick@antichrist.net>
To: jeff
Subject: Re: Brilliant?

At 05:14 PM 3/17/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>i dont stomp ants i kick mother f*cking stupid retarded atheist ass and

You mean you hop...you can't stomp with one foot a$$hole.  Okay, beat down
boy, but before you hop on my a$$ with your wooden leg, be sure to wipe the
best part of your kids off it.  You big turkey hugger.  Go rub one out for
Jesus to some gay porn, loser gay-bash victim.

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:49:18 EST
To: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: re Goth with a problem

I just converted to Atheist from Christianity my father brought me to
Christ when I was young but then I finally realized there was no God. A
long time ago Catholics would kill you if you did not worship God. How
can the bible be true if it says not to murder and love your enemies? If
a car breaks down you can pray to God until you die and do Muslim magic
but your car will never get fixed without Science I am 12 years old and I
feel that I was the most intelligent person in my old Christian youth
group. The kids there only believed in the so called God because there
parents brain washed them. 90% percentage of the people at my old church
had a drug problem or was a sinner before they turned Christian. They are
just trying to find a way to escape from their guilt. I think the bible
is completely false. People that reject me for not believing in God and
give me cross signs with there fingers I just tell them this. Its my life
if you do not agree with me this is what I think is true and you have
proof to back it up. My problem is that my dad is a strong Christian and
I have to pretend I am around him. Fortunately I do not live with him
full time I don't want to argue with him or he will be tormenting me with
his Christian beliefs. Once I turned Antichrist my life has gotten better
I don't go to church with my Mom I don't read the bible and now I have
many hot gothic girls around me. Metal music is so much better than
Christian music. My name is Sean but I am refereed to as Daemon. I dress
in black every day. And has my last comment I would like to say Jesus was
beaten and didn't say a word right Satan would have escaped and killed
them all. Oh and Muslim cant be true because the Islam book was given to
Muhammad by an angel or it could have been a demon in disguise.
Sean


Editor's note: "Once I turned Antichrist my life has gotten better". This
               is the fundamental premise and purpose of this website!




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