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Re: Christ Is The LORD
Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:59:49 -0500
First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
http://www.Antichrist.net
denicius <dens_itkipb@real-address-removed.com>
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, denicius wrote:

> dear james, in Jesus Christ
>  
> hey, james, my name is denis, and i am come from indonesia. i saw your
> site and i am very sad of it. i am a christian, and believe that Jesus
> die to save my soul.

        The purpose of the christ meme is to make you believe that "jesus" died
for your soul, so that you will receive your reward in heaven, in exchange for
a lifetime of suffering on earth.  Nowhere does "jesus" condemn slavery in the
bible, if you can find _one_ count, I'd love to see it.  :o)  The purpose for
christianity was to cause the slaves of Rome to be more submissive, and
compliant (the two major things that christianity teaches).

> i do not believe in pokemons, harry potter, darwin's theory, freesex,
> homosexuality, bi, clonning, and other things that can degradated my
> faith in GOD (JESUS CHRIST).

        That's too bad, because you'll miss out on some of the things that make
living a human existence so special.  The existence you have without the
aforementioned is _indistinguishable_ from an animal.

> i do not have to be "smart" as u to know
> whether the GOD is exists or not.

        This is true, you don't have to be smart to believe in god, in fact,
stupidity is a prerequisite to "faith" (in ANY religion).  Conversely, you
simply MUST be intelligent to be atheist, there are no stupid atheists, just as
there are no christians of genius level IQ.  If those of genius believe in a
"god", their god(s) are abstract gods, and not defined by any religion.

> i just have to belief in HIM (JESUS
> CHRIST) whatever it takes, for i have seen that people who is "smart"
> usually becoming somone who doesn't believe in GOD (JESUS CHRIST),
> even until now. you know, lucifer is also "smart" as u, but smartter.

        The first sin was Science, eve experimented on her own, she ate of the
apple of knowledge.  Therefore KNOWLEDGE is the first sin.  Knowledge makes man
god-like, and Science allows us to become gods ourselves.  This is why the
religion was written to dissuade people from both knowledge AND Science. 
Pretty much all religions use this method of control upon their "flock".

> he was trying to "tricks" GOD (JESUS CHRIST), that he thought, he
> could defeat HIM (JESUS CHRIST), but he was f*ckin' sh*t wrong. u and
> your antichrist's team can not figure who is really GOD is, because
> you think you are smarter than GOD (JESUS CHRIST), like lucifer had
> tried before. u can not define what is GOD in your laboratory with
> your scients facts - human's thoughts!!!

        I have created life, I took basic protein strands and assembled a new
lifeform (called a GMO), a transgenic creature that contained genetics of both
the common norway rat, and the jellyfish.  This rat would glow BRIGHT GREEN!

        Since I have created life in my laboratory, I am now (a) god.  :o) 
Your bible says that only god can create life, ergo I am (a) god.  If you too
would like to become a god, just ask me how, I'll show you.  :o)

> it will make HIM "tiny" if u
> trying to find HIM (JESUS CHRIST) in that way !!!  HE IS SO MUCH
> BIGGER than your laboratory. Bigger than this universe and the 7th
> heaven. HE is the 777, the ultimate number of Creator and Lord. wow,
> i'm very proud of HIM, my saviour, in heaven and earth.

        You are clearly deluded and drunk on the christ meme thought virus.

> actually, i don't care about your website,

        Yes you do, otherwise you'd not have visited it, nor responded to me.

> but it takes me to concern
> that as a christian, i have to "wake u up"

        I _was_ "woken up" a long time ago, when I realized god(s) do not exist,
christ is a lie, and that Science is the only TRUE "religion" worthy of study.

        http://antichrist.net/james/dominion.gif 

> from your nightmares all
> this long, in believing in false truth (satan's mind/wisdom), and

        Actually, the greatest nightmare one can ever experience is ignorance,
the act of NOT KNOWING, and thus, being out of control, and vulnerable!

> encourages all other christian to have great faith in GOD (JESUS
> CHRIST), becuse the time is near for THE LORD (JESUS CHRIST) to come.
> everything is clear. this nature, cultures of humans in this world,
> people's habits, moral degradation existance, the union of the europe,
> the war, earthquake, mass destruction in environment, the pyramid
> signs, the efforts in human laws and morality to make abortion and
> homosexual legal have shown that the judgement day is very-very near.

        Homosexuality is a natural aberration, you see it not only in humans,
but in other animals as well.  Abortion (infanticide) is stupid, anyone who
performs such an act is effectively REMOVING THEMSELVES FROM THE GENE POOL, so
that when they die, every trace of their genetics dies with them.  Frankly,
that's stupid, but acceptable, for you see, Darwin's law is quite simple, and
clear in this matter.  Survival of the fittest.  Those who "eat their young", be
they man or animal, are selecting themselves out of the gene pool, effectively,
they are UNFIT TO SURVIVE!  Thus I encourage all those who are unfit to go
ahead and have abortions, all they want, human kind will be better for it,
because eventually the genetics which cause this behavior will be selected OUT!

> don't u realize ? in moses time, or i'd say in the Bible time (Old and
> New TESTAMENT), humans have ages quite long ? even more than 100 years
> ? abraham and moses, israel, and GOD's servants have ages almost 1000
> years ? even eve and her husband ? why people nowdays, their ages is
> very short ? because sin is in our body and souls. this sin (science
> and knowledge of this world) have destroy our mind, soul, and
> beliefness in GOD (JESUS CHRIST).

        Why is a long life important to you if you actually _beLIEve_ in the
"eternal life" that comes from "salvation"?  Why would you care if you live
another year, or ten years?  Why would you care if you are only going to live
another hour if you _truly_ believe your religious lies?  This statement by you
clearly shows that YOU DO value life, and YOU DO understand that THIS life is
the ONLY life you shall ever have, and when it ENDS, it ends for you FOREVER!

        Never forget that in your faith, aborted fetuses (infanticide) ascend
into heaven for they are without sin, thus they _never_ have to suffer here on
earth.  Those having abortons are DOING THEM A FAVOR!  Never forget the
defective logic in that statement, which is a biblical truism.

> Don't u realized, that the snake
> (the devil), which seduced eve and adam, was also tricks them by said
> that they would't die,

        But they didn't die.  God [supposedly] said "Gen.3:3 But of the fruit
of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not
eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."  But clearly god was a
liar, for adam and eve did NOT die.  ;o)  The christian bible was an
_extremely_ poorly written book (by today's standards).

        Why do you suppose that you believe the snake (serpent) is wicked?  It
is clear that from the biblical text that the snake was totally TRUTHFUL and
that in fact GOD was lying to adam and eve about dying.  Why is the fact that
the snake was telling the truth, completely overlooked?  The story clearly shows
that god _deceived_ adam and eve, at least until they ate of the apple.

> but had knowledge about anything and could
> become like a god ? don't you realized that the snake has also seduced
> you, too ?

        But the snake spoke the truth, unlike god.  The snake said "Gen 3:4 And
the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"  The computer you
used to see our website, and to write your email to me are products of Science,
they are "gifts from the snake" and you my friend are a hypocrite.

> as a great scientist (as u assumed yourself), in the first
> place, you should have known about it. but u were not.

        Great Scientists [such as myself] do not believe in gods because gods
are simply NOT REAL!  Further, Science has disproved all the claims made "by
god" in the bible, and proved that "god" is ignorant of how the universe works!

        http://antichrist.net/hubble.html

> this shown to me that you are great scientist in your own definition.
> your mind frame is not as great as you told/proclaimed us before. you
> are not a great scientist. and you are not like Newton and others
> scientist that was/is great. they were/are great because they belief
> in GOD (JESUS CHRIST).

        None of the 20th Century Scientists believed in god.  Further, Newton
was a homosexual, so there was no way _he_ could get into "your heaven".

        Einstein was far more intelligent than Newton, as is Hawking, and both
of these men were/are ATHEIST!  Were Newton able to study in a modern
university, I'm absolutely positive he too would be atheist as well.

> they were different from u, and u different to
> them. every person that's born into this world brings different
> purposes to human kinds : good purposes to lead people to GOD (JESUS
> CHRIST), as the good is always come from HIM (JESUS CHRIST) in
> different ways, and the bad is never come from HIM (JESUS CHRIST), but
> because sin. they, Newton and others, life in different time as u.

        If god doesn't make mistakes, and god made me, how is it that I am an
atheist?  Isn't it true that my being atheist is the will of god?  WHO are YOU
to question the will god?  ;o)  Either god intended me to be atheist, and to
dispell the christ myth, OR god is imperfect, and in my case, made a mistake.

        Or you can accept _my_ explanation, that god simply does not exist.

> but, u know something ? there is something incommon, that the lucifer
> (the worst devil-the master of failures) were there from the beginning
> of time of the world and is here too right now, still trying to
> confusing people about what you have "defined" as GOD, and trying to
> prove it.

        Lucifer was not there from the beginning, but rather was created by god
as a playmate, only he didn't want to be a sycophant to an arrogant warlord god.

        I'm only stating biblical "facts", satan of course does not exist, and
is merely a fictional character in an ancient book, as is god and jesus.

> the great scientist is someone which use science and knowledge to
> spread The God News.

        Anyone who spreads religion is doing mankind a GREAT disservice!  We
are at the apex, we are about to BECOME the god we imagined at the dawn of
human civilization, revel in that notion, don't hide from it in fear. 
Knowledge is the candle in the darkness (which is your life).  Scare away that
darkness with the light, with KNOWLEDGE!  Lucifer means "light bringer" or
enlightenment, become enlightened, STOP being afraid in the dark!  As Carl
Sagan said so many times, Science is that candle in the darkness, let Science
be your way out of all the fears you have in your DEMON HAUNTED WORLD!

> u have spent a lot of time in study about science
> to prove that there is no GOD, but you're failed to prove.

        No, YOU have failed to understand!

> That's a
> pitty. HE is outoff science. He can not be proven by human's science.

        The pity is that you shall die ignorant, and you shall waste your life
in ignorance, never fully experiencing the true wonder which we have in life.

> knowledge and every science stuffs you know and this world has, is a
> very small tiny-tiny knowledge. i am wondered ... have u ever prayed
> before to Jesus Christ ?

        Yes, when I was a child.  I found it ineffective.  I tried Science, and
found that the efficacy of Science approached that of 100% while the efficacy
of religion was indistinguishable from that of RANDOM CHANCE!

> has He ever done something bad to u ? or

        Gods don't exist, ergo gods have never helped nor harmed me.

> maybe you found that in evil everything is great ?

        Science works to remove "evil" from our society.  Modern agriculture
prevents starvation and death.  Modern medicine prolongs life, and enhances the
quality of the lives we have.  How can you say any of this is _wrong_?

> i am also wonder,
> do u have time to spent your life with your girlfriend or maybe your
> wive or friends ? or maybe you don't have time, because u think that
> your sciences are more important than everything else, such as love
> and affection for people, just like Jesus did ??? Hey man, get a life,
> please !!!

        Honestly, few women, even intelligent women, find me "compatible" with
them.  I spend more time alone than with a mate.  So far in my life, I've only
had a few relationships, the longest lasting just over three years.  For
whatever reason, women prefer dumb men, dumb, good looking, hunky men.

        The reason is fairly logical, women are driven by their genes (to a
greater extent than men) and they choose dumb hunky men as offspring produced
by such sires are more likely to survive.  Also, women hate to be wrong, or to
constantly feel inferior to their mate, thus either I "dim the lights" when I'm
with a woman, or I seriously risk losing her (at some point).

> also, in Jesus' time, when HE (and HIS Apostles, like John The Baptis,
> Matthew, and the other 10th Jesus' Apostles, not including Judas
> Iscariot, the "sh*tman")

        Sh*tman?  Judas should be herald as a SAINT, for unless he did what he
did, jesus would NOT have died for YOUR sins, and provide you with eternal life!

        Are you beginning to see the logical contradictions in the bible?  Had
judas NOT turned jesus in to the romans, YOU would not have salvation!  For you
to call the facilitator of your salvation a "sh*tman" clearly shows that you
are an inferior, illogical creature, more animal-like than god-like.

        I on the otherhand am _clearly_ god-like in every sense of the word!

> where here in this world, the miracles was
> happening everytime with them. why right now, people can not see
> miracles that come from CHRIST ?

        Miracles are indistinguishable from random chance.  Science on the
otherhand has an amazing track record, and a nearly 100% efficacy rate!

> again, it is because the sin that the
> evil has stayed on us. u know something ???  miracles is happening
> everyday in our lives.

        Like what?  Some christ puppets say childbirth is a miracle, but let me
remind you that even RATS have babies.  ;o)  There is no miracle at work,
because I can unite sperm and ovum in a test tube to "create" the "miracle".

> it doesn't have to like healing the blind
> people !!! it's too general, even the devil can do that ! but it is
> fake. the devil make lots of great miracles in this world. but, there
> is something that the devil can not do. that is : die in the calvary
> to save your soul and mine from sin and hell.

        And the man who made all that possible, Judas Iscariot, you refer to
him as "sh*tman".  Yes, you are a real piece of work aren't you bright boy.  ;o)

> Then HE rise, and stays
> in heaven, HIS Kingdom. He is the almighty conqueror of hell.

        Hell does not exist, heaven does not exist (we call it outer space).

> wow .....i bet the devil right now is knock down to this statement.
> hey, do u know evil that can do that ? if u know, give me a shoot in
> it !!!  it will be a very-very awesome-nice miracle for me, and all of
> us christian, if you turns your life to Jesus, and start to spread the
> Good News (Scriptures from The Great Bibel of Jesus Christ), and
> become GOD's Army.

        All you spread is ignorance and fear.  What I spread is hope,
UNDERSTANDING, and wonder.  Which of US (you or I) is the better?

> lots of love from me, and all of us christian.
> 
> denis

        You don't have my love, but you do have my pity.  You also have my
gratitude, because your treatise has backfired upon you, instead of encouraging
ignorance, people will read your words (and mine) and abandon beLIEf in gods.

        You have effectively aided an antichrist to destroy your religion.  :o)

> God has used me. God can and will use you. Do your part 'n let God do
> HIS part.

        God inspired me to create antichrist dot net to DESTROY the ignorance
spread by such doctrines (be it christianity, islam, or any other religion).

> I don't always get what I like, 
> so I try to like everything that I get" 

        I work to effect change, to more OFTEN get what I want [like].

> I'm a JESUS FREAK! and I will fly... flying high with HIM

        You are fully corrupted by the christ meme, that is true.

> You Try So Hard You Get It Wrong.
> You Can't Deny The Feelings That You Really Need JESUS CHRIST 

        I need KNOWLEDGE, I need UNDERSTANDING, I crave REPRODUCIBLE PROOF! 
When I don't get these things, I feel insecure, lost and alone.

> Love never fails. (1 Cor 13:8)

        Love is a mutation of the instinct to mate.  A kiss is a mutation of
the instinct to suck your mothers breast.  A hug is a mutation of the instinct
to f*ck.  Yeah, I just took the glamour out of emotional relationships.  Love
is a purely reptilian instinctive response, yet it is quite enjoyable, yes?

James - 1010011010



 
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Christ Is The LORD
Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
denicius <dens_itkipb@real-address-removed.com>
james@antichrist.net
dear james, in Jesus Christ 

hey, james, my name is denis, and i am come from indonesia. i saw your site and i am very sad of it. i am a christian, and believe that Jesus die to save my soul.

i do not believe in pokemons, harry potter, darwin's theory, freesex, homosexuality, bi, clonning, and other things that can degradated my faith in GOD (JESUS CHRIST). i do not have to be "smart" as u to know whether the GOD is exists or not. i just have to belief in HIM (JESUS CHRIST) whatever it takes, for i have seen that people who is "smart" usually becoming somone who doesn't believe in GOD (JESUS CHRIST), even until now. you know, lucifer is also "smart" as u, but smartter. he was trying to "tricks" GOD (JESUS CHRIST), that he thought, he could defeat HIM (JESUS CHRIST), but he was f*ckin' sh*t wrong. u and your antichrist's team can not figure who is really GOD is, because you think you are smarter than GOD (JESUS CHRIST), like lucifer had tried before. u can not define what is GOD in your laboratory with your scients facts - human's thoughts!!!  it will make HIM "tiny" if u  trying to find HIM (JESUS CHRIST) in that way !!!  HE IS SO MUCH BIGGER than your laboratory. Bigger than this universe and the 7th heaven. HE is the 777, the ultimate number of Creator and Lord. wow, i'm very proud of HIM, my saviour, in heaven and earth.

actually, i don't care about your website, but it takes me to concern that as a christian, i have to "wake u up" from your nightmares all this long, in believing in false truth (satan's mind/wisdom), and encourages all other christian to have great faith in GOD (JESUS CHRIST), becuse the time is near for THE LORD (JESUS CHRIST) to come. everything is clear. this nature, cultures of humans in this world, people's habits, moral degradation existance, the union of the europe, the war, earthquake, mass destruction in environment, the pyramid signs, the efforts in human laws and morality to make abortion and homosexual legal have shown that the judgement day is very-very near. 

don't u realize ? in moses time, or i'd say in the Bible time (Old and New TESTAMENT), humans have ages quite long ? even more than 100 years ? abraham and moses, israel, and GOD's servants have ages almost 1000 years ? even eve and her husband ? why people nowdays, their ages is very short ? because sin is in our body and souls. this sin (science and knowledge of this world) have destroy our mind, soul, and beliefness in GOD (JESUS CHRIST). Don't u realized, that the snake (the devil), which seduced eve and adam, was also tricks them by said that they would't die, but had knowledge about anything and could become like a god ? don't you realized that the snake has also seduced you, too ? as a great scientist (as u assumed yourself), in the first place, you should have known about it. but u were not. 

this shown to me that you are great scientist in your own definition. your mind frame is not as great as you told/proclaimed us before. you are not a great scientist. and you are not like Newton and others scientist that was/is great. they were/are great because they belief in GOD (JESUS CHRIST). they were different from u, and u different to them. every person that's born into this world brings different purposes to human kinds : good purposes to lead people to GOD (JESUS CHRIST), as the good is always come from HIM (JESUS CHRIST) in different ways, and the bad is never come from HIM (JESUS CHRIST), but because sin. they, Newton and others, life in different time as u. but, u know something ? there is something incommon, that the lucifer (the worst devil-the master of failures) were there from the beginning of time of the world and is here too right now, still trying to confusing people about what you have "defined" as GOD, and trying to prove it. 

But don't worry, HE, THE CREATOR (JESUS CHRIST), were there and is here too, from the beginning until the end of time (HE-JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- is alpha and omega, the first and the last, the remarkable Son of GOD). you still have the chance to chose he (the bad evil) or HE (JESUS CHRIST). great scientist is someone who is respect life, kindness, love, and The Creator (JESUS CHRIST) of this tiny universe. great scientist is someone who is know that him self was nothing to compare to Someone (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) who was created the Eden and this world we live in, in the first place. great scientis is someone who is learn science in order to know more about GOD (JESUS). the great scientist is someone which use science and knowledge to spread The God News. u have spent a lot of time in study about science to prove that there is no GOD, but you're failed to prove. That's a pitty. HE is outoff science. He can not be proven by human's science. knowledge and every science stuffs you know and this world has, is a very small tiny-tiny knowledge. i am wondered ... have u ever prayed before to Jesus Christ ? has He ever done something bad to u ? or maybe you found that in evil everything is great ? i am also wonder, do u have time to spent your life with your girlfriend or maybe your wive or friends ? or maybe you don't have time, because u think that your sciences are more important than everything else, such as love and affection for people, just like Jesus did ??? Hey man, get a life, please !!! 

also, in Jesus' time, when HE (and HIS Apostles, like John The Baptis, Matthew, and the other 10th Jesus' Apostles, not including Judas Iscariot, the "sh*tman") where here in this world, the miracles was happening everytime with them. why right now, people can not see miracles that come from CHRIST ? again, it is because the sin that the evil has stayed on us. u know something ???  miracles is happening everyday in our lives. it doesn't have to like healing the blind people !!! it's too general, even the devil can do that ! but it is fake. the devil make lots of great miracles in this world. but, there is something that the devil can not do. that is : die in the calvary to save your soul and mine from sin and hell. Then HE rise, and stays in heaven, HIS Kingdom. He is the almighty conqueror of hell. 

wow .....i bet the devil right now is knock down to this statement. hey, do u know evil that can do that ? if u know, give me a shoot in it !!!  it will be a very-very awesome-nice miracle for me, and all of us christian, if you turns your life to Jesus, and start to spread the Good News (Scriptures from The Great Bibel of Jesus Christ), and become GOD's Army. 

lots of love from me, and all of us christian.

denis

In times of difficulties, don't ever say "God, I have a big problem" ... 
but instead "Hey problem, I have a big God and everything will be all right"

God has used me. God can and will use you. Do your part 'n let God do HIS part.

"Christ has no body now on earth but yours, no hands but yours, no feet but yours,..."
St. Teresa of Avila 

"I don't need religion to show me how to live...just HIM"

"your failure is not a reason for GOD to stop loving you" 

We choose the colors to paint our lives.
Never let the brush of others paint yours.
Let your own colors shine brightly and be happy and proud about it.

I don't always get what I like, 
so I try to like everything that I get" 

I'm a JESUS FREAK! and I will fly... flying high with HIM

You Try So Hard You Get It Wrong.
You Can't Deny The Feelings That You Really Need JESUS CHRIST 

1 + 3 = 4 given. "Let every breath has to praise The Lord"

Every person has a different flavor ice cream and it's a matter of picking one that's right for you.

Love never fails. (1 Cor 13:8)



 
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denicius <dens_itkipb@real-address-removed.com>
>dear james, in Jesus Christ
 
>hey, james, my name is denis, and i am come from indonesia. i saw your site>and i
am very sad of it. i am a christian, and believe that Jesus die to save my>soul.
 
>i do not believe in pokemons, harry potter, darwin's theory, freesex,
>homosexuality, bi, clonning, and other things that can degradated my faith in 

How does Harry Potter degrade your faith in whatever it is you believe in?  Is it
because you see how foolish it is, how unreal, and then realize that what you
believe is that same kind of nonsense?  Furthermore, how does Darwin degrade your
faith in a god, unless of course you believe that literally the earth was made in
seven days (that were unmeasurable at the time because the earth apparently came
before the sun, according to literal biblical interpretation)?  Pokemons?  I guess
I'll leave that one alone.  Freesex?  What is that?  It all costs, even if you are
married.  Homosexuality, unless you ARE a homosexual how does what someone else does
affect your belief?  Bi?  I'm assuming you mean bisexuals, and again I pose the
immediately aforementioned question.  How does cloning affect your belief in god(s)?

>GOD (JESUS CHRIST). i do not have to be "smart" as u to know whether the>GOD is
exists or not. i just have to belief in HIM (JESUS CHRIST) whatever it>takes, for i
have seen that people who is "smart" usually becoming somone>who doesn't believe in
GOD (JESUS CHRIST), even until now. you know, lucifer>is also "smart" as u, but
smartter. he was trying to "tricks" GOD (JESUS>CHRIST), that he thought, he could
defeat HIM (JESUS CHRIST), but he was>f*ckin' sh*t wrong. u and your antichrist's
team can not figure who is really 

My dear, such language!  Well, you are right.  There is a reason that people with
high IQ's inevitable reject most religious teachings and dogma, even if they belive
in some kind of god-force (deism).  It's precisely because they are smart.  They
have read the bible on their own, as have I, and deemed it to be false like Harry
Potter, or have simply seen that the claims of supernatural occurences are usually
those of known charlatans!

>GOD is, because you think you are smarter than GOD (JESUS CHRIST), like>lucifer
had tried before. u can not define what is GOD in your laboratory with 

I don't think I'm "smarter than Jesus Christ."  I just don't thing he really
existed, simply put.

>your scients facts - human's thoughts!!!  it will make HIM "tiny" if u trying to
>find HIM (JESUS CHRIST) in that way !!!  HE IS SO MUCH BIGGER than your
>laboratory. Bigger than this universe and the 7th heaven. HE is the 777, the
>ultimate number of Creator and Lord. wow, i'm very proud of HIM, my saviour,>in
heaven and earth.

Yeah, well the 9-11 bomber coordinators are proud of the terrorists that carried it
out.  It doesn't make it right.

 
>actually, i don't care about your website, but it takes me to concern that as a
>christian, i have to "wake u up" from your nightmares all this long, in believing

First of all, I don't beLIEve in anything that is false.  I need ample evidence,
peer reviewed, to convince me of objective realities.  Unfortunately, your god(s)
don't fall into the category of something that can be objectively observed in that
manner.

 >in false truth (satan's mind/wisdom), and encourages all other christian to>have
great faith in GOD (JESUS CHRIST), becuse the time is near for THE LORD>(JESUS
CHRIST) to come. everything is clear. this nature, cultures of humans in>this
world, people's habits, moral degradation existance, the union of the>europe, the
war, earthquake, mass destruction in environment, the pyramid>signs, the efforts in
human laws and morality to make abortion and>homosexual legal have shown that the
judgement day is very-very near.

Whatever.  On a long enough timeline, the end of the earth will surely come.

 
>don't u realize ? in moses time, or i'd say in the Bible time (Old and New
>TESTAMENT), humans have ages quite long ? even more than 100 years ?>abraham and
moses, israel, and GOD's servants have ages almost 1000 years

Don't you realize that those are fairy tales?  Kind of like Santa Claus for adults?

 >? even eve and her husband ? why people nowdays, their ages is very short

We have no independent verification that a human as we know them has lived anywhere
close to that age.  The bible is a story, not a history book!

>because sin is in our body and souls. this sin (science and knowledge of this
>world) have destroy our mind, soul, and beliefness in GOD (JESUS CHRIST).>Don't u
realized, that the snake (the devil), which seduced eve and adam,>was also tricks
them by said that they would't die, but had knowledge about

Dont' you realize that they _didn't die_ as the serpent said they wouldn't, but the
became as god knowing right from wrong just like the serpent said.  Who was the real
liar here, that is assuming the story to be true in the first place, which it isn't.

 >anything and could become like a god ? don't you realized that the snake has>also
seduced you, too ? as a great scientist (as u assumed yourself), in the>first
place, you should have known about it. but u were not.
 
>this shown to me that you are great scientist in your own definition. your mind
>frame is not as great as you told/proclaimed us before. you are not a great
>scientist. and you are not like Newton and others scientist that was/is great.
>they were/are great because they belief in GOD (JESUS CHRIST). they were 

Newton actually got in trouble with the church for some of his writings.  Certainly
Galileo got into much trouble.  Einstein was raised a Jew, you fool, and he became
an atheist after all of his higher learning.  He never beLIEved in a Christ, ever!

>different from u, and u different to them. every person that's born into this
>world brings different purposes to human kinds : good purposes to lead>people to
GOD (JESUS CHRIST), as the good is always come from HIM (JESUS>CHRIST) in different
ways, and the bad is never come from HIM (JESUS 
>CHRIST), but because sin. they, Newton and others, life in different time as u.
>but, u know something ? there is something incommon, that the lucifer (the

Lucifer, was simply another lie worshipped in Rome and in competition with the
Christians for followers.  So, the Christians demonized Lucifer, just like they
demonize everyone today that doesn't do EXACTLY as they want them to.  Well, too
bad.  There's no rule that says that I or anyone else has to become a foolish
Christian bigot, believing in fairy tales.  I will not turn to your jesus EVER.  In
fact, if you will repeat after me, "Go f*ck the Holy Spirit!" then read Mark 3:29
you would see that neither of us could be saved.  Maybe you even reading it was
blasphemy enough to send you to burning hell forever hahaha.

>worst devil-the master of failures) were there from the beginning of time of>the
world and is here too right now, still trying to confusing people about 
>what you have "defined" as GOD, and trying to prove it.

No one is confused at all.  When I am feeling stressed out and need to find my inner
strength, I chant this precious little mantra, "F*ck the Holy Spirit," and breathe
deeply and controlled; then, all of a sudden things seem much better!

>But don't worry, HE, THE CREATOR (JESUS CHRIST), were there and is here>too, from
the beginning until the end of time (HE-JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- is>alpha and omega,
the first and the last, the remarkable Son of GOD). you still

No, the unremarkable figment of a Roman Aristocrats imagination is what jesus is.
He is NOTHING!  I cast him out in the name of Darwin!

>have the chance to chose he (the bad evil) or HE (JESUS CHRIST). great>scientist
is someone who is respect life, kindness, love, and The Creator>(JESUS CHRIST) of
this tiny universe. great scientist is someone who is know

Yep, the universe is soooo small, it's soooo small we can't see the end of it, yet.

>that him self was nothing to compare to Someone (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD)>who was
created the Eden and this world we live in, in the first place. great 
>scientis is someone who is learn science in order to know more about GOD

Good scientists learn a lot about god(s)!  The first thing we usually figure out is
that they are superstitious beliefs of the simple-minded.

>(JESUS). the great scientist is someone which use science and knowledge to>spread
The God News. u have spent a lot of time in study about science to>prove that there
is no GOD, but you're failed to prove. That's a pitty. HE is 

Then, he doesn't exist.  The supernatural doesn't exist.  Period.

>outoff science. He can not be proven by human's science. knowledge and>every
science stuffs you know and this world has, is a very small tiny-tiny>knowledge. i
am wondered ... have u ever prayed before to Jesus Christ ? has>He ever done
something bad to u ? or maybe you found that in evil everything>is great ? i am
also wonder, do u have time to spent your life with your>girlfriend or maybe your
wive or friends ? or maybe you don't have time, 

I have plenty of friends, and kids, too.  And at least they won't grow up with the
Christ-infection that many children are innoculated with here in the U.S.  Poor
kids, teaching them contradictory ideology right from the start.   My kids will not
be raised into your nonsense.  My daughter watches the science channel, public
television about science and history, and cartoons like every other kid.  She's only
nine and is learning rapidly about the world around her ever faster as I started to
at that age.  She knows your god and christ is a lie.  I can tell you should would
rather be reading Harry Potter than the bible, or swimming than being in church
kissing some pastor's butt all day.

>because u think that your sciences are more important than everything else,>such
as love and affection for people, just like Jesus did ??? Hey man, get a>life,
please !!!
 
I have one that I am content with right now.  I don't need stupid jesus or god.  I
could always use some more money, tho.  It's tough raising two kids.

>also, in Jesus' time, when HE (and HIS Apostles, like John The Baptis,>Matthew,
and the other 10th Jesus' Apostles, not including Judas Iscariot, the>"sh*tman")
where here in this world, the miracles was happening everytime

Those accounts were passed on by word of mouth at least eighty years, assuming them
to be redactions, before they were written down.  You should read, "The Passover
Plot."  It's a great book.

>with them. why right now, people can not see miracles that come from CHRIST 

There are no miracles.  There is no Christ.  There never was or will be.

>? again, it is because the sin that the evil has stayed on us. u know>something
???  miracles is happening everyday in our lives. it doesn't have to>like healing
the blind people !!! it's too general, even the devil can do that ! 

Doctors heal people, not Christians or Christ or Satan or any supernatural being or
powers.

>but it is fake. the devil make lots of great miracles in this world. but, there is
>something that the devil can not do. that is : die in the calvary to save your 

There is no soul.  There is no hell.  Would you grow up?

>soul and mine from sin and hell. Then HE rise, and stays in heaven, HIS>Kingdom.
He is the almighty conqueror of hell.

Wow, your parents and whoever helped raise you really mind-f*cked you!
 
>wow .....i bet the devil right now is knock down to this statement. hey, do u>know
evil that can do that ? if u know, give me a shoot in it !!! 
>it will be a very-very awesome-nice miracle for me, and all of us christian, if
>you turns your life to Jesus, and start to spread the Good News (Scriptures>from
The Great Bibel of Jesus Christ), and become GOD's Army.

I will not intentionally spread lies to people for you, and we will continue to
expose the christ-meme for what it is, a virulent infection.  It would be a miracle
if you were cured of it.
 
>lots of love from me, and all of us christian.

>denis

>In times of difficulties, don't ever say "God, I have a big problem" ...
>but instead "Hey problem, I have a big God and everything will be all right"

How about looking around figuring out what you could have done to prevent it and
learning not to do it again?  Or would that take too much responsibility?
 
>God has used me. God can and will use you. Do your part 'n let God do HIS>part.
 
No, people have used you.  People that probably don't even believe in christ trick
you into believing in it so that they can have power over you.

>"Christ has no body now on earth but yours, no hands but yours, no feet but
>yours,..."
>St. Teresa of Avila

In essence, she is correct.  My take on this is that she is saying stop sitting
aound doing nothing (id est, praying) and do something to help your fellow man or
woman.  If you think you are anything like Mother Theresa simply, because you
believe in Christ, you are sorely mistaken.  She was a model humanist and
philanthropist, religious beliefs aside.
 
>"I don't need religion to show me how to live...just HIM"
 
People who take acid report revelatory experiences, too.

>"your failure is not a reason for GOD to stop loving you"
 
Your failure will only hurt you in this life.  Stop fooling around and get with the
game plan.  God is in your imagination.

>We choose the colors to paint our lives.
>Never let the brush of others paint yours.
>Let your own colors shine brightly and be happy and proud about it.

I think we do that already.  Some of us here have had to shed the christ-meme
infection to do so.
 
>I don't always get what I like,
>so I try to like everything that I get"

I don't either, but I'm not about to sit around placidly like a kicked dog!  Go for
what you want.  If you work hard at it enough, you just might get it!
 
>I'm a JESUS FREAK! and I will fly... flying high with HIM

I know people that took "jesus blotter acid" and flew with him.
 
>You Try So Hard You Get It Wrong.
>You Can't Deny The Feelings That You Really Need JESUS CHRIST

That feeling, if it still exists in some of us is only a continuing symptom of prior
infection with the christ-meme.  Eventually it goes away, and the truth is what sets
you free.
 
>1 + 3 = 4 given. "Let every breath has to praise The Lord"
 
Which lord?  Jesus, Yahweh, or al-Lah?  Perhaps Odin?  The "virgin" Mary?  C'mon
now, you sound silly.

>Every person has a different flavor ice cream and it's a matter of picking one
>that's right for you.

We have done that already.  At least we don't bomb abortion clinics or the world
trade center.  There are but a few modern examples of how helpful religion has
become. 

>Love never fails. (1 Cor 13:8)

Tell that to divorce courts.

Frederick DCLXVI



 
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Re: I am a Christian
Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:37:41 -0500
First Apostle James <james@antichrist.net>
http://www.Antichrist.net
denicius <dens_itkipb@real-address-removed.com>
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, denicius wrote:
> dear james, frederick, and all atheist in Jesus Christ.

        Don't worry, it was forwarded out to everyone on our mailing list, you
will hear from some of them I'm sure (most notably, Fred).  :o)

> Christian is about a believe and fate in God (Jesus Christ), for He
> had died to save u and me. there's no meme in it.

        Let's just say, hypothetically, that your god does exist, and just over
two thousand years ago he did murder his own child to grant you salvation.  How
is human sacrifice (a bizarre practice that has taken form all over the world,
in too many forms to list) indicative of a "god" worthy of your worship? This
god of yours is supposedly omnipotent, he didn't need a payment [in blood] to
grant you "eternal salvation", all he had to do was give his OK.  The concept of
ritualistic killing, and the fact that christians carry around their necks a
reminder of the instrument of torture which was used back then (the cross)
sickens me.  What would YOU think if you saw a small electric chair hanging
from a chain around MY neck?  Think about that one for just one moment.

> you are the meme.

        You don't understand what a meme is.  Read the Meme Machine by Dr. Susan
Blackmore here.  http://antichrist.net/meme-machines.html  It should become
clear that christianity is indeed a meme.  http://www.christianitymeme.org/

> both of u said that you are smart, ok that's fine, that's your opinion

        The fact of our superior intelligence is emphatically NOT a matter of
anyones opinion, but unquestioned FACT.  I was tested BY MY PEERS and found to
have an extraordinarily high IQ.  My IQ based upon the Stanford-Binet test is
188, as well as 232 by the Cattell test (regarded as being more accurate for
those in the high genius category).  I am currently ranked as the 114th most
intelligent living person on earth!  Only a fool would take _those_ facts
lightly.  However, a prerequisite of christianity is of course, to BE a fool.

> about yourself. both of you tyring to get a confession from others to
> tell that both of u are smart, but u are not. as a scientists, i
> believe both of u have written essays that's been added in some
> journals or magazine, about something in your field of study of
> proffesion. could u mailed them to me, i' like to read it, to see what
> kind of scientists both of u.

        There are so many, over a wide variety of fields from bioengineering
(creating life, just as your god supposedly did) to electronics used in robotic
space exploration.  If you would be more specific please.  ;o)

> i want to see what kind of values you've
> had. not all scientist just like u. my lecturer is clever and smart,
> but he does not an atheist like u, infact he is a good christian.

        I've been working on developing adaptive technologies for the blind, to
allow them access to the Internet.  I have created text to speech engines, and
screen readers which operate under the Linux kernel, and are available free to
anyone with a need.  I do this _purely_ to help the blind, since they are by
far the most vastly ignored disabled group that I know of.  One of my close
friends was born blind, and that's how I came to discover their plight.

> people are different from animal and plants,

        Your DNA is 50% identical with that of the house fly!  Creatures as
vastly different from you as intestinal roundworms have genes whose DNA
sequence is so recognizably _similar_ to your own, it's as if they were both
just variant spellings of the SAME WORD!  Thanks to the Human Genome Project,
we can now say with absolute certainty that YOU my friend, are genetically
98.4% identical to a chimpanzee (1.6% difference) and 97.7% identical to a
gorilla (2.3% difference).  Further, your genetic code is 99.9% identical to
mine (whether you like it or not).  Thanks to a few single letter differences
in certain key genes (called single nucleotide polymorphism or SNP) you believe
in bullsh*t (gullible) and I do not (skeptical).  About 25% of all people are
born gullible with a need to believe, and thus they follow mostly one of the
three most popular gods, jesus, yahweh, or allah.  Another 25% are born
skeptical, and are naturally born atheist.  The Apostles and I share that
quality.  The other 50% can go either way, with a little persuasion.

        Humans are NOT special, but we ARE arrogant, and it is this arrogance
that causes man to create gods in HIS own image and proclaim their god and the
apple of their gods eye (man) to be the center of the whole universe.

   Linkname: Our place in the christian Universe.
        URL: http://antichrist.net/hubble.html

(Funny isn't it, that god created the earth so that 75% of it is covered in
water, and yet he did not create man with gills.  Further, he created the whole
vast universe [see link above] ONLY for man, yet man can never go there, because
he made man to require oxygen to breathe.  What a silly god.)

> because people have soul,

        Quantify that please.  The concept of a "soul" is about as vague and
unsubstantiated as the concept of ESP or the existence of ghosts.

> mine, heart, feelings, and hope. animal and plants don't have them.

        If you can't see it, and can't quantify it, how do you know they don't?

> or
> maybe you'd prefer to be like an animal ?

        I would prefer to be god-like, that's why I follow Science.  To follow
religion is to muck about in superstition, darkness, and fear (the stuff of
animals).  It's fairly clear to anyone reading this text that YOU are more
animal-like than god-like, and I am more god-like than animal.

> The creation of a human by
> God is very awesome, that He turn u (and me) from dust to a
> fleshed-mankind with blood in your vein.

        Nothing is perfect, nor efficient about our bodies or how we function.
Our bodily functions are no different from that of a mouse, we eat, we pee, we
sh*t, we have sex, and we bear live offspring, just like a mouse.  The major
difference between the mouse and man is that we have evolved intelligence, we
are the primate, the top of the intellectual evolutionary ladder.  The
advantage of intelligence is SURVIVAL, we can live everywhere, even in space!

        The disadvantage of course is the incessant need to know, which can be
satisfied (with great difficulty) through Science, or using the easy path,
religion.  Religion is to mankind what the pacifier is to a baby.

> you can not born human from
> dust, can u ?

        Dust is mostly silicates, and we are carbon based lifeforms.  Even
GODALMIGHTY can't create carbon based lifeforms from silicon.  ;o)

        However I _can_ take fractional proteins, and using the same
methodology that viruses use to reproduce, insert xenogenes into just about
anything I wish, to produce new transgenic lifeforms.  By creating new kinds of
life, I would say that elevates me to the level of god, wouldn't you?  ;o)

        Using the enhanced GFP (pBI-EGFP) cDNA vector, the chicken beta-actin
promoter, and the cytomegalovirus IE promoter/enhancer, I was able to produce a
transgenic rat, one which exhibited both the properties of a rat, and that of a
jelly fish.  Under excitation of a UV blacklight, this rat would glow bright
green (just like a rock band poster back in the 1970's).  Granted, this is not
creating life from scratch, but in 10 years, I'm sure we'll do that too.

        Now if you too want to "do the work of GODS", I can show you how.
Probably the best way to start out is as I did, using the EGFP (enhanced green
fluorescent protein) vector and signaling probe (EGFP is the red-shifted,
mammalian codon optimized variant of the natural GFP) available from clontech
(distributors of the "Living Colors" transgenes).  Buying your vector and
signaling probe from clontech assures the highest yield mammalian expression.
http://www.clontech.com/

> you're right that "human existance is so special",

        Human existence is irrelevant, we are a fluke in the universe, we have
no purpose, nor do we have any "god-ordained" special right to be here.

> because from the beginning we are very special, until evil had
> persuaded eve and adam (and u).

        If god is omnipotent, and created everything, logically then, god even
created evil.  If this is true, as it indeed MUST be true, then why can't _he_
do anything about it?  Why must "god" torment us the way a child with a
magnifying glass torments ants on an ant hill?  To see your god through MY eyes
is to see an evil sadistic fiend!  Luckily for me however, I do not beLIEve
that god(s) exist, as I have found OTHER, more PLAUSIBLE explanations for why
we must suffer in life, and to explain why we move against entropy. (entropy of
course is the actual _cause_ of all our suffering)

> the image of God that's been given to
> you (and all of us) then become destroyed, because God can not stayed
> in unholy place (body) of yours.

        Let's get back to that good versus evil thing.  If god created evil,
and evil is _clearly_ more powerful than god (able to as you say, command my
body and soul, yet god is powerless to stop this) then wouldn't evil be the
_true_ creator, and most logically, the creator of this "god" as well?  Perhaps
evil (call it satan if you will) created the universe, and then created a puppet
dictator (god/jesus) just to taunt you, just to make you jump, so he can LAUGH
at you!  ;o)  SATAN controls this puppet, and only I am wise enough to see it.

        Keep in mind the aforementioned is merely a logical exercise, presuming
of course certain things to be true (one of which, creationism, and arguing who
was responsible for same).  I've never seen anything to indicate the existence
of a creator, and vast amounts of evidence to suggest evolution, thus the above
logical foray is merely what it appears to be, mental masturbation.  :o)

        In your next letter, be sure to answer the following:
        1) God created _everything_ (true or false).
        2) God created evil. (true or false, see question #1).
        3) Why is evil more powerful than god?
                3a) If evil is NOT more powerful, why is god powerLESS to stop
                evil?
        4) Why do you worship a god powerless to stop evil?
        5) Why has evil been able to take control over me, but not god?
        6) If evil is more powerful than god, why don't you worship evil?

> your body have been broken. in the
> 1st place, God was given guidances of how to live in proper rules and
> obedience to Him. unfortunately, man, with his free willing, had
> chosen to broke that obedience and took the evil guidance rather than
> God's. you don't know what are the truths and falses, because you are
> counting in your demonic-evil god behind your sciences to lead your
> direction of life. you use your brain and your physical strength to
> life, that all of them were just a dust.

        The only rules I follow are _Scientific_ rules.  Unless something can be
proven with reliability, and results reproduced by anyone repeating an
experiment, I dismiss it as bunk.  God and religion is bunk!  You are obviously
a hypocrite since you clearly USE technology (and isn't use a form of worship)
and thus you worship Science, your enemy, the force of evil!

> to get to know God, we don't have to be "smart",

        This is true, even stupid people believe in spooks.  Conversely, it is
nearly impossible to get a wise man to believe in the unreal.

> but we must have
> fate, beliefs, and love,

        Faith is what gamblers have, it is random chance, you can win OR lose. 
I don't have faith, I don't gamble, rather I try to guide my way in a manner
consistent with survival and success.  The life expectancy for people like
myself is unsurprisingly rather long.  ;o)

> few things that your atheist-myth don't
> understand and don't have.

        Atheist myth?  ;o)  "By one count there are some 700 scientists with
respectable academic credentials (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life
scientists) who give credence to creation-science, the general theory that
complex life forms did not evolve but appeared abruptly." - Newsweek, June 29

> you read "smart" in my previous e-mail, as
> if me, or us Christian is a fool.

        You ARE all fools.  Silly, childish fools!  You believe in a god the
way a child believes in santa clause!  How could you say this is NOT foolish? 
You accept as truth, a control meme invented by the romans to placate their
slaves.  Are you familiar with the fable "The king has no clothes"?

> actually, you don't understand what
> i meant. your definitions of "smart" and "idiot" are different to me
> (and us Christian). you counted "smart" by numbers of values created
> by human, for that u know that human have lot's of "lacks".

        So tell me, _why_ do you worship your god, is it for the reward
promised you after you die, or do you not care about that?  If your god
promised hell to all, would you still worship him?  Why is it right to worship
this god of yours?  Do you do it for selfish reasons?

> so, from your reply, i found that argued with you will just end in
> nothing except wasting my time and energy, that i could have spent for
> another things.

        You will NEVER encourage me to become stupid.  I will die atheist, with
my eyes open wide, a bit pissed, but satisfied in knowing that I hold the truth
to this pointless existence on this rock called earth.

> but that's fine. u don't have love, hope, heart (to
> hear), eyes (to see), affection (to give), and mind (to think),
> because u don't believe in God.

        Love is a positive mutation (survival trait) which came from our
reptilian ancestry, the desire to breed.  Reptiles do not experience love, they
simply mate, lay their eggs and walk away.  If humans (or any mammal for that
matter) were to drop their young and walk away, they would be extinct, thus the
currently living mammals do NOT do that!

        Why would you believe that a Scientist, and Antichrist, and an Atheist
would be incapable of love?  Genuine love, I do feel, however I do not waste my
love on idiots.  I do not love you, in fact, you are about as precious to me as
a bucket full of cockroaches.  You are basically nothing more than worthless
biomatter, since you will NOT help mankind get to the stars (and mankind
effectively BECOMES GODS) then what good are you, really?

> that is something to fix. as a
> scientist, i believe you always trying to fine the real facts by your
> self in your laboratory. ok, but i challenge u. sent to me this :
> love, affection, hope, and faith to my place inside a box, written :
> "scientific proven" from "james laboratory", so that (as u always
> said) i can also get the facts of "your sciences" (i assumed clearly
> to my self, that your science is different with another.

        Love can be mimicked chemically using drugs such as MDMA or even
chocolate!  If love is nothing more than a chemical released in the brain, I
could conceivably put "love" in a box and mail it to you.  Love exists in our
society because without it, we would become extinct, the fact we are NOT
extinct is why we express love (and civility).  Reptiles do not experience
love, and do not raise families, or create civilizations.  MOST of the reptiles
that once inhabited this earth ARE EXTINCT for that reason!  If something
should happen to man (like what killed off the dinosaurs) we would all work
together so that at least some of us would survive!  That is _exactly_ how we
have survived extinction in the past, by cooperation (a HUMAN instinct).

        Oh, and where again did the bible mention dinosaurs?

> your science
> is bad science).

        But I bet you come crawling to it EVERY TIME you are sick, totally
abandoning your god, and allowing MY god (Science) to cure you, whereupon after
you're cured, you thank your own worthless god (random chance) for the cure.  I
suggest the next time you get sick, you instead go to church and pray for
healing.  Most people are hypocrites, they ABANDON THEIR GOD COMPLETELY WHEN
THEY FALL ILL, wallow in MY religion, which is Science, find a cure, then go
BACK to worshiping their worthless "god" once Science makes them well!

> i am sure, someone was already challenge u to do
> this, but have u succeed ?

        You want me to send you human dopamine?

> what ... ??? you haven't ??? because you
> don't have them or because your sciences did not working (although u
> have great tools of your sciences) ? ok, i am waiting, if u still
> behave like a mouroon.

        You assume too much, just because YOU don't understand something, does
not mean that someone _else_ (myself for example) also doesn't understand.

> i do values life, but in true manner.

        Then die now, get to your mansion of gold in heaven NOW!  Why wait? 
Aren't aborted babies there already?  What's keeping you holding on to this
[obviously] worthless temporary life of suffering here on earth?

> i believe that with this short
> life of mine, i must do everything right according to GOD's will.

        You sound like a radical muslim.  ;o)

> i don't care if i have to die in the next second,

        Christianity is also about the loss of the survival instinct.  :o/

> all i do care about is
> i must give HIM (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) the best of me, because HE
> already gave me the best of HIM in the 1st place : HIS LIFE.

        I still don't understand how a god would kill his own child, a blood
sacrifice, to encourage him to do something that he could have done WITHOUT
killing his own child.  Your god sounds a bit crazy to me!

> it is not
> hard to know what are exactly GOD (JESUS) want us (u and me) to do.
> open your "eyes", man... you do not know where to find HIS (JESUS
> CHRIST THE LORD) "will", do u ? well, read THE BIBLE, then you will
> find it.

        I read the bible, it's full of contradictions, violence, and sadistic
evil.  Everything vile about mankind is in there.  It's the _worst_ fictional
writing I have EVER read, period!  I don't recommend reading it.

> becoming an atheist is not smart, but foolish.

        It is true that I don't have the "false hope" that you have.  However I
have something far more valuable, THE REAL TRUTH!  Give me ugly truth over a
pretty lie ANY day!  Now that I realize this life is the only life I am ever
going to have, I work very hard to PRESERVE it well!

> it's just like thrown
> your self from the advance level to a level where you are considered
> has no values (or maybe i will use your term : inferior). u depend on
> your science.

        Advanced agriculture is a Science, and you depend on it to eat!  Without
Science, this world could not support a population of 6 billion.

> know what ??? everything that science has been made
> until now, there are nothing new. everything that this world has done
> and created, in the past is already exists, because God has been done
> it first. don't be too stupid to not understand what i mean !!!

        You are a mindless idiot, and it is indeed a waste of my time to write
to you.  All of the wonderful things we have today are MAN MADE, not GOD made.
The only thing attributed to god are the bioforms on this world, and rocks. 
Man takes rocks and oil, and makes computers.  Clearly man has achieved FAR
more than what has been attributed to gods!

> ok, you are a god (what kind of god are u ? god of science ? or god of
> foolishness ? that's a relief for u).

        Gods do not exist, however I am god-like, as I have created life by my
hands (and I don't mean by means of sexual reproduction).

> as u've become a god (as u told
> me), then a will "pretend" to pray to u : dear god (that has name :
> james), could u please make me a fish that is made from a cell of your
> blood ?

        Yes, I could, in fact, I could (as one recent Scientist has done) give
it special attributes (he made a fruit fly with human muscles).  :o)

        I could not of course do it with just one cell of human blood, I would
need a bit more raw materials, just as nature (e.g.; god) does (food).

> i want this fish have heart, obedience in me and faith, also
> love to me.

        You want a christian fish?  :o)  Blind subservience, obedience, and
servitude?  You want what the Romans made their slaves into?

> could u do that dear god (james) ? if u can't james, then
> let's finished this conversation because you have failed to acts as a
> god, as u have proclaimed before.

        How about a goat-spider that spins spider web from it's udder?  Those
exist RIGHT NOW!  Scientists have combined the genetics of the spider and the
goat.  They use the spider web to weave light but strong bullet proof vests for
the military.  Spider web is stronger and lighter than steel.

> what a pity. all this long you are
> talking rubbish. or maybe u can do this : please shown your self in a
> thousand places in a time and shake our hands, and talk together.

        I'll make this simple and to the point.  Your god supposedly can do
things like this.  Make your god appear before me.  If not, make him appear in
my mind to change my mind about Science and atheism.  As you say, if you can
not do this with your god, "you are talking rubbish".

> tell
> that you are a god, and u are right now are existed in a thousand
> places and you are willing to give them hopes about your sciences. you
> are also can die, something that is GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) do not
> have. you are mortal, GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) is immortal. what a
> creep u are.

        Nothing in this universe is immortal, one day the sun will die, even
the earth itself will one day die (being absorbed by the sun).  I am only a
creep to you because I don't suck up your pretty stories, I require cold hard
(and yes, ugly) truth!  Our being alive FLIES IN THE FACE of entropy, you MUST
understand that suffering is MANDATORY when you fight entropy as hard as living
organisms do!  Everything on earth eats something else, we live because we take
_DEATH_ into our mouths!  Again, we live by taking DEATH into our mouths!

> hey do you know the law of "conservacy of energy" ? this theory (that
> science has been proven), stated that energy can not be made (created)
> nor destroyed (turn it into nothing), so that mass and energy are
> quantitatively will always be constant.

        Not exactly true, once you move to nuclear physics the rules change. 
Matter cannot be created nor destroyed (Law of Conservation of Matter and
Energy).  In the fields of chemistry, and physics, this has remained true for
hundreds of years.  However recently my mom got a PET scan, and there is an
interesting property to a pet scanner (positron emission tomography).  If for
example, a high energy X-ray photon collides with the nucleus of an atom, it
disappears, and two particles, an electron and an antimatter-electron
(positron) appear in its place.  Here is an example of matter being produced
from NO matter.  The energy has remained the same, but electromagnetic energy
was converted into matter!  Once the positron (antimatter electron) collides
with a nearby electron (in say a water molecule) you get a matter/antimatter
disintegration, with guess what?  The release of a gamma photon.  So in
summation, your claim is true, in the past, but matter CAN be created AND
destroyed today (as has been going on in the stars and nova for billions of
years in the universe) and in hospitals with antimatter annihilations.  ;o)

> this theory is againts u, that
> u can create a new form of life that's different (as u told me), from
> one cell of x thing and one cell of y thing. in essence, you just make
> the "colours" of it different, but there's nothing new you've been
> made. what a phatetic u are.

        Diabetics used to die young, of complications from using pig or cow
insulin (a bad match for humans).  About 10 years ago, human insulin
instructions (DNA) were inserted into common sh*t-eating bacteria (E. Coli) and
this transgenic bacteria eats manure and excretes insulin as a waste product
(instead of mercaptan).  That's far more exciting, albeit not as glamorous as
what I did (making a green glowing rat).  Should you become diabetic, and
require humulin, be thankful Scientists like me are around to make life better
for worthless piles of animate biomatter like you.  :o)

> i see that you are one of "them" who encourage to have an abortion,
> homosexuality, freesex, and all other bad habits.

        I think all of the above are stupid, and or just disgusting.  However I
am also not arrogant (like you christians) in thinking that I am more
right-thinking than the next man, and I should choose FOR them.

        Everyone is free to choose their own bliss, whatever makes you happy,
so long as your happiness doesn't harm me in any way.  :o)

        Now regarding the matter of monogamy, without even knowing you, I am
confident that you feel a desire to have sex with almost every pretty girl you
see.  This is proof that humans are _supposed_ to be polygamous (just like the
other apes, chimpanzees, and so on).  Another proof of natural human polygamy
is the fact that venereal diseases even exist, had they not the means to
propagate, they would NOT have evolved!  RELIGIONS of course, promoted monogamy
as an early form of medicine (disease control) because they simply saw that
f*cking led to sexually transmitted disease, as soon as you began having
polymamous sex, you caught a disease.  Ergo, the early people decided to teach
monogamy, whereby if you stick to your beliefs you will NEVER get a disease.
That's simple logic, NOT the will of some god! Today we also teach to wash your
hands, where in the bible does it say to wash your hands?

> i am curious, did u
> tell your friends, son and daughter and your wive (if u have them),
> your mother and father, and your entire family, to practise all of it
> ??? if yes, no wonder why AIDS (and new diseases) becoming so popular
> nowdays.

        HIV was first detected from a haitian woman in Florida back in the
1960's.  Her disease was so puzzling, they froze her tissue samples in LN.
Later, in the 1980's they confirmed yes she was the first AIDS case.

        Disease has ALWAYS been with us, behavior may enhance the spread, but I
assure you, nature is right now finding other ways to propagate disease.

> because of your falses morality. look ..... !!! what u have
> done ??? a new world, huhh .. ??? you and your science, do not make
> this world getting better, but worst it to hell.

        In biblical times, life expectancy was short, in the time of Shakespeare,
people died by the age of 45 (Romeo and Juliet were 15 or 16)!  Today you can
be expected to live at least to see your 72nd year, nearly DOUBLE the natural
lifespan!  How can you say that life is hell today, compared to biblical times?
Leprosy (a biblical plague) was cured, with the invention of penicillin!

> instead of making bad
> things, why don't u repent yourself and prays for God (Jesus Christ
> The Lord) mercy ??? i am sure (totally sure), a 100% sure, that you
> will be forgiven.

        You now speak for god?  ;o)  Maybe I (more than anyone else) has pissed
god off so much, that forgiveness is now out of the question.  Maybe my global
anti-christianity campaign has made him "write me out of the book of life" with
no recourse?  Is not your god a VENGEFUL god?  Does he not (in the bible) smite
those who have transgressed him FAR less than I?

> as long science, medicine, attributes of man (such as materials,
> cloths, money, tv, magazine, computer, and all other stuffs),
> resources, etc, are used in correct path of used, that is according to
> God's (Jesus Christ The Lord) Obedience, then there will never be an
> atheist, or bad science.

        I just wish I knew you well enough to point at you and cry "hypocrite"
every time you use MY religion (Science) to cure your ills. Pray for pneumonia
to go away, and the patient dies (about 95% of the time) while if you administer
antibiotics, the converse is true, the patient gets well (about 95% of the
time).  :o)  That's why people abandon god and seek medicine (Science) when
they are _truly_ in need.  People everywhere know, SCIENCE WORKS!

> everything that's not stand as a "barrier" to
> the truth of God (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD), but encourage the spread of
> God (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) words, will never considered as an evil
> thing. otherwise, yes. you've been turn everything that's true (God's
> Words/The Bible) to a false of your sciences. but, once again, you
> don't know GOD's "will", do u ?  shame on u.

        The christian gods will is to make me into a compliant slave.  Show me
one place where jesus spoke _against_ slavery!  Show me where he told slaves to
turn against their masters!  Thanks to the bible (and christianity) slavery was
still going on in the mid 1800's and without the biblical admiration of
slavery, we might not be plagued today with negroes here in the USA (had we
NEVER brought them over here for use in slavery)!

> you said, that u don't believe in god. but you believe to the snake,
> and what it has done.

        The story is a lie, snakes can't talk, neither can donkeys.  I don't
believe in god, and I don't believe in genesis.

> well, that's another great pity for u. isn't
> sound silly !!! if u believe in the snake, then, you should have also
> believed there was and there is a GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD).

        There is no god, and no santa clause.  Snakes are not evil, they do not
talk, nor are they intelligent beyond that of "feed and mate".

> in your
> previous email to me, you insist that knowledge (and science) was the
> first sin. well, that's true. the knowledge has turn u into a demonic
> person, wether u like it or not.

        Knowledge is a double edged sword.  Ignorance of impending doom is
probably better than knowledge of it.  I look at my mom with cancer, and
because I am intelligent, I know I may one day be there too.  Ignorant people
simply don't know that bad things can happen to them.  Ignorance IS BLISS!

> see ... what a fool u are. if you
> believe that knowledge is the 1st sin, then you will admitt that there
> is GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD), because these terms of : hell, heaven,
> evil and sin, are the terms that are used to shown the existance of
> GOD and evil.

        Explain to me why god created evil, and why he can't control it. In
return, I'll explain to you about the 2nd law of thermodynamics (entropy) which
you know as "evil" and why _we_ can't control it.  :o)

> can't u see ??? you, yourself, have admitting that there
> is a GOD, called JESUS CHRIST THE LORD ?

        I was using it to draw an example you might understand.  At no time do
I ever believe gods are real.  I often (because you christians are too stupid to
realize it) disclaim my statements right after I make them.

        I was trying to show you that the bible teaches experimentation, and
knowledge to be FORBIDDEN (forbidden fruit).  The bible can't allow people to
become smart, and abandon the faith!  The whole purpose of christianity is to
create new slaves, and keep the ones you have!

        Everyone knows that education is the key to freedom, and IGNORANCE is
the key to enslavement.  THAT is what I was eluding to when I made the adam and
eve (knowledge is the first sin) comments.  Everyone knows that SMART slaves are
FREED slaves!  Even tho it is bad form to quote oneself, here is what I said
once; "A man is only able to judge the facts, based upon the information which
is available to him.  Give a man the complete and unbiased truth, he may still
follow the wrong path.  However, if you deliberately provide a man with only
seemingly plausible falsehoods, religious dogma founded merely upon centuries of
tradition; propaganda, and outright lies, you destroy his ability to reason.
Thus, he becomes something less than a man; he becomes a slave."

> just get a mirror when you
> are get anggry, then you will see an evil there. go to the an orphant
> house (there is a hope remains), go to the Church (Jesus' chruch), you
> will find miracles (extraordinary and always new), and all the good
> things (love and affections) that's been happened to your life.

        Again I ask, make your god either appear before me, or come to me in a
dream (if he's too weak to manifest in a physical form).  I also openly ask "the
powers of darkness" to make SATAN or some other demonic creature appear before
me (or come to me in a dream).  Prove to me devils or gods exist, nobody has
ever been able to do that, and the simple reason why is that GODS AND DEVILS DO
NOT EXIST PERIOD!  Unless you can prove the existence of gods or devils, I
shall continue to champion Science as my cause.

> it's
> GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) who have done all that to u. U see, GOD is
> everywhere in your life. just admitt it, okey ! come on... don't be
> shy !!! :-) turn your life and get the everlasting life in HIM (JESUS
> CHRIST THE LORD). HE is the greatest of all god and evil that ever
> existed and still exist.

        I don't want everlasting life!  I'm not greedy, just what I'll have in
the next few decades of my life will be plenty, thank you.

        To me having everlasting life would be a torture FAR WORSE than any
hell I can imagine.  At some point _all_ immortals would welcome death!

> in this life, everything is not all about money, food, or attributtes
> human have had, but there's something precious and essential to search
> : that is the wisdom of GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD). there is nothing
> wrong with the BIBLE (THE GREAT BOOK OF LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST THE
> LORD). it is 100% truth.

        The bible says the earth is flat, has four corners, and is held up on
pillars.  The bible is 100% FALSE!  Today we can orbit in space and see that
our world is a sphere, so the part about being able to see the whole world from
a mountain top (impossible on a sphere) is also bullsh*t!

> no need evidence from scientific fields to
> perform. just thing this : you are weak, you are a flesh and made from
> dusts,

        Dust is (as I said) mostly silicates.  We are not silicon based life,
but carbon based life.  We are made of diesel smoke.  ;o)

> you have a tiny mind,

        Speak for yourself.  ;o)

> you are hopeless,

        How presumptuous of you.  ;o)

> you sleep (another
> "something" that GOD-JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- doesn't do),

        I rarely sleep.  :o/

> you live not
> more than 60 to 100 years (if GOD -JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- let u), and
> u f*cked yourself on the toilet (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD -THE GOD-
> doesn't do that). JESUS CHRIST THE LORD never get tired. He is
> completely unknown, for His (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) mind ultimately
> above your mind (and me).

        Jesus is a fictitious character, he was invented about 66 years after
his purported death.  Jesus did not live in the flesh, he is a fictional
character in a book.  Another example of a famous character who never lived in
the flesh is Luke Skywalker.  Everyone knows who Luke is, yet we all realize
that Luke never lived, he is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER!  Just knowing who a
fictional character in a book IS, does not bring the character to actual life!

> oh yeah, there's onething left. judas iscariot was not a saint, and he
> was not the facilitator of the salvation that i (and all of Christian)
> have received.

        Uh, let's say he didn't turn in jesus, and jesus lived on, never being
crucified, became an old man, how would you have received salvation?

        The story is illogical and poorly written, you MUST agree!

> judas iscariot, from the beginning was inherited an
> evil mind (as u have), or used by evil (as u are),

        Again, how is it that evil is more powerful than god?  How is it that
evil can work me like a puppet, yet god is powerless to stop it?

> so he betrayed GOD
> (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) to the romans (as u do). GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE
> LORD) doesn't need anyone/someone to facilitator HIS purposes or
> plans. from the beginning of the fallen of eve and adam, GOD (JESUS
> CHRIST THE LORD) has planned to save this world from sin,

        By dying, on the cross.  Without the help of Judas, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN POSSIBLE!  Again, you should be THANKFUL to judas for helping!

> u and me, to
> get life in heaven. whether there was judas or not, GOD (JESUS CHRIST
> THE LORD) would and will still send HIS SON (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) to
> save u and me, in the calvary.

        Ok, let's say god was going to kill his child, a retroactive abortion
if you will, regardless of whether judas helped facilitate the killing or not. 
If it was going to happen anyway, why blame judas?  If by judas' action or
inaction the outcome was the same, why _hate_ judas?

> it's just because HIS (JESUS CHRIST THE
> LORD) love (John 3 : 16).
> 
> i still left this option to u : choose GOD (CHRIST THE LORD) and you
> will be saved, or choose evil, then you will die.

        We are ALL going to die anyway, our cells can only replicate so many
times, then the copies start going bad, we age, and die.  Everything dies, even
non-living things die, that's entropy, that's REALITY!

> i have warned u. so,
> don't tell me that you are not. both of u (james and Frederick, + all
> the atheist), i invite you to renew your faith and beliefs to GOD
> (JESUS CHRIST), and let the Holy Spirit of GOD (JESUS CHRIST) lead u
> to the everlasting life in heaven,

        So you basically have expressed to me that you believe in, and worship
jesus for SELFISH reasons (everlasting life).  How is this different from the
islamics who worship allah in exchange for 72 virgins and all the sex they can
stand for all eternity after death?

        That my friend is a meme, BOTH of those examples are memes!

> in the glory of bless' of THE
> FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT. may GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD)
> bless u and forgive everything wrong u have done. you will change, yes
> you will. if not today, then tomorow. i just know it. :-). u still
> have "a little" more time. use it to think this, ok. bye.

        I will die an atheist, be it tomorrow, or 40 years from now. Unless
something damages my brain and I drop a significant number of IQ points, I
shall never be sucked into the false promises of ANY religion.

James - 1010011010

Editor's Note:  I have sent this last reply to "Dens" (Denicius) several times, without any further response.  I would just love to hear his excuse as to why his god has never appeared before me (as I had asked of him to request of his god).  I now have to wonder, is his god omnipotent, or impotent?  Is his god broken?  He also never answered why "god" (who supposedly created everything) also created evil, and yet is now powerless to STOP evil (what we Scientists refer to as "entropy").  Perhaps he simply wants to walk away from this, and continue to wallow in self deceit, confident [at least in his own mind] of the "reality" of his god.



 
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I am a Christian
Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:34:15 -0700 (PDT)
denicius <dens_itkipb@real-address-removed.com>
james@antichrist.net
dear james, frederick, and all atheist in Jesus Christ.

Christian is about a believe and fate in God (Jesus Christ), for He had died to save u and me. there's no meme in it. you are the meme. both of u said that you are smart, ok that's fine, that's your opinion about yourself. both of you tyring to get a confession from others to tell that both of u are smart, but u are not. as a scientists, i believe both of u have written essays that's been added in some journals or magazine, about something in your field of study of proffesion. could u mailed them to me, i' like to read it, to see what kind of scientists both of u. i want to see what kind of values you've had. not all scientist just like u. my lecturer is clever and smart, but he does not an atheist like u, infact he is a good christian. 

people are different from animal and plants, because people have soul, mine, heart, feelings, and hope. animal and plants don't have them. or maybe you'd prefer to be like an animal ? The creation of a human by God is very awesome, that He turn u (and me) from dust to a fleshed-mankind with blood in your vein. you can not born human from dust, can u ? you're right that "human existance is so special", because from the beginning we are very special, until evil had persuaded eve and adam (and u). the image of God that's been given to you (and all of us) then become destroyed, because God can not stayed in unholy place (body) of yours. your body have been broken. in the 1st place, God was given guidances of how to live in proper rules and obedience to Him. unfortunately, man, with his free willing, had chosen to broke that obedience and took the evil guidance rather than God's. you don't know what are the truths and falses, because you are counting in your demonic-evil god behind your sciences to lead your direction of life. you use your brain and your physical strength to life, that all of them were just a dust. 

to get to know God, we don't have to be "smart", but we must have fate, beliefs, and love, few things that your atheist-myth don't understand and don't have. you read "smart" in my previous e-mail, as if me, or us Christian is a fool. actually, you don't understand what i meant. your definitions of "smart" and "idiot" are different to me (and us Christian). you counted "smart" by numbers of values created by human, for that u know that human have lot's of "lacks". 

so, from your reply, i found that argued with you will just end in nothing except wasting my time and energy, that i could have spent for another things. but that's fine. u don't have love, hope, heart (to hear), eyes (to see), affection (to give), and mind (to think), because u don't believe in God. that is something to fix. as a scientist, i believe you always trying to fine the real facts by your self in your laboratory. ok, but i challenge u. sent to me this : love, affection, hope, and faith to my place inside a box, written : "scientific proven" from "james laboratory", so that (as u always said) i can also get the facts of "your sciences" (i assumed clearly to my self, that your science is different with another. your science is bad science). i am sure, someone was already challenge u to do this, but have u succeed ? what ... ??? you haven't ??? because you don't have them or because your sciences did not working (although u have great tools of your sciences) ? ok, i am waiting, if u still behave like a mouroon. 

i do values life, but in true manner. i believe that with this short life of mine, i must do everything right according to GOD's will. i don't care if i have to die in the next second, all i do care about is i must give HIM (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) the best of me, because HE already gave me the best of HIM in the 1st place : HIS LIFE. it is not hard to know what are exactly GOD (JESUS) want us (u and me) to do. open your "eyes", man... you do not know where to find HIS (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) "will", do u ? well, read THE BIBLE, then you will find it. 

becoming an atheist is not smart, but foolish. it's just like thrown your self from the advance level to a level where you are considered has no values (or maybe i will use your term : inferior). u depend on your science. know what ??? everything that science has been made until now, there are nothing new. everything that this world has done and created, in the past is already exists, because God has been done it first. don't be too stupid to not understand what i mean !!! 

ok, you are a god (what kind of god are u ? god of science ? or god of foolishness ? that's a relief for u). as u've become a god (as u told me), then a will "pretend" to pray to u : dear god (that has name : james), could u please make me a fish that is made from a cell of your blood ? i want this fish have heart, obedience in me and faith, also love to me. could u do that dear god (james) ? if u can't james, then let's finished this conversation because you have failed to acts as a god, as u have proclaimed before. what a pity. all this long you are talking rubbish. or maybe u can do this : please shown your self in a thousand places in a time and shake our hands, and talk together. tell that you are a god, and u are right now are existed in a thousand places and you are willing to give them hopes about your sciences. you are also can die, something that is GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) do not have. you are mortal, GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) is immortal. what a creep u are.

hey do you know the law of "conservacy of energy" ? this theory (that science has been proven), stated that energy can not be made (created) nor destroyed (turn it into nothing), so that mass and energy are quantitatively will always be constant. this theory is againts u, that u can create a new form of life that's different (as u told me), from one cell of x thing and one cell of y thing. in essence, you just make the "colours" of it different, but there's nothing new you've been made. what a phatetic u are.

i see that you are one of "them" who encourage to have an abortion, homosexuality, freesex, and all other bad habits. i am curious, did u tell your friends, son and daughter and your wive (if u have them), your mother and father, and your entire family, to practise all of it ??? if yes, no wonder why AIDS (and new diseases) becoming so popular nowdays. because of your falses morality. look ..... !!! what u have done ??? a new world, huhh .. ??? you and your science, do not make this world getting better, but worst it to hell. instead of making bad things, why don't u repent yourself and prays for God (Jesus Christ The Lord) mercy ??? i am sure (totally sure), a 100% sure, that you will be forgiven. 

as long science, medicine, attributes of man (such as materials, cloths, money, tv, magazine, computer, and all other stuffs), resources, etc, are used in correct path of used, that is according to God's (Jesus Christ The Lord) Obedience, then there will never be an atheist, or bad science. everything that's not stand as a "barrier" to the truth of God (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD), but encourage the spread of God (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) words, will never considered as an evil thing. otherwise, yes. you've been turn everything that's true (God's Words/The Bible) to a false of your sciences. but, once again, you don't know GOD's "will", do u ?  shame on u. 

you said, that u don't believe in god. but you believe to the snake, and what it has done. well, that's another great pity for u. isn't sound silly !!! if u believe in the snake, then, you should have also believed there was and there is a GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD). in your previous email to me, you insist that knowledge (and science) was the first sin. well, that's true. the knowledge has turn u into a demonic person, wether u like it or not.  see ... what a fool u are. if you believe that knowledge is the 1st sin, then you will admitt that there is GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD), because these terms of : hell, heaven, evil and sin, are the terms that are used to shown the existance of GOD and evil. can't u see ??? you, yourself, have admitting that there is a GOD, called JESUS CHRIST THE LORD ? just get a mirror when you are get anggry, then you will see an evil there. go to the an orphant house (there is a hope remains), go to the Church (Jesus' chruch), you will find miracles (extraordinary and always new), and all the good things (love and affections) that's been happened to your life. it's GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) who have done all that to u. U see, GOD is everywhere in your life. just admitt it, okey ! come on... don't be shy !!! :-) turn your life and get the everlasting life in HIM (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD). HE is the greatest of all god and evil that ever existed and still exist.

in this life, everything is not all about money, food, or attributtes human have had, but there's something precious and essential to search : that is the wisdom of GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD). there is nothing wrong with the BIBLE (THE GREAT BOOK OF LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST THE LORD). it is 100% truth. no need evidence from scientific fields to perform. just thing this : you are weak, you are a flesh and made from dusts, you have a tiny mind, you are hopeless, you sleep (another "something" that GOD-JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- doesn't do), you live not more than 60 to 100 years (if GOD -JESUS CHRIST THE LORD- let u), and u f*cked yourself on the toilet (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD -THE GOD- doesn't do that). JESUS CHRIST THE LORD never get tired. He is completely unknown, for His (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) mind ultimately above your mind (and me). 

oh yeah, there's onething left. judas iscariot was not a saint, and he was not the facilitator of the salvation that i (and all of Christian) have received. judas iscariot, from the beginning was inherited an evil mind (as u have), or used by evil (as u are), so he betrayed GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) to the romans (as u do). GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) doesn't need anyone/someone to facilitator HIS purposes or plans. from the beginning of the fallen of eve and adam, GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) has planned to save this world from sin, u and me, to get life in heaven. whether there was judas or not, GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) would and will still send HIS SON (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) to save u and me, in the calvary. it's just because HIS (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) love (John 3 : 16).

i still left this option to u : choose GOD (CHRIST THE LORD) and you will be saved, or choose evil, then you will die. i have warned u. so, don't tell me that you are not. both of u (james and Frederick, + all the atheist), i invite you to renew your faith and beliefs to GOD (JESUS CHRIST), and let the Holy Spirit of GOD (JESUS CHRIST) lead u to the everlasting life in heaven, in the glory of bless' of THE FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT. may GOD (JESUS CHRIST THE LORD) bless u and forgive everything wrong u have done. you will change, yes you will. if not today, then tomorow. i just know it. :-). u still have "a little" more time. use it to think this, ok. bye.

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