On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 23:42, First Apostle James wrote:
> Robin wrote:
> > Hi James!
> > My name is Rob I'm 21, and I'm a philosophy student. First
> > of all, my english is not perfect, since I'm french Canadian, so If you'll
> > excuse me...
> Je parle Français, mais nous devrions continuer en Anglais parce que la
> plupart des visiteurs parlent seulement Anglais.
> > I would very much like to talk with you. I've read the "Ultimate answer to a
> > christian" last night, and I am happy to finally find someone who thinks
> > nearly the same way.
> Awesome! I know the _majority_ out there are like us, most keep it
> secretly to themselves, but the simple truth is, religion in the western world
> is in decline, while in the 3rd world, on the rise (islam).
> > Through religions, women are ALWAYS considered less than man, even
> > considered as demons!
Hey Rob, this is Frederick 4th Apostle, I really apprectiate the
positive emails to us. We need more people like you that are into the
philosophical areas of ethics when it comes to science. People who are
not shackled and prejudiced by superstitious (religious) beliefs. If
you have the time or inclination, please pick up the June 2003 issue of
Discover magazine and peruse the interview with James Watson in addition
to the cover story about genetic screening at birth. They are both very
relevant and modern topics in ethics. You could definitely do some
papers on this topic as a philosophy major. I'm interested to hear your
opinion, unbiased from a relgious standpoint on these matters.
> That's because most of the dominant religions were created by
> schizophrenic MEN. Religions like wicca were created by women, and have pretty
> much a reverse slant, favoring women, and demonizing men (somewhat).
> > To be honest with myself and to respect my humanity, I
> > did not have any other choice than to leave religion behind, and face the
> > world as it was.
> Congratulations! :o) Too bad the christ puppets who frequently write
> to me can't be more like you.
> > I find comfort in three things in life, these would be 1)The music 2) Love
> > and affection 3) Party(this includes marijuana and beer), in other words
> > Sex, Drugs and Rock'n'Roll. You talked about death metal music in another
> > text, I don't remember which one.
> I play keyboards and guitar, and I compose midis (like the one you hear
> on the main index page of the website). As for the things I find comfort in,
> I'd have to rank it thusly. 1=Science, 2=Art/Music, and 3=Love/Affection. I
> would rank drugs/alcohol in there too, but I find that those aren't really a
> comfort, but rather used as a substitute for #3, because when I have love, I
> have no need for drugs or alcohol. :o)
> > Something great happened to me then, and
> > it is death metal.
Yeah, man. I play guitar and know how to compose on different
instruments. I also write midi music as James does. I am actually back
in college again working towards a Bioinformatics degree myself. I used
to play out professionally in clubs as a teenager. We played metal,
too. The style was ahead of it's time as such...I would say it was kind
of like the music from that band Alas, headed by the guitarist Eric
Rutan from HateEternal and Morbid Angel. I met him at New England metal
fest by the way. He's a very cool guy. Anyhow, we could never seem to
find a singer that we were happy with, and often time other musicians we
played with would have a difficult time of memorizing the harmonies I
wrote. Eventually, I gave it up for writing with MIDI, as the computer
presents no mistakes or personality quirks.
> Deth Metal is my favorite music too, best if it's German Deth Metal
> gesungen auf Deutsch. :o) Have you ever listened to Rammstein?
> > Moreover, the philosophical sound of Opeth, which you
Opeth played at that Metal Fest show, too.
> > probably know. It is strange to say, but I can tell I had a kind of
> > enlightment. For three months now, I feel in harmony with this world. I am
> > free of hate, free of frustration against "GOD" or against the many things I
> > don't like in life, or in society. I have only one thing to give and it is
> > love, love, love. I see lots of desperate people, crying people, lonely
> > people, but it find it as magical.
> But do others welcome your love, or do they push you away, as they do
> to me? Tonight an old girlfriend called me, we'll say her name is DeAnna ;o)
> anyway, I got an offer to "get laid" tonight, but I turned it down, because she
> is engaged (and her fiancÃ© is away in the military, he's a reservist). The
I'm sure her hubby to be would be glad to hear this, too.
> thing I want most is love, but not at ANY cost. I wonder how many christ
> puppets could have said no to such an offer? If I post this photo I have of
> her wearing nothing but a red boa, I wonder how many could say no then? ;o)
> > I see death in another way. I do not fear it. I just don't want it to come
> > to me, though I sometimes almost call upon it, not on a suicidal way though.
> > I am fascinated with death. Is it really the conclusion of my existence?
> Every indication, yes. There is no indication, despite worldwide
> cultural traditions which claim an afterlife, that such exists. As for me, I
> do fear death, it's like this unpaid bill that is looming over me, the fact
> that I know it's coming annoys me no end. This is where the animals are lucky,
> for they do not know (as we do) that they will all one day die.
I completely concur with James on this one. There are some very strange
theories of the universe now that may offer some strange post-mortem
possibilities, however. It does suck looming over you all you life
since you were cognizant enough to realize it.
> > That I cannot answer, since I haven't met with death. Those who pretend to
> > have died and seeing bright light and associating this with heaven are
> > unfortunately ( for them ) wrong. Science has proved what it is, I could
> > explain it to you in french, but the english terminology has lost me there
My heart has stopped, and I've had a few close swipes...Only once did I
see anything weird, but I was still conscious and under the influence of
drugs as well. When my heart stopped, I don't remember anything, except
being really disoriented upon waking.
> I've explained it on the website, it's a form of hallucination.
Yep, that's what I think, too.
> > I greatly admire the human being for all he has done. He even created !GOD!
> Created god in the image of man, complete with mans flaws. :o)
> > ;) Humans are truly powerful but must remember that they are not OVER nature
> > but IN nature, and that if nature dies, the human dies. Now that sounds like
> > an ecologist! ;)
> We are but one piece in the interwoven tapestry which is life.
I'll see your comments and raise the stakes! We are nature's way of
being aware of itself!
> > Atheist doesn't make me feel empty anymore. Atheist makes me full. Full of
> > love, full of strenght, I can face anything and I will survive with this
> > great tool that is atheism, even the suicide of my best friend Philippe ( by
> > the way, the priest sent him to paradise even if he shot himself with a
> > stolen shotgun! ).
That's awful. A friend of mine named Glen hung himself. I was at the
service his parents had. He killed himself, because he was starting to
go crazy from schizophrenia supposedly according to the content of some
note. Anyhow, the fricken priest was saying he was in heaven, too.
Just saying what his parents wanted to hear. To be honest, I think his
step-father helped him to that permanent decision to kill himself. Who
am I to judge, though.
> Atheism doesn't give me strength, but rather understanding.
> Conversely, religion would make me weak, and give me confusion, so the best
> option as I see it, is atheism, but there are no comforting lies in atheism.
Religion can now give me a good laugh, too. Rather the people that
believe in it do. Sometimes they scare me, though.
> > I am opening my thoughts to you, because I really feel we are on the same
> > way. Tell me if I'm wrong! Now there is only one thing that bugs me on that
> > Antichrist.net thing. Isn't there a touch of sensationalism there? ;)
> If you read further, you'll see where I proclaim this site is a
> performance art project. An art project, with a purpose. :o)
> > Anyways, I would very much like to chat with you, on MSN maybe?
> I'm a Linux user, and will never touch anything microsoft. If you have
> IRC, you can use the IRC server located at irc.antichrist.net port 6667.
> > You've got
> > my email. Please answer me, I really want to hear about your way of
> > thinking. Oh, and I really enjoyed the way you answered the sophistical
> > Brandon: perfect and solid. By the way, did he answer you? I'm curious?
> Everything I got from him is posted to the site. Your letter was so
> open, and informative, I've posted it as well. :o) You're posted right below
> the SARS information table, right on the main index page.
> > Well, I'll be waiting for your answer, hoping for great future
> > conversations!
> We agree on so much, there's no room for any great debates, the longest
> running threads were my continuous retorts to the uneducated hillbilly Jeff.
> Usually it seems, letters from like-mined people such as yourself, are
> uninteresting (as this one basically is). :o)
Arguments are definitely more chaotic and spontaneous. However, I find
your emails interesting, James. Especially the things about race, and
other newer areas of scientific research. I hope you don't find my
emails boring! I know you don't. You wouldn't write back if you did.